Can one be sinless for any amount of time in this life?

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Some here advocate theologies which appear to deny that sinlessness can exist in any human being for any measurable amount of time. Do you believe that way too?
 

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i BELIEVE WHAT THE WORD SAYS THAT WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND THAT WE NEED TO ASK FORGIVENESS DAILY
 

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I believe Yeshua when He said "go and sin no more" like it is possible. There is a difference between believing it, and living it, and with God help it can be done. I also believe it will be done, because Thy Will says so. As it is in Heaven so also will it be on earth. It will be God's proof to Satan who declares sinful creatures can not live sinless lives. Therefore all sinners are his. God's said that with forgiveness, empowered by the Holy Spirit indwelling, they will go on to live sinless by the blood of the Lamb. Who do we believe? Are we trusting God to make it so in us?
 

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I believe that by His blood I can be sinless but as a man in a fleshly body I still sin and still need forgiveness
 

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Whatever amount of time in which you are PERFECT just as and to the same extent that God is..... HOLY just as and to the same extent that God is..... LOVING exactly as Christ loved on the Cross...... DOING everything God has command of us (such as those 613 laws in the NT, such as the Great Commandment and Great Commission in the NT)..... obeying perfectly 24/7..... NOTHING Being left undone..... EVERYTHING being done...... with no need for God or Christ or the Cross or a Savior. How often is THAT true for you?

If you could list for us 10 living Catholics who sin no more? Give their full names and something that says they are now all perfect, holy and loving like God..... NEVER falling short..... NEVER missing the mark...... with nothing to be forgiven for, no need for any God or Savior or Gospel or mercy cuz they no longer have anything to be merciful toward, nothing to be forgiven, nothing for the Gospel to be applied to. Not in their being, nature, attitude..... thoughts, words or deeds..... done or left undone. Just ten out of the over 1 billion the RC Denomination claims are Catholics. You may claim it's POSSIBLE but if it never happens..... well...... Document it for just 10. And of course, in the process, show how much better those 10 are than St. Paul who called himself the CHIEF of sinners..... and show how John was wrong when he wrote to Christians (but maybe not Catholics), 'if anyone claims to be without sin, he is a lair and deceives only himself" (maybe you think he was writing to Lutherans and not Catholics).




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Whatever amount of time in which you are PERFECT just as and to the same extent that God is..... HOLY just as and to the same extent that God is..... LOVING exactly as Christ loved on the Cross...... DOING everything God has command of us (such as those 613 laws in the NT, such as the Great Commandment and Great Commission in the NT)..... obeying perfectly 24/7..... NOTHING Being left undone..... EVERYTHING being done......
I was with you until
with no need for God or Christ or the Cross or a Savior. How often is THAT true for you?
and then it all fell apart because none of it can be done without God.
If you could list for us 10 living Catholics who sin no more? Give their full names and something that says they are now all perfect, holy and loving like God..... NEVER falling short..... NEVER missing the mark...... with nothing to be forgiven for, no need for any God or Savior or Gospel or mercy cuz they no longer have anything to be merciful toward, nothing to be forgiven, nothing for the Gospel to be applied to. Not in their being, nature, attitude..... thoughts, words or deeds..... done or left undone. Just ten out of the over 1 billion the RC Denomination claims are Catholics. You may claim it's POSSIBLE but if it never happens..... well...... Document it for just 10. And of course, in the process, show how much better those 10 are than St. Paul who called himself the CHIEF of sinners..... and show how John was wrong when he wrote to Christians (but maybe not Catholics), 'if anyone claims to be without sin, he is a lair and deceives only himself" (maybe you think he was writing to Lutherans and not Catholics).
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I think you can put us all in this boat... we can not claim to be without sin, because if we do, then we are deceiving ourselves.
 

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Right from the very beginning, God had an established kingdom with Laws and that was before He even created earth. The condition of eternal life is now just what it always has been obedience to His Laws. Just like it was in the Garden of Eden before the fall. It is perfect obedience to the law of God, perfect righteousness which Yeshua showed can be done.

Not as man sees it but as God intended it. If eternal life were granted on any condition short of this, then the happiness of the whole universe would be imperiled. The way would be open for sin, with all its train of woe and misery, to be immortalized. And that is not going to happen. It all stands or God is wrong. And God is not wrong. Therefore the Laws of God are sacred and will last for all eternity.

Yeshua does not lessen the claims of the law but told the lawyer that if he wanted eternal life, he must keep the commandments. In unmistakable language He presents obedience to it as the condition of eternal life, the same condition required of Adam before his fall. The requirement under the covenant of grace is just as broad as the requirement made in Eden; it must be in harmony with God’s law, which is holy, just, and good. The standard of character presented in the Old Testament is the same that is presented in the New Testament. This standard is not one to which you cannot attain. In every command or injunction that God gives there is a promise, the most positive underlying each command. God has made provision that you may become like unto Him and He will accomplish this for all who do.
The sacred law of God will maintain its exalted character as long as the throne of God stands. This sacred law is the expression of God’s character. Types and shadows, especially the offerings and sacrifices section written on parchment, are found in Yeshua's death on the cross; but God’s law was not crucified with Yeshua. The Law of the Ten Commandments lives throughout all eternal ages. God did not make the infinite sacrifice of giving His only-begotten Son to our world, to secure for man the privilege of breaking the commandments of God in this life or in the future eternal life.

The cross speaks to the hosts of heaven, to worlds unfallen, and to the fallen world, the value which God has placed upon men, and of His great love wherewith He has loved you. It also testifies to the world, to angels, and to men, the immutability of the divine law. The death of God’s only begotten Son upon the cross in the sinner’s behalf is the unanswerable argument as to the changeless character of the sacredness and holiness of the Law of God.
 

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I believe that by His blood I can be sinless but as a man in a fleshly body I still sin and still need forgiveness

but that would amount to unbelief ..asking god to forgive a sin he has already forgiven calls god a liar ..
it also would be to deny what Christ has done .. made yuu a new creation.. is Paul telling fibs when he writes these revelations to the church ?

and the only reason one would need to ask again is if one kept doing it . but that would make you unrepentant . this is why so many people struggle under condemnation.. they dont read what the scriptures say god has already done and they dont believe what the scriptures say god has already done . so they live as though he has not accomplished anything and they remain slaves to sin . the good news is .. YOU DONT HAVE TO .
 

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Right from the very beginning, God had an established kingdom with Laws and that was before He even created earth. The condition of eternal life is now just what it always has been obedience to His Laws. Just like it was in the Garden of Eden before the fall. It is perfect obedience to the law of God, perfect righteousness which Yeshua showed can be done.

Not as man sees it but as God intended it. If eternal life were granted on any condition short of this, then the happiness of the whole universe would be imperiled. The way would be open for sin, with all its train of woe and misery, to be immortalized. And that is not going to happen. It all stands or God is wrong. And God is not wrong. Therefore the Laws of God are sacred and will last for all eternity.

Yeshua does not lessen the claims of the law but told the lawyer that if he wanted eternal life, he must keep the commandments. In unmistakable language He presents obedience to it as the condition of eternal life, the same condition required of Adam before his fall. The requirement under the covenant of grace is just as broad as the requirement made in Eden; it must be in harmony with God’s law, which is holy, just, and good. The standard of character presented in the Old Testament is the same that is presented in the New Testament. This standard is not one to which you cannot attain. In every command or injunction that God gives there is a promise, the most positive underlying each command. God has made provision that you may become like unto Him and He will accomplish this for all who do.
The sacred law of God will maintain its exalted character as long as the throne of God stands. This sacred law is the expression of God’s character. Types and shadows, especially the offerings and sacrifices section written on parchment, are found in Yeshua's death on the cross; but God’s law was not crucified with Yeshua. The Law of the Ten Commandments lives throughout all eternal ages. God did not make the infinite sacrifice of giving His only-begotten Son to our world, to secure for man the privilege of breaking the commandments of God in this life or in the future eternal life.

The cross speaks to the hosts of heaven, to worlds unfallen, and to the fallen world, the value which God has placed upon men, and of His great love wherewith He has loved you. It also testifies to the world, to angels, and to men, the immutability of the divine law. The death of God’s only begotten Son upon the cross in the sinner’s behalf is the unanswerable argument as to the changeless character of the sacredness and holiness of the Law of God.

i think folks are sadly confused .. we are free from the law they say...
what does the word of god actually say though ?

it says we are free from....??? it states ,a very particular LAW .
NOT the law of life
NOT the law of love
NOT the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus.. - we are not freed from those laws .

we are free from the law of .. "sin and death "

that law of gravity says drop a ball it falls down

the law of sin and death says sin .. results in death

sin is removed, death cant result .. we are freed from THAT law . not any other .
 
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i think folks are sadly confused .. we are free from the law they say...
what does the word of god actually say though ?

it says we are free from....??? it states ,a very particular LAW .
NOT the law of life
NOT the law of love
NOT the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus.. - we are not freed from those laws .

we are free from the law of .. "sin and death "

that law of gravity says drop a ball it falls down

the law of sin and death says sin .. results in death

sin is removed, death cant result .. we are freed from THAT law . not any other .
So here you are and must go back to the Bible for answers. Howbeit You will speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nothing: But you speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto your glory. Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit.
 
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