Name those sins Christ didn't die for

[MoreCoffee]

1 Timothy 2:5-6 AMP
For there is [only] one God, and [only] one Mediator between God and mankind, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom [a substitutionary sacrifice to atone] for all, the testimony given at the right and proper time.

Why is the word [only] added to the verse in two places? What it really says is: "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time." (1 Timothy 2:5-6) And why is the long phrase [a substitutionary sacrifice to atone] added to the verse. That AMP you're using is quite a bad source for quotes from the holy scriptures.

 

[psalms 91]

It seems that "all sin" = all the sins of those who avail themselves of Jesus' forgiveness. Is that your intended meaning?

It is mine and thta is backed up by scripture

 

[Rens]

The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold,*the Lamb of God*who takes away the sin of the world!


Isaiah 53

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned,*every one,*to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of*us all"

who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for*the whole world

 

[Alithis]

The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, "Behold,*the Lamb of God*who takes away the sin of the world!


Isaiah 53

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned,*every one,*to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of*us all"

who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for*the whole world

And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.


hi messy

note it says "many" not All as far as bearing their sin upon the cross .
simply because not all will have his righteousness credited to them by faith .. but only those who by faith Repent and are baptised into his death on the cross that they might also be raised up again into hos resurection.

 

[psalms 91]

And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.


hi messy

note it says "many" not All as far as bearing their sin upon the cross .
simply because not all will have his righteousness credited to them by faith .. but only those who by faith Repent and are baptised into his death on the cross that they might also be raised up again into hos resurection.

yes

 

[Rens]

And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.


hi messy

note it says "many" not All as far as bearing their sin upon the cross .
simply because not all will have his righteousness credited to them by faith .. but only those who by faith Repent and are baptised into his death on the cross that they might also be raised up again into hos resurection.

Yes saw that one too, but He's also the propitiation for the whole world. So if one doesn't accept His offer He didn't bear their sin?
John said who takes away the sin of the world. If He didn't bear their sin He can't hold them accountable for not accepting His offer if it was not for them.

That man who didn't want to forgive his fellow slave: he had forgiven his whole debt but then when he didn't forgive his fellow slave he didn't forgive him either anymore. Sounds like they get it back then.

 

[TurtleHare]

Earlier in the verse it states


Isaiah 53:6King James Version (KJV)

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

 

[MoreCoffee]

It is mine and that is backed up by scripture

Where exactly is it backed by holy scripture. What passage teaches that?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Earlier in the verse it states


Isaiah 53:6King James Version (KJV)

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Who exactly is the "us" in that verse from Isaiah? Could it be Israel?

 

[Full O Beans]

There is none so blind as those who WILL not see.

 

[MoreCoffee]

There is none so blind as those who WILL not see.

Is that from the bible?

 

[Rens]

18*Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
The free gift is for all, just not all accept it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

18*Therefore as by the offence of one judgement came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
The free gift is for all, just not all accept it.

Death even came to the Lord Jesus Christ. Yet death evidently did not come to Enoch.

 

[Lamb]

Why is the word [only] added to the verse in two places? What it really says is: "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time." (1 Timothy 2:5-6) And why is the long phrase [a substitutionary sacrifice to atone] added to the verse. That AMP you're using is quite a bad source for quotes from the holy scriptures.

The entire world fell into sin so the entire world is redeemed by the Savior. There's your answer.

 

[psalms 91]

The entire world fell into sin so the entire world is redeemed by the Savior. There's your answer.

If this is true and does not depend on us repenting and coming to Christ then why is the world in such a fallen state? Seems to me that if all is forgiven then the world should be in better shape

 

[MoreCoffee]

The entire world fell into sin so the entire world is redeemed by the Savior. There's your answer.

Does redeeming the whole world - presumably meaning every single individual that's lived over all time past, present, and future - mean that all of them are forgiven for every sin and hence have no sins to answer for at the last judgement?

 

[Lamb]

Think of the inheritance where it's in your account but if you don't want it, you don't spend it. If you don't believe it's there, it's no good to you either. If you would rather work for it rather than acknowledge it and receive it, then it's not going to benefit you either.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Think of the inheritance where it's in your account but if you don't want it, you don't spend it. If you don't believe it's there, it's no good to you either. If you would rather work for it rather than acknowledge it and receive it, then it's not going to benefit you either.

In a court case to recover one's debts the assets that you have, even if never claimed or not known to exist by you, will be used to repay your debts. If they are yours then they are available to pay your debts when the courts orders payment be made.

 

[Lamb]

We have the inheritance in our account. At our deaths we get the ultimate pay out for those who believe and trust in the Savior for the forgiveness of sins. Those who don't want it or don't believe (reject the Savior and forgiveness) do NOT get it. They will be judged according to their own works. As a believer, I will point to Christ since I'm covered by His righteousness.

 

[MoreCoffee]

We have the inheritance in our account. At our deaths we get the ultimate pay out for those who believe and trust in the Savior for the forgiveness of sins. Those who don't want it or don't believe (reject the Savior and forgiveness) do NOT get it. They will be judged according to their own works. As a believer, I will point to Christ since I'm covered by His righteousness.

I know why you've written the above but I wonder if it really has firm roots in the holy scriptures. It reads like a theory of the atonement that is not actually taught in the holy scriptures.