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I just can't get behind the idea of Hillary being President. Bernie's ideal socialist workings weren't that much better, but I feel Hillary honestly has her reputation tainted, and it's not just for nothing. If she got in right after Bill, then it might have been different. But she's had over 10 years to govern how she acts and she gives off the impression she'll say anything for votes.
 

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I just can't get behind the idea of Hillary being President. Bernie's ideal socialist workings weren't that much better, but I feel Hillary honestly has her reputation tainted, and it's not just for nothing. If she got in right after Bill, then it might have been different. But she's had over 10 years to govern how she acts and she gives off the impression she'll say anything for votes.

Honestly I think Hillary represents just about everything that's wrong with politics. It's hard to conclude much other than that she regards herself as above the law and will lie and cheat to try and get out of trouble. Even the FBI director concluded that she lied over the email server issue. If you or I did half of what she did we'd be in jail.

Someone who still has so many unanswered questions (despite a seemingly relentless effort to stall and obfuscate before announcing that it's time to move on) really shouldn't be in the White House. But that said I can't say I have high hopes for the future with Trump there either. Choosing Trump over Hillary would be not entirely unlike choosing a broken leg over a heart attack.
 

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I reckon that the stuff about Hillary Clinton being a liar is mainly from republican propaganda sources. I doubt that Hillary Clinton is any more dishonest than other political candidates for office. She's possibly less dishonest than most of the folk making negative comments about her in the media and even on this message board. :p
 

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I reckon that the stuff about Hillary Clinton being a liar is mainly from republican propaganda sources. I doubt that Hillary Clinton is any more dishonest than other political candidates for office. She's possibly less dishonest than most of the folk making negative comments about her in the media and even on this message board. :p

From what I saw of the FBI director's summary it sounded to me like he was calling her a liar. I don't get a vote in the election so it's not like I need to dig particularly deeply but from what I did see it looked like it was pretty universal reporting that said the FBI director talked of anyone else doing similar things facing serious sanctions but that he didn't see prosecution as appropriate.

I realise people are less than entirely honest about political opponents but the unanswered questions about Hillary seem to keep coming and the answers don't seem to keep coming. I don't want to see President Trump either, I just really struggle to see how Hillary hasn't faced more serious charges.

Of course filtering out what is a serious issue from what is a non-issue endlessly dredged up by the Republican smear machine isn't always easy. It's quite remarkable to see the idea that following the FBI director's assessment opinions ended up split between "move on, nothing to see here" and seeking to charge her with perjury. I'd be interested to see if that one goes anywhere.
 

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I wanted to share an essay by one of America's greatest writers:

A Presidential Candidate by Mark Twain​

I have pretty much made up my mind to run for President. What the country wants is a candidate who cannot be injured by investigation of his past history, so that the enemies of the party will be unable to rake up anything against him that nobody ever heard of before. If you know the worst about a candidate, to begin with, every attempt to spring things on him will be checkmated. Now I am going to enter the field with an open record. I am going to own up in advance to all the wickedness I have done, and if any congressional committee is disposed to prowl around my biography in the hope of discovering any dark and deadly deed that I have secreted, why—let it prowl. In the first place, I admit that I treed a rheumatic grandfather of mine in the winter of 1850. He was old and inexpert in climbing trees, but with the heartless brutality that is characteristic of me I ran him out of the front door in his nightshirt at the point of a shotgun, and caused him to bowl up a maple tree, where he remained all night, while I emptied shot into his legs. I did this because he snored. I will do it again if I ever have another grandfather. I am as inhuman now as I was in 1850. I candidly acknowledge that I ran away at the battle of Gettysburg. My friends have tried to smooth over this fact by asserting that I did so for the purpose of imitating Washington, who went into the woods at Valley Forge for the purpose of saying his prayers. It was a miserable subterfuge. I struck out in a straight line for the Tropic of Cancer because I was scared. I wanted my country saved, but I preferred to have somebody else save it. I entertain that preference yet. If the bubble reputation can be obtained only at the cannon’s mouth, I am willing to go there for it, provided the cannon is empty. If it is loaded my immortal and inflexible purpose is to get over the fence and go home. My invariable practice in war has been to bring out of every fight two thirds more men than when I went in. This seems to me to be Napoleonic in its grandeur.

My financial views are of the most decided character, but they are not likely, perhaps, to increase my popularity with the advocates of inflation. I do not insist upon the special supremacy of rag money or hard money. The great fundamental principle of my life is to take any kind I can get.

The rumor that I buried a dead aunt under my grapevine was correct. The vine needed fertilizing, my aunt had to be buried, and I dedicated her to this high purpose. Does that unfit me for the Presidency? The Constitution of our country does not say so. No other citizen was ever considered unworthy of this office because he enriched his grapevines with his dead relatives. Why should I be selected as the first victim of an absurd prejudice?

I admit also that I am not a friend of the poor man. I regard the poor man, in his present condition, as so much wasted raw material. Cut up and properly canned, he might be made useful to fatten the natives of the cannibal islands and to improve our export trade with that region. I shall recommend legislation upon the subject in my first message. My campaign cry will be: “Desiccate the poor workingman; stuff him into sausages.”

These are about the worst parts of my record. On them I come before the country. If my country don’t want me, I will go back again. But I recommend myself as a safe man—a man who starts from the basis of total depravity and proposes to be fiendish to the last. [1879]
 

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It doesn't matter anyway, the voting polls are defaulted to Hillary just like they were for Obama.
 

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The hungry for power games continue ...

 

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Loose cannon! I think I prefer that actually LOL

Which one would terrorize the terrorists the most? It's gotta be Trump!

Good point. It would not be a loose cannon. Obama is a loose cannon. So is Hillary.

Trump will be a powerful cannon trained directly on terrorist cells and, of course, anyone who tries to continue refounding this nation against its true founding principles.

And that is what this country needs to get it back on track again.
 

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Good point. It would not be a loose cannon. Obama is a loose cannon. So is Hillary.

Trump will be a powerful cannon trained directly on terrorist cells and, of course, anyone who tries to continue refounding this nation against its true founding principles.

And that is what this country needs to get it back on track again.

The terrorists know what Hillary would do but Trump, I think he will put the fear into them! :)
 

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Are you electing a USA president or a boogy-person for terrorists?
 

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I think he would get a lot of people killed because of his tempernment and decision making.
 

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The terrorists know what Hillary would do but Trump, I think he will put the fear into them! :)

The thought of Trump in the White House should truly instill fear in everyone! :scared:
 

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Unless you are Putin, he is rooting for him. That man will never be elected president because I dont think there are that many people that are that addled
 

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Unless you are Putin, he is rooting for him. That man will never be elected president because I dont think there are that many people that are that addled

Hmmm...the members of CH excluded of course, I would put no real limit on the capacity of the American voter to be addled. :clock:
 

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lol well if he is I predcit we will be in a real war in six months, probably because of this temper or maybe calling some world leader a liar or crooked
 

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Hillary is pro Muslim. I don't want any more venturing into Muslim religous politics in our land. She will bring in Sharia Law and more Muslim immigrants.. yeeesh.. Can I vote for Ted Cruz or Gowdy?

i'm so glad it is not a choice i have to make :D
though i do find it interesting that its written that God raises up rulers according to the hearts of the nation ( as a whole though i think Europe out does america by for in terms of outright wickedness -obverse the image outside the eu Brussels is that of a woman riding on a beast. - observe the blatant satanism in the tunnel opening ceremony etc blah blah )
and america finds itself caught between a choice of Evil or eVil ... worse or worse depending on personal preference .. .. this is not an accident .. the lord is sovereign . he gives that which is asked for by a nation and it is not only the us .the whole world is being taken suddenly and quickly to the brink of no return politically and war looms as certain as the sun rises . and a third of the earth will be burned this time ..
 

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i'm so glad it is not a choice i have to make :D
though i do find it interesting that its written that God raises up rulers according to the hearts of the nation ( as a whole though i think Europe out does america by for in terms of outright wickedness -obverse the image outside the eu Brussels is that of a woman riding on a beast. - observe the blatant satanism in the tunnel opening ceremony etc blah blah )
and america finds itself caught between a choice of Evil or eVil ... worse or worse depending on personal preference .. .. this is not an accident .. the lord is sovereign . he gives that which is asked for by a nation and it is not only the us .the whole world is being taken suddenly and quickly to the brink of no return politically and war looms as certain as the sun rises . and a third of the earth will be burned this time ..
You are right and I have been saying for the last year or so that this nation is going down because of wickedness and murder and so much more. So es, I agree with you
 

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Unless you are Putin, he is rooting for him. That man will never be elected president because I dont think there are that many people that are that addled

lately .. stranger things have happened. i wonder though .. why is the us media not reporting putins declarations .. ? he has stated if america keeps putting iron done systems in Europe it ensures nuclear war , he says why is the american media not reporting this . that nuclear war is now closer then it has ever been (because the moment Russia feels its ability to strike back is threatened it will be forced into preemptive action -the iron dome defense systems being installed have the ability to change the balance of nuke power in the world , they wont sit by idly and let it happen . they are engineering a nuke war . those crazies want to diminish the population of the earth because that is their demented solution to life here . (warning conspirator alert lol -who are "they " all those in whom the spirit of antichrsit is at work )
 

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Why would Russia launch a preemptive nuclear strike if the USA deploys Iron Dome anti missile systems in Europe? I do not see the logic of nuking the USA knowing that doing so will very likely result in Russia being nuked in return. And what does this have to do with picking a USA candidate for whom to vote in the coming USA elections?
 
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