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i dont even read your posts
We know.
You don't read anything.
You haven't even read the title we're discussing.
You haven't read Matthew 1:18.
You haven't read Titus 2:13.
You haven't read about the two heresies you are promoting (Arianism and Nestorianism).
You just read your own posts..... and obsess over your own wild, incredible, amazing, crazy, silly
strawmen of your own invention. Crazy, silly things that you've posted about since you've yet to actually READ the title we're discussing or any of the posts directed to you. Crazy, incredible
strawmen you've invented: "Mary - the Goddess who Bore Jesus" and "Mary - the Creator of the Creator" "Mary - The Source of the Trinity" and other amazing things I can't believe ANYONE would even be able to create. IF you had just read the TITLE, these 59 pages would never have been consumed.
bro.. do you know what an impasse is ?
In your case, it's what happens when you don't READ.
You don't READ the title, you don't READ the Bible on this, you don't READ posts to you.
When you don't READ, nothing happens for you.
In your case, you hold to two heresies: Arianism and Nestorianism.
And thus you regard the teachings of Matthew 1:18 and Titus 2:13 to be "
false, wrong and blasphemy."
For FIFTY NINE pages, you (and 2 or 3 others) have insisted these teachings are "
wrong, false and blasphemy"
In your case, as we've witnessed so clearly and SO often, it's not just the two biblical teachings you denounce (promoting heresies and heretic instead) - but it's also a plethora of
strawmen of your own wild, incredible imagination: things we all know (including you) NO ONE ON THE PLANET ever has stated or proclaimed or believed. Wild, silly, absurd things you've invented and then rebuked. Things that have nothing whatsoever to do with anything, crazy things like: "Mary - The Goddess Who Bore Jesus" and "Mary - Creator of the Creator" and "Mary - the Source of the Trinity.' You have never actually READ the title we're discussing. Thus, 59 pages of your amazingly and disturbing posts.
if you adresse a simple question probing into "why" you maintain your stance.
You never asked that. You kept asking why I WANT Mary to be called something (you never said what). But you would not quote where I said I wanted her to be called anything.
But I did tell why I defend the theology here:
1. Because it is the clear, verbatim teachings of Matthew 1:18 and Titus 2:13 Etc., etc., etc., etc.
2. Because it has been affirmed by the First, Third and Fifth Ecumenical Councils (embraced as true by virtually all Protestants)
3. Because affirming the two inseparable natures of Christ is CRITICAL to Christianity.
4. Because the views you are promoting are ancient, condemned, extremely dangerous heresies.
You've never engaged the actual title because it seems you've never read it, you aren't aware of it.
And you evidently aren't aware of the heresies you promote.
Instead, you impose these heresies against Scripture and promote the
strawmen of your own AMAZING, incredible imagination
in place of the title which it seems you've never read, you simply are unaware of.
i maintain ..i will not call her that becaseu God never has
We know. And it's
silly.
You of course can choose to not use titles or words that you have no proof God ever did - but it's silly to condemn others for doing so. And of course, it means you can't use words or titles such as "Bible, Trinity, Sunday School, Bible Study, Youth, Praise Band, Contemporary Service, Altar Call, Evangelical, Denomination, Website, Automobile, Television, Internet, United States of America" and much more. I have a hunch you don't accept OR apply this rule of yours, you regard it as silly and don't use it. I've asked you why you insist on doing what you don't do - but, yeah, you've admitted: you don't read.
Even if that were true (and you've not mentioned this, and you've done NOTHING -
NOTHING - to show this is true) that would NOT make the two teachings
"false, wrong and blasphemy" as you have been arguing for 59 pages. It would mean this - like everything - has the ability to be misunderstood. A point ALL of us supporting the title have admitted. LONG ago. But yeah, you admitted it: you don't read.
ANYTHING and EVERYTHING can be misunderstood and misapplied.
No one has denied that. In fact, I specifically have stated - several times - that that can happen.
I said that way back in post #14. Several defending the title have said that. But yeah, you admitted it, you don't read. But admitting that anything and everything has the possibility of misunderstanding and misapplication (everything does!!!!), does NOT support your view that these two teachings are
"false, wrong and blasphemy." Or that ergo Arianism and Nestorianism are to be supported rather than condemned. But yeah, I know, you don't read. You've finally admitted why you've pushed this to 59 pages: it's not just because of your Arianism and Nestorianism, but because you just don't READ. You haven't read the title we're discussing. You haven't read about your heresies. You haven't read the posts here.
in stark contrast .. NOT calling her the mother of God can lead NO one astray .
Wrong. Irrelevant to these two teachings being "
false, wrong and blasphemy" as you have insisted, but wrong. We've TRIED to tell you about your Nestorianism.... but like you said, you don't read. Actually, if you had read, you'd know that this very point IS what lead Nestorius into heresy - it did a LOT, a LOT of harm and lead MANY astray. But again, as you admitted, you don't read. GREAT harm comes by denoucing the two inseparable natures of Christ! This was explained to you..... you were encouraged to learn about the heresy you've been promoting.... but like you said, you don't read.
new question for you DO you want me to folow MAN or to folow God ?
You are following Nestorius.
I'm simply affirming Matthew 1:18 and Titus 2:13.
- Josiah
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