are we saved if we remain in sin -? no

[psalms 91]

concieved by the Holy Spirit, no sin in him and no Christ did not have original sin or He would have needed a sacrifice Himself.

 

[MoreCoffee]

concieved by the Holy Spirit, no sin in him and no Christ did not have original sin or He would have needed a sacrifice Himself.

No sin in the Holy Spirit yet his mother?

 

[Josiah]

I don't know of a CHRISTIAN who doesn't sin. So, if CHRISTIANS are those without sin, then it seems likely there are no Christians (and we're all hellbound).

 

[MoreCoffee]

I don't know of a CHRISTIAN who doesn't sin. So, if CHRISTIANS are those without sin, then it seems likely there are no Christians (and we're all hellbound).

Your personal knowledge is not the same as exhaustive knowledge.

 

[Josiah]

Your personal knowledge is not the same as exhaustive knowledge.

Of course. Maybe you know that all Christians never sin. But that too would be personal knowledge, not exhaustive knowledge. Frankly, except for a few on the internet, I've never even "met" any Christians who even claimed to be sinless, perfect as God is, holy as God is, void of any sinful nature, of any sinful thought or words or deeds, void of any wrong in terms of omission or commission, any who have claimed to love all 7.3 billion people exactly to the extent that Jesus did on the Cross, who claim to have made disciples of all 7.3 billion people of the planet. Not even claimed to be doing the will of God. Never NOT doing that.

 

[psalms 91]

Your personal knowledge is not the same as exhaustive knowledge.

Back to mother church yet again?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Back to mother church yet again?

A humble admission that no individual knows everything; God only excepted.

 

[psalms 91]

I agree, no church, no person, no denom

 

[MoreCoffee]

I agree, no church, no person, no denom

God knows everything, the Church shares the mind of Christ.

 

[psalms 91]

only if they are hearing from God and are in the sapirit as all believers are supposed to be. How many do you know that hear from God or have visions or a word, not many which is a shame. No church is without error, no church is without traditions in place of scripture. Most are loaded with it

 

[MoreCoffee]

only if they are hearing from God and are in the sapirit as all believers are supposed to be. How many do you know that hear from God or have visions or a word, not many which is a shame. No church is without error, no church is without traditions in place of scripture. Most are loaded with it

The Church is the body of Christ always in the Spirit and always hearing the voice of the Lord.

 

[psalms 91]

The Church is the body of Christ always in the Spirit and always hearing the voice of the Lord.

wrong, you know scrpture and you are very knowledgeable so you should quit going back to the church, you are part of the body and you should be recieving your own revelation. Depending on revelation from long ago makes you miss revelation for today

 

[MoreCoffee]

wrong, you know scrpture and you are very knowledgeable so you should quit going back to the church, you are part of the body and you should be recieving your own revelation. Depending on revelation from long ago makes you miss revelation for today

Why would I disobey the Lord and stop gathering with the brethren in worship to receive the holy supper?

 

[psalms 91]

did not say to stop gathering I said to recieve your own revelation and to hear the voice of God for yourself

 

[MoreCoffee]

did not say to stop gathering I said to recieve your own revelation and to hear the voice of God for yourself

I have the holy scriptures and the living voice of Christ in his Church, that is enough for me. It is what the Lord promised. Seeking a private voice for one's self is contrary to the teaching of Christ and the apostles.

 

[psalms 91]

not really many have heard the voice of God and recieved revelation, what is contrary is to deaf and dumb to God we are to seek Him

 

[MoreCoffee]

not really many have heard the voice of God and received revelation, what is contrary is to deaf and dumb to God we are to seek Him

Many claim to receive visions, dreams, prophetic words, and various other revelatory gifts but the moment they claim these things are public revelation binding upon the whole church - all of the faithful in Christ - we know it is not the truth.

 

[psalms 91]

I agree that many have ruined it but I do not agree that everything proclaimed in public is to be trashed, there really are true prophets out there. Also I am talking personal revelation direct from God through the Holy Spirit moreso than declarations in public

 

[MoreCoffee]

I agree that many have ruined it but I do not agree that everything proclaimed in public is to be trashed, there really are true prophets out there. Also I am talking personal revelation direct from God through the Holy Spirit moreso than declarations in public

Private revelation may be spoken in public but it does not bind the faithful to obedience - only those who receive it and seek to follow it are bound by their own consciences to obey it.

 

[psalms 91]

very true, how about those who say God doesnt speak or they dont hear Him? Do they then miss it