Can you be sinless for even one second?

[psalms 91]

so we agree

 

[TurtleHare]

so we agree

Lammchen wasn't proclaiming universalism and I wanted to point that out to you since you were hearing the message of the cross and confusing it.

 

[psalms 91]

nothing to confuse it comes across that way but that is because everyone is trying to seperate law and gospel, doesnt work

 

[Lamb]

sorry this is universal salvation and I dont accept that at all. we are not all automatically saved, we must accept salvation

No, I do not believe in universal salvation. Not all are saved as scripture states. Those who ARE saved are saved only by grace through faith. We don't save ourselves. But we sure can damn ourselves.

 

[psalms 91]

No, I do not believe in universal salvation. Not all are saved as scripture states. Those who ARE saved are saved only by grace through faith. We don't save ourselves. But we sure can damn ourselves.

This I agree with

 

[Alithis]

No, I do not believe in universal salvation. Not all are saved as scripture states. Those who ARE saved are saved only by grace through faith. We don't save ourselves. But we sure can damn ourselves.

how are they saved .. by hearing the gospel or by responding correctly to it ?

 

[Josiah]

"You did not choose me but I (Jesus) chose you."

"No one is capable of saying Jesus is Lord unless the Holy Spirit enables it"

"The free gift of faith in Christ Jesus"


SOLA Gratia - SOLUS Christus - SOLI Fide.... which means no room for self, it's SOLELY, ONLY, EXCLUSIVELY, TOTALLY GOD, alone: His unconditional love, His gift of the SAVIOR (not helper), His gift of faith. SOLI Deo Gloria (not self!).



SAINT John, writing to CHRISTIANS, states, "if ANYONE claims to be (present tense) sinless, he LIES (present tense) and deceives only himself."
SAINT Paul, writing to CHRISTIANS, states, "NO ONE is (present tense) righteous, no, not even one."




Pax Soli Christi




- Josiah

 

[Lamb]

"You did not choose me but I (Jesus) chose you."

"No one is capable of saying Jesus is Lord unless the Holy Spirit enables it"

"The free gift of faith in Christ Jesus"


SOLA Gratia - SOLUS Christus - SOLI Fide.... which means no room for self, it's SOLELY, ONLY, EXCLUSIVELY, TOTALLY GOD, alone: His unconditional love, His gift of the SAVIOR (not helper), His gift of faith. SOLI Deo Gloria (not self!).



SAINT John, writing to CHRISTIANS, states, "if ANYONE claims to be (present tense) sinless, he LIES (present tense) and deceives only himself."
SAINT Paul, writing to CHRISTIANS, states, "NO ONE is (present tense) righteous, no, not even one."




Pax Soli Christi




- Josiah

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.

There it is in purest form. All glory to God. Man should reconsider what he has falsely believed his role is and turn to the Savior.

 

[Alithis]

*Originally Posted byLämmchen*

No, I do not believe in universal salvation. Not all are saved as scripture states. Those who ARE saved are saved only by grace through faith. We don't save ourselves. But we sure can damn ourselves.

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how are they saved?..by hearing the gospel or by responding correctly to it.?

we can damn ourselves as you say ..how ? by disobedience

 

[visionary]

Why would anyone keep any sin, keep sinning, in the face of losing salvation? Knowing what lies ahead in a life with Yeshua, why keep dirty rages, when you can wear the white linen?

 

[Alithis]

Why would anyone keep any sin, keep sinning, in the face of losing salvation? Knowing what lies ahead in a life with Yeshua, why keep dirty rages, when you can wear the white linen?

because they love the things if this world and the pleasure of the flesh and are not willing to give it up.

 

[visionary]

because they love the things if this world and the pleasure of the flesh and are not willing to give it up.

Isn't that like making a choice ... in one hand... sin and all its devilish pleasures... in the other hand.... promises

 

[Alithis]

Isn't that like making a choice ... in one hand... sin and all its devilish pleasures... in the other hand.... promises

we know it is ..it is always a choice .. every day it is a choice every day and every moment we choose to crucify the flesh .. to die daily in order to abide in HIS life . we choose it because of the joy .. we obey for the joy set before us .

 

[Lamb]

Why would anyone keep any sin, keep sinning, in the face of losing salvation? Knowing what lies ahead in a life with Yeshua, why keep dirty rages, when you can wear the white linen?

I don't see any denomination inviting people to go out and sin. Do you?

 

[visionary]

I don't see any denomination inviting people to go out and sin. Do you?

Do the TEN check and see for yourself.... How about coming in and being the pastor while committing sexual sins of all kinds?

 

[psalms 91]

Many condone sin and even allow pastors to serve the pulpit while calling sin ok, it is not sin

 

[TurtleHare]

Why would anyone keep any sin, keep sinning, in the face of losing salvation? Knowing what lies ahead in a life with Yeshua, why keep dirty rages, when you can wear the white linen?

Yep, got that in my baptism those white robes and thanks for the reminder on that because there is an interesting tidbit about how Jewish fathers would provide the white robes to the guests attending the wedding so I really like to see how God provides for us.

 

[Alithis]

Yep, got that in my baptism those white robes and thanks for the reminder on that because there is an interesting tidbit about how Jewish fathers would provide the white robes to the guests attending the wedding so I really like to see how God provides for us.

and having been clothed .. do we then go out and purposely willfully get those robes filthy or do we gratefully live as one worthy of wearing them ..? the scripture say that w are to now walk worthy ..

 

[Lamb]

Do the TEN check and see for yourself.... How about coming in and being the pastor while committing sexual sins of all kinds?

Which pastors encourage sin?

 

[Alithis]

Which pastors encourage sin?

should we continue to practice sin.. when we know the action is sin?
or should we cease doing it?also called repentance.

if you say "we cant cease doing it" then you support and encourage people to keep sinning and in contrast to the word of God which states we are to repent.turn from sin, change our minds ,go the other way serve god not flesh.etc And he gives us the Power to do so.
he also never asks anything of us he doesnt enable us to do.
he also NEVER allows us to be tempted above our ability to resist.
thus those who say you cant cease from practicing sin are denying the power of God and encouraging people to continue in the practice of sin.

what denomination does this..?well if what your saying is what the lutherans teach..then there is one for a start.