Slain in the spirit
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When the power of God overcomes a believer to the point that thye go down, that is slain in the spirit and it can last for hours and usually a work takes place within the believer when they go down. I cant really explain it but I do know it is real as I have experienced this and others I know have as well. One particular individual I remember well was a friend of mione who I invited to a meeting witha pentecostal revival preacher, he is Methodist and he did not believe in this. When the preacher started going through people he pointed at him and walked towards him and my friend was backing up and went down. No fake since he didnt believe in it and when he got up he wasnt the same for a few days after. He then believed
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its a terminology coined to describe when a person is rendered (incapacitated) prone on the floor due to the presence of the power of the Holy Spirit .
it has been mimicked by so many ..when it really happens it is rare . i don't see any scriptural precedent for it though it did take place sometimes when people were being healed (delivered )of demons.. they were "thrown " to the ground and the devil came out .
but in simplicity ..when some one falls down to the ground and lays prone on the floor . people started to nickname it "slain " ... simply becaseu they lay there suddenly as if dead ..
it is not a doctrine , i don't know of any one who teaches that it should happen and for the most part no one plans for it to happen.. some people just fall down ??? biblically when people came into Gods presence they fell -"on thier face" not over backwards . thought the group who came to get the lord Jesus and arrest him fell over backwards.. and got up again .
i don't understand it but it does happen.
as with everything though many fall down for no good reason ..or to be seen to have it happen . thats sad ... always there's tares among the wheat
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But don't you believe it is wrong, false and blasphemy to use a term or title not specifically found as such in the Bible?
So it's a PRACTICE (something perhaps DONE) rather than a doctrine (some TEACHING one must accept as correct)? Ah. You've stressed often that we are forbidden to do things unless Jesus did it (sometimes modified to unless the Apostles specifically did it and sometimes modified to unless it is clearly illustrated in the New Testament). Could you give a few examples where Jesus did this? Where the Apostles did this? And where it is specifically illustrated in the New Testament as "slane in the Spirit?"
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Sure..if some started to use the term to mislead others into error i would certainly declare it those things.
For instance if they said "they are slain in the spirit therefore the spirit is a slayer...id be most perturbed by such terminology and would call immediately for repentance from such erroneous use.
and No .. i did not say "its a practice " ..you add to my words .. i said those occurrences ,which I alluded to , are recorded in scripture as happening - nothing more
For instance if they said "they are slain in the spirit therefore the spirit is a slayer...id be most perturbed by such terminology and would call immediately for repentance from such erroneous use.
and No .. i did not say "its a practice " ..you add to my words .. i said those occurrences ,which I alluded to , are recorded in scripture as happening - nothing more
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It's not something that has ever happened to me so I can't speak from experience.
It is something I'm wary of, for two reaosns.
One reason is simply because of its association with the hypercharismatic churches that often seem to get heavily into highly emotional and very repetitive songs that can do all sorts of things when a state of euphoria, potentially verging on hypnosis is induced (some have said that what happens in some of these services is effectively a form of hypnosis), and when people start falling like flies I can't help but wonder how much of it is the power of suggestion coupled with a bit of the "me too" desire and maybe a quick shove from the preacher.
The other is that when we see people falling over as if dead in the Bible they seem to fall forwards, on their faces. Ezekiel fell on his face (Eze 1:28), Daniel was on his face (Dan 10:8-9), when the voice from the clouds announced "This is my son, in whom I am pleased" the disciples fell on their faces (Matt 17:6). But when people are "slain in the spirit" they always seem to fall backwards.
As far as a Scriptural precedent goes it's hard to say, other than to observe that people falling over backwards doesn't fit very well with recorded instances of people falling over forwards. I also can't help thinking that even if the claims in favor of the phenomenon are valid and God truly is doing a work in someone's life I wouldn't expect to find large numbers of people in one place dropping like flies, I'd expect it to be a far more selective phenomenon. I certainly wouldn't expect speakers to be making backhanded jokes about it, about people standing behind someone to be in danger etc. To me that sort of silliness suggests the person is treating the Holy Spirit like some kind of personal power trip, and talking as if the Holy Spirit is a power they can wield at their own will.
That said I'd want to know more about it to actively reject it, but from what I can see I'd be cautious of it.
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Being 'slain in the spirit' became very popular in Pentecostal and Charismatic circles in the 1970s.
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yes it did .. never been to sure about it myself .except its more charismatic then pentecostal
and from what i have seen of it ..one can never judge by the outer appearance .. just because a person falls down and lays on the ground ,we cannot just assume it is of God
evil spirits can manifest that way also .they cause people to be thrown to the ground in scripture . discernment is required
and from what i have seen of it ..one can never judge by the outer appearance .. just because a person falls down and lays on the ground ,we cannot just assume it is of God
evil spirits can manifest that way also .they cause people to be thrown to the ground in scripture . discernment is required
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If it took until the 1970s for being slain in the spirit to become popular and very little evidence of it happening before the 1970s except as the more mundane swooning that happened in some 'revivals' during the 19th century and 18th century maybe it is a natural response rather than some kind of spiritual gift from God.
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How many were slain in the spirit in scripture and what was it like, what did they experience, how did it affect them when it was happening, and what did they come away with from the experience?
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It isn't a doctrine. It is not something that is "taught" as something that is suppose to happen. But many people say they have experienced it. I have experienced it, and I cannot describe it other than to say that is where I want to live !! I know you have heard of a mountain top experience before. That is the way a lot of people explain it. I can't explain it that way.
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Saul on the Damascus Road.
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I wonder what else will come under attack or questioned to death next. Sorry but I feel my beliefs are being trashed a lot and personally I dont like it but thats just me. Slain in the Spirit is real, just as so many other things I have defended here lately is also true and no amount of words will change what I believe as I knowitto be true.
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Is being slain in the spirit a doctrine/belief that you hold dear?
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People attack what they do not understand Bill. Slain in the spirit is something that cannot be explained with meer words. The best explanation I have heard is the Hymn He Touched Me.Something happened! That is the only way to explain it with words. But that is really no "understandable" explanation. Saul was struck blind and dumb for three days straight by his experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aO1ge8ASZQ
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So true and what a beautiful song, Elvis was very gifted
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With respect Bill, if you feel your beliefs are being trashed why not use Scripture to defend them?
Paul lauded the Bereans for searching Scripture to test what he was teaching them. He was obviously confident his teaching would stand up to scrutiny. If you can't defend what you believe to be true using Scripture, how can you be confident that it is true? If what you're saying is nothing more than "I know it to be true" how would you counter the person who says nothing more than "I know it to be false"?