As a voting Christian...

[Lamb]

What qualities do you look for in your chosen candidate? Everyone is sinful, we know that, but what are the things you really want to see in a candidate and what issues do you want to be in agreement as a must? How much does being a Christian play a part in how you vote and where do you struggle in finding someone, what issues will you cave in on and vote anyway?

 

[Josiah]

I'm a Republican (MOSTLY for social reasons, life especially)

I actually have always liked Jeb Bush but I regard him as unelectable (and the polls - yes, of questionable value - tend to agree). I somewhat liked Christy but well.... I've always liked Rubio (although his postion as just a senator is a minus).

I like Rubio on the issues (especially social ones and life). I like him as a person. He seems to be a good and moral man with a respectable life. He seems smart and (usually) articulate and measured. I understand he is the one both Democrat candidates most fear. I think he is the one who not only would get all the Republicans behind him (absolutely essential) BUT a majority of independents (necessary to win). I think if Sanders is the Democrat, I think Rubio could even get some Democrat votes. Polls show him beating both in a general election - the only Republican who does (again, not putting too much value on polls - especially this early). http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html

While Cruz is trying to appeal to the uber-conservatives in the party, we tend to forget that it was RUBIO (not Cruz) who was and is the darling of the Tea Party and the one who got all the attention from that aspect of the Republicans. He has FAR more experience than Cruz and lacks Cruz's "edge" that I understand has alienated so very many. And I think Cruz just comes off as..... weird and not likeable; I think that "edge" is going to harm him in the general election even as it is among many Republicans. And of course, in terms of issues, there's little difference between these 44 year old Freshmen Senators, the sons of Cubans. I think Rubio simply is far more electable (and probably more even-tempered and respectable). And again, he simply polls better against both Dems.



- Josiah

 

[tango]

What qualities do you look for in your chosen candidate? Everyone is sinful, we know that, but what are the things you really want to see in a candidate and what issues do you want to be in agreement as a must? How much does being a Christian play a part in how you vote and where do you struggle in finding someone, what issues will you cave in on and vote anyway?

For me I look for someone whose politics I can agree with and someone who appears to be honest (as much as you can tell based on a heavily stage-managed media presence).

Personally I'd like to see Hillary and Jeb disqualified from the presidential race simply because the roll call of Presidents already ends Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Obama, Obama and the last thing I think it needs is another Bush or Clinton. I prefer to think of America as a place where anyone can be elected President, rather than a place where if you have the right surname you're all but a shoo-in.

 

[Josiah]

What about you, Lamm?

 

[Stravinsk]

What qualities do you look for in your chosen candidate? Everyone is sinful, we know that, but what are the things you really want to see in a candidate and what issues do you want to be in agreement as a must? How much does being a Christian play a part in how you vote and where do you struggle in finding someone, what issues will you cave in on and vote anyway?

As for American Politics, the only candidate that ever really resonated with me was Ron Paul. I think that says a fair amount without expanding on that. Believe it or not, that man and his ideas had support groups across the world, including Australia.

 

[Lamb]

What about you, Lamm?

I don't care for any of the current candidates. I would like one who believes in the biblical idea of marriage, is against abortion, and won't raise taxes since I'm paying out the nose already.

 

[psalms 91]

I don't care for any of the current candidates. I would like one who believes in the biblical idea of marriage, is against abortion, and won't raise taxes since I'm paying out the nose already.

Yes, if it is Hillary or Donald I would vote Goofy or Micky as that is not a choice but a comedy of errors

 

[Josiah]

I don't care for any of the current candidates. I would like one who believes in the biblical idea of marriage, is against abortion, and won't raise taxes since I'm paying out the nose already.

That would include all the Republicans with the possible exception of Trump.

 

[MoreCoffee]

What qualities do you look for in your chosen candidate? Everyone is sinful, we know that, but what are the things you really want to see in a candidate and what issues do you want to be in agreement as a must? How much does being a Christian play a part in how you vote and where do you struggle in finding someone, what issues will you cave in on and vote anyway?

Good policies that favour the poor and help the helpless. Honesty in public statements wherever it is possible to be honest (state secrets and such permitting). Lack of corruption and ties to corrupting practises.

 

[Brighten04]

Remember the Movie Brewsters Millions with Richard Pryor. Brewster ran a campaign to get None Of The Above placed on a ballot, and None Of The Above won. :rotfl:

 

[Lamb]

Good policies that favour the poor and help the helpless. Honesty in public statements wherever it is possible to be honest (state secrets and such permitting). Lack of corruption and ties to corrupting practises.

Ah, the Anti-Politician! I don't know of any politician that has those qualities but I sure do like your list!

 

[psalms 91]

Yeah, I kind of like Bernie Sanders

 

[Brighten04]

Yeah, I kind of like Bernie Sanders

Wouldn't it be funny if everybody wrote Sanders in and Sanders won by write in vote. (Just thinking here y'all, I know it will not happen.)

 

[psalms 91]

Love it

 

[tango]

I don't care for any of the current candidates. I would like one who believes in the biblical idea of marriage, is against abortion, and won't raise taxes since I'm paying out the nose already.

When you refer to the biblical idea of marriage, what exactly is concerning you? Are you wanting someone to oppose divorcees remarrying as well as opposing gay marriage?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Ah, the Anti-Politician! I don't know of any politician that has those qualities but I sure do like your list!

There have been some I think. In many ways Nelson Mandela seems a good fit. Perhaps Mahatma Gandhi too. I wonder if Abraham Lincoln also would fit? Not many do fit I suppose.

 

[Josiah]

When you refer to the biblical idea of marriage, what exactly is concerning you? Are you wanting someone to oppose divorcees remarrying as well as opposing gay marriage?

Trump has been divorced twice. And we all know the story there..... Republicans SO upset over Bill Clinton's indiscretions don't seem to give a rip about Trump's.

And the same Republicans who BLASTED Obama for having only two years experience in government (thus mandating on-the-job training) seem fine with Trump having ZERO and Cruz having less experience in government than Obama had.



What we DO know is that Clinton is radically pro-abortion, pro-nonmarriage. And, according to the polls, there is only one Republican who can beat her in the general election (and it's NOT Trump.... or Cruz): http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html



- Josiah




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[Brighten04]

Did you all know that Trump has been charged with financial fraud and the case has been working it's way through the courts for five years?

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/with-gop-nomination-looming-trump-slated-to-take-191550876.html

 

[tango]

Trump has been divorced twice. And we all know the story there..... Republicans SO upset over Bill Clinton's indiscretions don't seem to give a rip about Trump's.

And the same Republicans who BLASTED Obama for having only two years experience in government (thus mandating on-the-job training) seem fine with Trump having ZERO and Cruz having less experience in government than Obama had.

What we DO know is that Clinton is radically pro-abortion, pro-nonmarriage. And, according to the polls, there is only one Republican who can beat her in the general election (and it's NOT Trump.... or Cruz): http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html

- Josiah
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I'm sure there are some Republicans who howled over Clinton while giving Trump a free pass, just as I'm sure there will be some Democrats who howl over Trump while giving Clinton a free pass. That's not really relevant to my question.

I asked the question I did because I've seen a few people who talk of a desire to return to "biblical marriage" when what they mean is they want gay marriage banned. They're quite happy with serial monogamy as long as the people involved are of opposite genders, despite what Jesus said about people who remarry.

Of course not everybody fits into neat pigeonholes, hence the question rather than an assumption.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

Sorry to see that the Republican side is unelectable (imo) this time around. I had really wished that Romney had his ship set on a better course last time around. A moderate Republican (socially and fiscally) would do well, but it seems that the Republicans haven't learned that. If I was still able to vote, I would either sit this one out, or see what platform Sanders was running on, and just vote in the State/Local ballots.