I have no premise whatsoever.
Since you had no premise, no point - when what was your point in noting a verse where Jesus is called a prophet and then you noting Jesus ergo is not God?
That doesn't mean GOD no matter how much you want it to.
Show me how each of the following prove that Jesus is not also God. Each of them
specifically speaking of
JESUS (born of Mary):
1 John 5:20
Romans 9:5
John 8:58
John 17:5
Hebrews 1:1-3 and Hebrews 1:10-12
Matthew 18:20
Hebrews 13:8
Matthew 18:20
Colossians 2:9
John 1:1-16 [1:1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] He was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life, and the life was the light of men. [5] The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. [6] There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. [7] He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. [8] He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light. [9] The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. [11] He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. [12] But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, [13] who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. [14] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. [15] (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) [16] For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. [17] For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. [18] No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.
John 8:58, "Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” Notice says, "I AM (I.... JESUS).... I WAS before Abraham. Not "The divine nature of me but not the human nature."
John 17:5, And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. Jesus says "that I -
JESUS - I had." NOT, "that just my divine nature but not human nature had"
Hebrews 1:1-3 and 10-12, Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,.... And, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.” And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”?
Note, God created the world through
Jesus;
Jesus is the "imprint" of God's nature,
Jesus upholds the universe,
Jesus made purifcation for sins,
Jesus is the same.... NO distinction of natures, NO "The Son did this, the Flesh did that..."
Matthew 18:20, For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.” Again, note that
JESUS is among us, not "The Second Person of the Trinity but not me." Jesus is the God/Man - both/and.
Romans 9:5. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. Note:
JESUS is over all.
Hebrews 13:8, Jesus Christ who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
JESUS is eternal....
John 20:19, "On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being locked where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.” Note: NO FLESH can walk through walls and doors.... GOD of course can. JESUS (the God/Man did), indicating that what Jesus can do by one nature also involves his other nature. This seems important for the Reformed insistence that Jesus' human nature is in heaven and CANNOT thus be here for this would violate the properties of his human nature. Well..... this violated the properties of his human nature.
Matthew 1:23, They shall call his name Immanuel which means God with us. Note: JESUS' very title here means "God WITH us." Yes, GOD can be in all places at all times, no one disputes that. But Jesus says HE - JESUS - who is also HUMAN is with us. Thus, as in above, properties of one nature can "communicate" or in some way involve the other, since Nicea stressed his two natures are INSEPARABLE.
Matthew 18:20 Where two or three are gathered together, there I am among them.
JESUS is omnipresent
Colossians 2:3 Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Titus 2:13, "Our great GOD and Savior Jesus Christ who gave himself for us"
JESUS is God. And He - God - gave himself for us on the Cross.
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory of the only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth (all referring to
JESUS)
Also see post # 6 where these things are explained
Thank you.
- Josiah
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