Baptism by sprinkling

[MoreCoffee]

I agree with that and I also would say that sprinkling is never commanded in the bible either so whats your point

Sprinkling is commanded in the old covenant

 

[MoreCoffee]

Does a wedding ring really make you married?

Wedding rings are not part of the sacrament.

 

[Lamb]

Right. A wedding ring does not make the marriage. But in Baptism, we are baptized INTO the triune God and we are made His. That's not symbolic at all. Something actually happens because God's Word effects.

 

[Josiah]

you haven't given any direct unambiguous scripture to support sprinkling.

You haven't given "any direct unambiguous scripture" to mandate dunking.

I don't know of any verse that states, "Thou shalt administer Baptism by means of ______________ and art forbidden to administer it otherwise." If you know of that verse, please verbatim quote it.



What I find.... interesting.... is that the same folks that MANDATE a particular method of administration in Baptism are the very same folks who INSIST that Communion can be administered any way you want ("the HOW does NOT matter!").... Welch's Grape Juice, Weber's White Bread, little cups, passed around, a few times a year.... because "it doesn't matter HOW you do it!!!!" and "it's WRONG to make practice into law!!!!" And the very same folks that insist Baptism can NOT be Baptism unless at least 2.34 gallons of water are involved turn around and insist that doesn't matter how much wine is received (or even if it is wine) or how much white bread is to be received (or even if it is white bread). And the same folks who insist that ONLY those over the age of X and who had recited the "Sinner's Prayer" and adequately responded to an "Altar Call" may be baptized turn around and insist that ALL may receive Communion. Interesting.


Since you insist that OTHERS must have verbatim "direct unambiguous scripture" in order to do something, then friend - where is YOUR direct unambiguous scripture" for dunking? For posting on the internet? For having youth groups?
For using electricity? For passing around grape juice and Weber's bread to all who want it?



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- Josiah

 

[psalms 91]

Flowing water, living water is mandated I believe, could be wrong but it seems to me that it is

 

[Lamb]

Doesn't the water flow when poured?

 

[Full O Beans]

How do you view it?

"Baptizo" means "immerse", and as all baptisms in scripture were by full immersion, we have no cause to change it to sprinkling.

 

[psalms 91]

"Baptizo" means "immerse", and as all baptisms in scripture were by full immersion, we have no cause to change it to sprinkling.

Yes

 

[MoreCoffee]

I reckon baptise means wash, that is why the scriptures teach that one washes away one's sins by baptism.

 

[Full O Beans]

I reckon baptise means wash, that is why the scriptures teach that one washes away one's sins by baptism.

You reckon wrongly. "Baptizo" means "immerse", which is why baptism does not wash away sin. It is a symbol of our identification with Jesus Christ in His death, burial and resurrection.

 

[MoreCoffee]

You reckon wrongly. "Baptizo" means "immerse", which is why baptism does not wash away sin. It is a symbol of our identification with Jesus Christ in His death, burial and resurrection.

Nope, it means wash. That is why the Pharisees baptised couches.

 

[Full O Beans]

Nope, it means wash. That is why the Pharisees baptised couches.

The Pharisees were ignorant of the truth, also. "Baptizo" means "immerse" or "submerge".

 

[MoreCoffee]

The Pharisees were ignorant of the truth, also. "Baptizo" means "immerse" or "submerge".

No, baptise means wash

 

[Full O Beans]

No, baptise means wash

Look it up yourself. It's principle meaning is to fully submerge.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Look it up yourself. It's principle meaning is to fully submerge.

Nope, its first definition is wash.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Here are all the places the word is used of Christian baptism.

Mat 28:19; Mar 16:16; Joh 3:5; Joh 3:22; Joh 4:1-2; Act 1:5; Act 1:22; Act 2:38; Act 2:41; Act 8:12-13; Act 8:16; Act 8:36-38; Act 9:18; Act 10:46-48; Act 16:14-15; Act 16:33; Act 18:8; Act 18:25; Act 19:4-5; Act 22:16; Rom 6:3-4; 1Co 1:13-17; 1Co 10:1-2; 1Co 12:13; 1Co 15:29; Gal 3:27; Eph 4:5; Eph 5:26; Col 2:12; Heb 6:2; 1Pe 3:18; 1Pe 3:21

 

[Full O Beans]

Here are all the places the word is used of Christian baptism.

Mat 28:19; Mar 16:16; Joh 3:5; Joh 3:22; Joh 4:1-2; Act 1:5; Act 1:22; Act 2:38; Act 2:41; Act 8:12-13; Act 8:16; Act 8:36-38; Act 9:18; Act 10:46-48; Act 16:14-15; Act 16:33; Act 18:8; Act 18:25; Act 19:4-5; Act 22:16; Rom 6:3-4; 1Co 1:13-17; 1Co 10:1-2; 1Co 12:13; 1Co 15:29; Gal 3:27; Eph 4:5; Eph 5:26; Col 2:12; Heb 6:2; 1Pe 3:18; 1Pe 3:21

All have to do with being immersed.

 

[MoreCoffee]

All have to do with being immersed.

No, the passages I cited have a lot to do with washing away sins.

 

[psalms 91]

If you really want to look at it then go to the Mikvah and how did the priests wash to be clean? They had to be immersed

 

[MoreCoffee]

If you really want to look at it then go to the Mikvah and how did the priests wash to be clean? They had to be immersed

I never worry too much about the method of washing for truly couches cannot be easily washed by submersion.