Dead know not anything...

[psalms 91]

eace:

 

[MoreCoffee]

So, since the faithful departed do in fact know a great deal we can lay to rest the interpretation that reads "the dead know nothing" as applicable to the faithful in heaven.

 

[psalms 91]

sounds right but not really sure

 

[MoreCoffee]

sounds right but not really sure

That's a good answer but you can learn and that is what you probably ought to do.

 

[visionary]

So, since the faithful departed do in fact know a great deal we can lay to rest the interpretation that reads "the dead know nothing" as applicable to the faithful in heaven.

...
no one dies in heaven.

 

[MoreCoffee]

...
no one dies in heaven.

That is true, and all the faithful departed will be in heaven, many are already, and they know a great deal. They are not asleep.

 

[visionary]

That is true, and all the faithful departed will be in heaven, many are already, and they know a great deal. They are not asleep.

The resurrection will be the day of departing to heaven.

 

[MoreCoffee]

The resurrection will be the day of departing to heaven.

For some, yes, others will accompany the Lord when he returns to judge the living and the dead and they accompany him because they are with him now. He is in heaven, of course, as the scriptures say.

 

[Full O Beans]

perhaps but it does raise the possibility that we wait

The only waiting that is done is on the part of the physically dead---inert, decaying bodies, waiting for resurrection. The righteous to glorification, and the unrighteous to judgment and condemnation.

 

[psalms 91]

The only waiting that is done is on the part of the physically dead---inert, decaying bodies, waiting for resurrection. The righteous to glorification, and the unrighteous to judgment and condemnation.

This I agree with

 

[MoreCoffee]

The only waiting that is done is on the part of the physically dead---inert, decaying bodies, waiting for resurrection. The righteous to glorification, and the unrighteous to judgment and condemnation.

Why call that waiting? What it is in reality is decaying unless the body is cremated. The souls of the blessed await the resurrection of their bodies. That is waiting.

 

[Full O Beans]

Why call that waiting? What it is in reality is decaying unless the body is cremated. The souls of the blessed await the resurrection of their bodies. That is waiting.

We will all experience resurrection. We wait for it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

The faithful departed do know something.

 

[visionary]

The waiting is for the living... the departed know nothing.

 

[MoreCoffee]

The waiting is for the living... the departed know nothing.

That is not true. Lazarus knew a great deal, so did Abraham. Even the wicked rich man knew things.

 

[visionary]

That is not true. Lazarus knew a great deal, so did Abraham. Even the wicked rich man knew things.

They were all living when they knew things.

 

[MoreCoffee]

They were all living when they knew things.

Yes, Lazarus was living in heaven with Abraham. The rich man in torments. And they did know things.

 

[visionary]

Yes, Lazarus was living in heaven with Abraham. The rich man in torments. And they did know things.

When Yeshua told parables, there were without names and used as illustrations. In the case of Abraham and Lazarus and the unnamed rich man, this has a deja vu ring to it. The only time when the three could be at the same place at the same time is when the wicked gather around the camp of God.. and then the story unfolds.

For those who believe the truth, it will make perfect sense, for the rest, they will remember this story that day, and with a sinking heart know they have believed a lie.

 

[MoreCoffee]

When Yeshua told parables, there were without names and used as illustrations. In the case of Abraham and Lazarus and the unnamed rich man, this has a deja vu ring to it. The only time when the three could be at the same place at the same time is when the wicked gather around the camp of God.. and then the story unfolds.

For those who believe the truth, it will make perfect sense, for the rest, they will remember this story that day, and with a sinking heart know they have believed a lie.

I can't help but notice how eccentric and obscure your claims about end times are. The story of the rich man and Lazarus is not set in the distant future. It is set in the time when the Lord Jesus Christ was speaking.

 

[visionary]

I can't help but notice how eccentric and obscure your claims about end times are. The story of the rich man and Lazarus is not set in the distant future. It is set in the time when the Lord Jesus Christ was speaking.

You will hear that conversation one day. .. as it really plays out before the world... then everyone will know...