Some thoughts on guns in the USA ...

[psalms 91]

You say "one instance" are you sure it is alone?

But the word of the Lord came to me, saying: "You have shed much blood, and you have battled in many wars. You are not able to build a house to my name, so great was the shedding of blood before me. (1 Chronicles 22:8)
Jehovah examines the upright and the wicked, the lover of violence he detests. (Psalms 11:5)

And yet David was loved abnd blessed beyond imagination and his son was allowed to build what David planned.

 

[MoreCoffee]

And yet David was loved abnd blessed beyond imagination and his son was allowed to build what David planned.

Yes, Solomon did build the temple and he was not a warrior. Killing others is not pleasing to Jehovah.

 

[psalms 91]

Many of the wars David fought were presided over by God all through the Old we see this so dont tell me that God is against war

 

[Alithis]

MoreCoffee does not oppose any part of the holy scriptures.

haha not here in this thread mr gregs

 

[Alithis]

I agree He is able and sometimes He tells us to use the tools presented

yes sometimes he says ..turn the car around and go anther way

thus far i know of no one in truth under the new covenant testifying that he said"buy a gun and shoot that person "...

 

[MoreCoffee]

Many of the wars David fought were presided over by God all through the Old we see this so dont tell me that God is against war

It seems that Jehovah did regard David's shedding of blood as disqualification for building the temple. What is to be made of that is a matter for discussion but that it is a fact is not up for debate.

 

[Highlander]

Scroll back...
I know..i too am lazy and do not always read through while threads before i reply.
You might find iv not be too popular on the topic.perferring to trust god over my ability with a gun .knowing he is far more able.

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I must admit that I did not understand the wording of your post at all. Can you rewrite it so it is easier to read?

 

[psalms 91]

It seems that Jehovah did regard David's shedding of blood as disqualification for building the temple. What is to be made of that is a matter for discussion but that it is a fact is not up for debate.

I thinmk it means that David had to much blood on his hands, not a blanket way of saying that he s against war

 

[MoreCoffee]

I think it means that David had to much blood on his hands, not a blanket way of saying that he s against war

The passage says specifically that the battles are what caused to blood to flow. Surely you saw that.

But the word of the Lord came to me, saying: "You have shed much blood, and you have battled in many wars. You are not able to build a house to my name, so great was the shedding of blood before me. (1 Chronicles 22:8)
Jehovah examines the upright and the wicked, the lover of violence he detests. (Psalms 11:5)

 

[psalms 91]

The passage says specifically that the battles are what caused to blood to flow. Surely you saw that.

But the word of the Lord came to me, saying: "You have shed much blood, and you have battled in many wars. You are not able to build a house to my name, so great was the shedding of blood before me. (1 Chronicles 22:8)
Jehovah examines the upright and the wicked, the lover of violence he detests. (Psalms 11:5)

Yup and I also know that the Lord was with David as well

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yup and I also know that the Lord was with David as well

Yes, perhaps not so much with David as David was with him

 

[psalms 91]

Is there a difference? What I do know is that God does not condone sin nor is He with anyone doing what He considers wrong

 

[MoreCoffee]

There is this difference - For I am Jehovah, I change not ... (Malachi 3:6) the implication being that a human being may move to be with God because God is not changing to be with any creature.


The Judgment of God
¶ “I’ll come near to you for judgment. I’ll be a witness, quick to speak against sorcerers, against adulterers, against those who swear falsely, against those who defraud the laborer of his wage, against those who defraud [SUP][The Heb. lacks against those who defraud][/SUP] the widow and the orphan, against those who deprive the alien of justice, and against those who don’t fear me,” says Jehovah of the Heavenly Armies. “Because I Jehovah don’t change; therefore you children of Jacob aren’t destroyed.”(Malachi 3:5-6)

 

[psalms 91]

God doesnt change and thta is true

 

[YESLORDIWILL]

Have ye never read what David did? (Mat 12:3, Mar 2:25, Luk 6:3)

1 Samuel 20-22, Psalms 52. The story continues through 1 Kings 2:9... Luke 6:27-36.

(Mat 12:29, Mar 3:27, 1Sam 24:4, 26:12)

 

[visionary]

One believer wrote...
I stand behind you at the store. I sit next to you while you eat. I wave as you drive past...all the while I have a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me near you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a lunatic walks into a public place and pulls out a rifle, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family. I will protect you and your family as well. I may get shot, but I won't die helpless on the floor begging for my or my child's life. No, if I die it will be in a pile of spent shell casings and it will give my family time to escape the situation. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun If you are not comfortable. Although I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim.

Matthew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God."

 

[Highlander]

Better words were never written, Visionary.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Obviously doing MORE of the same will not solve the problem that doing some of it causes. Having more guns in the hands of the populous will not solve the problem of some of the populous shooting others. More guns is much more likely to mean more people will use their guns to shoot others. The math is easy.

 

[psalms 91]

One believer wrote...
I stand behind you at the store. I sit next to you while you eat. I wave as you drive past...all the while I have a gun under my shirt and you are none the wiser, yet you are safer for having me near you. I won't shoot you. My gun won't pull it's own trigger. It is securely holstered with the trigger covered. It can't just go off. However, rest assured that if a lunatic walks into a public place and pulls out a rifle, I will draw my pistol and protect myself and my family. I will protect you and your family as well. I may get shot, but I won't die helpless on the floor begging for my or my child's life. No, if I die it will be in a pile of spent shell casings and it will give my family time to escape the situation. As for you, I don't ask you to carry a gun If you are not comfortable. Although I would like to keep my right to choose to not be a helpless victim.

Matthew 5:9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God."

Thank you, wisdom. Gun control is a horrible idea

 

[tango]

disciples of the lord Jesus don't require guns, so that would not be a bad thing -disciples of other leaders and schools of thought may need them.. but not disciples of the lord Jesus
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What has requiring guns got to do with anything?

If the people have the right to own a gun whether or not there's any particular requirement is irrelevant. Nobody needs a 400hp SUV but that doesn't mean they should be prohibited. People generally don't need a McMansion but still have the right to choose to buy them.