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Therefore, those in Christ Jesus have no condemnation. For the law of the Spirit that gives life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. (Romans 8:1-2)

Can a Christian find him/her self condemned by God for wickedness?

 

[TurtleHare]

That verse speaks of the justification we have because of the cross and Jesus'death but you ask whether we still have condemnation and the answer is when we die as believers no. While on earth though we have the Holy Spirit who uses the Law as a mirror curb and guide and the Law accuses us of our wrong doings because we need to know when we stray. God who is faithful will keep pointing us back to Him and the cross as He brings us to repentance.

 

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To me it means as long as we walk in the spirit and not in our flesh. It is only in the flesh that we sin

 

[Full O Beans]

Therefore, those in Christ Jesus have no condemnation. For the law of the Spirit that gives life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. (Romans 8:1-2)

Can a Christian find him/her self condemned by God for wickedness?

No.

 

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Many are very confident of their safe calling and assured salvation yet the Judge on the last day may say something that shakes their security and ends in their condemnation

When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.
(Matthew 25:31-46)

 

[Full O Beans]

Believers do not stand before God on the day of final judgment. Our salvation is assured.

 

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Believers do not stand before God on the day of final judgment.

Where is that said in the holy scriptures? Nowhere?

For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert.

Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: "The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry." We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did--and in one day twenty- three thousand of them died. We should not test the Lord, as some of them did--and were killed by snakes. And do not grumble, as some of them did--and were killed by the destroying angel.

These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfilment of the ages has come. So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall! No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.
(1 Corinthians 10:1-13)

 

[Full O Beans]

Everywhere. The GWT is for unbelievers only.

 

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When you have something from the holy scriptures to discuss you will, no doubt, cite the passage or quote it. When you have nothing all we'll see is an opinion dressed up in pious language.

 

[Full O Beans]

When you have something from the holy scriptures to discuss you will, no doubt, cite the passage or quote it. When you have nothing all we'll see is an opinion dressed up in pious language.

Nah, what I believe is taught in scripture, but it is in many places. A full study is necessary, but if you wish to discuss end times events, just say so. But let me say this: the Great White Throne Judgment occurs at the end, but before this there is the Bema Seat Judgment of Christ, the judgment of believers, which happens about 1000 years prior to the GWT Judgment. So you need to study eschatology carefully, with Holy Spirit's guidance, and understand the timeline of events.

For a start, Revelation 20:5 gives you the truth that the GWT Judgment is indeed the second death, which is not for believers.

 

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I commend the passages I've cited and quoted in my posts to all who read the thread; they can see for themselves how the scriptures urge the faithful not to do wickedness and abandon God's calling for fear of the judgement to come.

 

[Full O Beans]

I commend the passages I've cited and quoted in my posts to all who read the thread; they can see for themselves how the scriptures urge the faithful not to do wickedness and abandon God's calling for fear of the judgement to come.

True Christians can lose certain rewards stored up for them, but they will never lose their standing as God's adopted children. He is the perfect Father, and His promises are true. He says He will never leave or forsake us.

 

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True Christians can lose certain rewards stored up for them, but they will never lose their standing as God's adopted children. He is the perfect Father, and His promises are true. He says He will never leave or forsake us.

That doesnt say we cant move away from Him

 

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That doesnt say we cant move away from Him

You are right and it does not say that everybody who claims that the promises are theirs is speaking truthfully. Matthew 25:31-46 teaches the lesson that some will be sure of their good standing with God only to discover that they are condemned. There's more to living a Christian life of faith than simply saying "I believe therefore I am right with God" as some seem to think.

 

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That doesnt say we cant move away from Him

True believers who have experienced the very real salvation of God can certainly shipwreck their lives by being disobedient to God. But we do not lose our salvation. God doesn't renege on His adoptions.

1 Timothy 1:19
Cling to your faith in Christ, and keep your conscience clear. For some people have deliberately violated their consciences; as a result, their faith has been shipwrecked.

 

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True believers who have experienced the very real salvation of God can certainly shipwreck their lives by being disobedient to God. But we do not lose our salvation. God doesn't renege on His adoptions.

1 Timothy 1:19
Cling to your faith in Christ, and keep your conscience clear. For some people have deliberately violated their consciences; as a result, their faith has been shipwrecked.

Once saved always saved I take it for that is what you are preaching and Hebrews chapter6 makes it very plain that we can

 

[Full O Beans]

Once saved always saved I take it for that is what you are preaching and Hebrews chapter6 makes it very plain that we can

Of course! Jesus says He will lose none of His own. We have to be sure of our position in Christ. We who have been truly saved can fall, but not far from our Father who chases after us. According to Hebrews 12:6, He chastens those He loves, but He doesn't kick His kids out of the house.

 

[Full O Beans]

http://www.gotquestions.org/Hebrews-6.html

 

[psalms 91]

Of course! Jesus says He will lose none of His own. We have to be sure of our position in Christ. We who have been truly saved can fall, but not far from our Father who chases after us. According to Hebrews 12:6, He chastens those He loves, but He doesn't kick His kids out of the house.

No He doesnt and He is long suffering but just as the Israelites tried God and eventually He removed Hios presence from the temple and it was desroyed and the temple is within us and if we try God and push Hinm to far He will put out the light in our temple as well

 

[Full O Beans]

No He doesnt and He is long suffering but just as the Israelites tried God and eventually He removed Hios presence from the temple and it was desroyed and the temple is within us and if we try God and push Hinm to far He will put out the light in our temple as well

He doesn't what?

Our salvation is sure, if we have met and experienced and have faith in Jesus. We can fall, but Jesus will never let us out of His sure grip.

John 10:27-29
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me, 29 for my Father has given them to me, and he is more powerful than anyone else. No one can snatch them from the Father’s hand.