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Can Christian rightly participate in non-violent civil disobedience?

Romans 13:1-7 [1] Let every soul be subject to higher authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those who have been ordained by God. [2] And so, whoever resists authority, resists what has been ordained by God. And those who resist are acquiring damnation for themselves. [3] For leaders are not a source of fear to those who work good, but to those who work evil. And would you prefer not to be afraid of authority? Then do what is good, and you shall have praise from them. [4] For he is a minister of God for you unto good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid. For it is not without reason that he carries a sword. For he is a minister of God; an avenger to execute wrath upon whomever does evil. [5] For this reason, it is necessary to be subject, not solely because of wrath, but also because of conscience. [6] Therefore, you must also offer tribute. For they are the ministers of God, serving him in this. [7] Therefore, render to all whatever is owed. Taxes, to whom taxes is due; revenue, to whom revenue is due; fear, to whom fear is due; honor, to whom honor is due.

Acts 5:17-42 [17] Then the high priest and all those who were with him, that is, the heretical sect of the Sadducees, rose up and were filled with jealousy. [18] And they laid hands on the Apostles, and they placed them in the common prison. [19] But in the night, an Angel of the Lord opened the doors of the prison and led them out, saying, [20] "Go and stand in the temple, speaking to the people all these words of life." [21] And when they had heard this, they entered the temple at first light, and they were teaching. Then the high priest, and those who were with him, approached, and they called together the council and all the elders of the sons of Israel. And they sent to the prison to have them brought. [22] But when the attendants had arrived, and, upon opening the prison, had not found them, they returned and reported to them, [23] saying: "We found the prison certainly locked up with all diligence, and the guards standing before the door. But upon opening it, we found no one within." [24] Then, when the magistrate of the temple and the chief priests heard these words, they were uncertain about them, as to what should happen. [25] But someone arrived and reported to them, "Behold, the men whom you placed in prison are in the temple, standing and teaching the people." [26] Then the magistrate, with the attendants, went and brought them without force. For they were afraid of the people, lest they be stoned. [27] And when they had brought them, they stood them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, [28] and said: "We strongly order you not to teach in this name. For behold, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and you wish to bring the blood of this man upon us." [29] But Peter and the Apostles responded by saying: "It is necessary to obey God, more so than men. [30] The God of our fathers has raised up Jesus, whom you put to death by hanging him on a tree. [31] It is he whom God has exalted at his right hand as Ruler and Savior, so as to offer repentance and the remission of sins to Israel. [32] And we are witnesses of these things, with the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to all who are obedient to him." [33] When they had heard these things, they were deeply wounded, and they were planning to put them to death. [34] But someone in the council, a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law honored by all the people, rose up and ordered the men to be put outside briefly. [35] And he said to them: "Men of Israel, you should be careful in your intentions about these men. [36] For before these days, Theudas stepped forward, asserting himself to be someone, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined with him. But he was killed, and all who believed in him were scattered, and they were reduced to nothing. [37] After this one, Judas the Galilean stepped forward, in the days of the enrollment, and he turned the people toward himself. But he also perished, and all of them, as many as had joined with him, were dispersed. [38] And now therefore, I say to you, withdraw from these men and leave them alone. For if this counsel or work is of men, it will be broken. [39] Yet truly, if it is of God, you will not be able to break it, and perhaps you might be found to have fought against God." And they agreed with him. [40] And calling in the Apostles, having beaten them, they warned them not to speak at all in the name of Jesus. And they dismissed them. [41] And indeed, they went forth from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were considered worthy to suffer insult on behalf of the name of Jesus. [42] And every day, in the temple and among the houses, they did not cease to teach and to evangelize Christ Jesus.
 

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I answered what you asked but Martin Luther King comes to mind. Protest is good as long as it doesnt turn into a mob
 

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Can Christian rightly participate in non-violent civil disobedience?


Are you referring to peaceful protests or to outright reject our land's (wherever we may live) laws?
 

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Yes of course. The Nazi's said that the father of Corrie ten Boom was disobedient to the laws of the country. He said I serve God and the queen.
 

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Are you referring to peaceful protests or to outright reject our land's (wherever we may live) laws?

Consider the two passages in the first post. One is about obedience to the legal authorities and the other about another kind of obedience.
 

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Consider the two passages in the first post. One is about obedience to the legal authorities and the other about another kind of obedience.

Yes the Germans weren't here legally. Still if a govt is really evil and makes evil laws you should not obey. Nebukadnesar, what if AC comes to power?
 

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Can Christian rightly participate in non-violent civil disobedience?

Romans 13:1-7 [1] Let every soul be subject to higher authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those who have been ordained by God. [2] And so, whoever resists authority, resists what has been ordained by God. And those who resist are acquiring damnation for themselves. [3] For leaders are not a source of fear to those who work good, but to those who work evil. And would you prefer not to be afraid of authority? Then do what is good, and you shall have praise from them. [4] For he is a minister of God for you unto good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid. For it is not without reason that he carries a sword. For he is a minister of God; an avenger to execute wrath upon whomever does evil. [5] For this reason, it is necessary to be subject, not solely because of wrath, but also because of conscience. [6] Therefore, you must also offer tribute. For they are the ministers of God, serving him in this. [7] Therefore, render to all whatever is owed. Taxes, to whom taxes is due; revenue, to whom revenue is due; fear, to whom fear is due; honor, to whom honor is due.

Acts 5:17-42 [17] Then the high priest and all those who were with him, that is, the heretical sect of the Sadducees, rose up and were filled with jealousy. [18] And they laid hands on the Apostles, and they placed them in the common prison. [19] But in the night, an Angel of the Lord opened the doors of the prison and led them out, saying, [20] "Go and stand in the temple, speaking to the people all these words of life." [21] And when they had heard this, they entered the temple at first light, and they were teaching. Then the high priest, and those who were with him, approached, and they called together the council and all the elders of the sons of Israel. And they sent to the prison to have them brought. [22] But when the attendants had arrived, and, upon opening the prison, had not found them, they returned and reported to them, [23] saying: "We found the prison certainly locked up with all diligence, and the guards standing before the door. But upon opening it, we found no one within." [24] Then, when the magistrate of the temple and the chief priests heard these words, they were uncertain about them, as to what should happen. [25] But someone arrived and reported to them, "Behold, the men whom you placed in prison are in the temple, standing and teaching the people." [26] Then the magistrate, with the attendants, went and brought them without force. For they were afraid of the people, lest they be stoned. [27] And when they had brought them, they stood them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, [28] and said: "We strongly order you not to teach in this name. For behold, you have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and you wish to bring the blood of this man upon us." [29] But Peter and the Apostles responded by saying: "It is necessary to obey God, more so than men. [30] The God of our fathers has raised up Jesus, whom you put to death by hanging him on a tree. [31] It is he whom God has exalted at his right hand as Ruler and Savior, so as to offer repentance and the remission of sins to Israel. [32] And we are witnesses of these things, with the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to all who are obedient to him." [33] When they had heard these things, they were deeply wounded, and they were planning to put them to death. [34] But someone in the council, a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law honored by all the people, rose up and ordered the men to be put outside briefly. [35] And he said to them: "Men of Israel, you should be careful in your intentions about these men. [36] For before these days, Theudas stepped forward, asserting himself to be someone, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined with him. But he was killed, and all who believed in him were scattered, and they were reduced to nothing. [37] After this one, Judas the Galilean stepped forward, in the days of the enrollment, and he turned the people toward himself. But he also perished, and all of them, as many as had joined with him, were dispersed. [38] And now therefore, I say to you, withdraw from these men and leave them alone. For if this counsel or work is of men, it will be broken. [39] Yet truly, if it is of God, you will not be able to break it, and perhaps you might be found to have fought against God." And they agreed with him. [40] And calling in the Apostles, having beaten them, they warned them not to speak at all in the name of Jesus. And they dismissed them. [41] And indeed, they went forth from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were considered worthy to suffer insult on behalf of the name of Jesus. [42] And every day, in the temple and among the houses, they did not cease to teach and to evangelize Christ Jesus.

The Romans 13 passage quoted is one of those by Saul/Paul that is a good example (to me at least) of a wholly human, rather than divine inspiration going on. To take it at face value (that is, without a whole lot of excuses and qualifiers) is basically a complete absurdity when applied to a number of different scenarios. Governments can and do make horrible laws and do horrible things to their own subjects as well as others of different lands. They lie and encourage war - and one has to wonder (if the passage is taken for it's most plain meaning) how God can be behind two different governments to get them to use their subjects to murder each other and both of those Governments be "ordained by God".

That being said - it is often good to obey the laws of the land - but not because a specific law *is inherently good*, or because "God ordained the law makers" - but because it fits in line with a moral law. In Australia, we drive on the left. There is nothing "good" or "correct" or moral about the side of the road we drive - but *it is good to obey this law* - because if you don't - you will not only be endangering yourself but also others on the road - so obeying the law is a matter of conscience - not because of a ruler(as Saul/Paul would argue) - but because it fits with "love thy neighbor as yourself".
 
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