Sin against the temple or body.

[popsthebuilder]

So I know drinking and other things are permissible to those in pain and sorrow, but what of those who have no excuse? What if one is actively killing themself with alcohol or some other substance and they know it? What if an individual knows that no substance whatsoever is to enter their body that would adversely affect it, yet they do it anyway? I know a good bit about sin and ways to detect it, but how does one go about stopping when they know that is what is asked of them. Surely God is a God of mercy and grace, but how long, how many times will God excuse one who willingly goes against God's will?

Sorry, probably all over the place. Just wanted some opinions from others.

Thanks
Peace,
All thanks and praise is to GOD, through Christ, blessed be his name.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Brighten04]

So I know drinking and other things are permissible to those in pain and sorrow, but what of those who have no excuse? What if one is actively killing themself with alcohol or some other substance and they know it? What if an individual knows that no substance whatsoever is to enter their body that would adversely affect it, yet they do it anyway? I know a good bit about sin and ways to detect it, but how does one go about stopping when they know that is what is asked of them. Surely God is a God of mercy and grace, but how long, how many times will God excuse one who willingly goes against God's will?

Sorry, probably all over the place. Just wanted some opinions from others.

Thanks
Peace,
All thanks and praise is to GOD, through Christ, blessed be his name.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Will power alone is not enough. It takes the power of the Holy Ghost to stop habitual sin. It has to be turned over to His power.

 

[Lamb]

So I know drinking and other things are permissible to those in pain and sorrow, but what of those who have no excuse? What if one is actively killing themself with alcohol or some other substance and they know it? What if an individual knows that no substance whatsoever is to enter their body that would adversely affect it, yet they do it anyway? I know a good bit about sin and ways to detect it, but how does one go about stopping when they know that is what is asked of them. Surely God is a God of mercy and grace, but how long, how many times will God excuse one who willingly goes against God's will?

Sorry, probably all over the place. Just wanted some opinions from others.

Thanks
Peace,
All thanks and praise is to GOD, through Christ, blessed be his name.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

When people see others with addictions they automatically assume that God isn't there helping that person. We don't get to see the small changes in their lives. We can't assume that the person has turned away from God and we shouldn't ever think that God has turned away from him since God tells us He will be with us always.

It's difficult for people with addictions and yes, sometimes God will change them in an instant. Sometimes a lifetime and He still hasn't finished with that clay. That's just how it is, God's timing. We look forward to the resurrection where we all have new bodies and life eternal.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Will power alone is not enough. It takes the power of the Holy Ghost to stop habitual sin. It has to be turned over to His power.

Yes I know. I'm talking about when it weighs on your heart and still you can't seem to stop.

I was saved, about five years ago and with that newness of life I was drastically changed in many ways. Addiction from a certain substance was removed from me along with other very big deals. But now five years after the fact I fight to stop cigarettes, pot, and another habit that doesn't have anything to do with a substance, but still has to do with an addiction of sorts. I have severe COPD at age 35, and a giant cell tumor that keeps my right arm on. I have had a biopsy on the tumor, and excessive scar tissue in my lungs, making me a prime candidate for metastasis into my lungs. Smoke, of any sort is literally killing me. The marijuana works as an expectorant, but it would be better for me if I stopped all together. I am consciously sinning against the will of GOD and know it to be the case for multiple reasons. You would think that someone who stopped some really bad addictions before would be able to stop something that is obviously killing them, especially if they had been saved from something similar in the past. But here I set. With so much shame that I usually fall into a depression that rivals that of times past.

Just looking for opinions,
Thanks
Peace
All praise and thanks are to GOD regardless of my trials. May the Lord strengthen me for His will.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Full O Beans]

Yes I know. I'm talking about when it weighs on your heart and still you can't seem to stop.

I was saved, about five years ago and with that newness of life I was drastically changed in many ways. Addiction from a certain substance was removed from me along with other very big deals. But now five years after the fact I fight to stop cigarettes, pot, and another habit that doesn't have anything to do with a substance, but still has to do with an addiction of sorts. I have severe COPD at age 35, and a giant cell tumor that keeps my right arm on. I have had a biopsy on the tumor, and excessive scar tissue in my lungs, making me a prime candidate for metastasis into my lungs. Smoke, of any sort is literally killing me. The marijuana works as an expectorant, but it would be better for me if I stopped all together. I am consciously sinning against the will of GOD and know it to be the case for multiple reasons. You would think that someone who stopped some really bad addictions before would be able to stop something that is obviously killing them, especially if they had been saved from something similar in the past. But here I set. With so much shame that I usually fall into a depression that rivals that of times past.

Just looking for opinions,
Thanks
Peace
All praise and thanks are to GOD regardless of my trials. May the Lord strengthen me for His will.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

I am so sorry for your struggle! What a heavy thing for you! Have you ever learned about spiritual strongholds? This is what you are describing. Some things attach to our lives and need to be dealt with more harshly and directly for us to break free of them. Ask the Lord to show you what the root is, and then when He does, you can renounce it and ask Holy Spirit to move in and heal that area and set you free from it. He will. I will add the strength of praying for you in this. God promises freedom for us in all areas, and His healing is ours by faith.


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[Brighten04]

Yes I know. I'm talking about when it weighs on your heart and still you can't seem to stop.

I was saved, about five years ago and with that newness of life I was drastically changed in many ways. Addiction from a certain substance was removed from me along with other very big deals. But now five years after the fact I fight to stop cigarettes, pot, and another habit that doesn't have anything to do with a substance, but still has to do with an addiction of sorts. I have severe COPD at age 35, and a giant cell tumor that keeps my right arm on. I have had a biopsy on the tumor, and excessive scar tissue in my lungs, making me a prime candidate for metastasis into my lungs. Smoke, of any sort is literally killing me. The marijuana works as an expectorant, but it would be better for me if I stopped all together. I am consciously sinning against the will of GOD and know it to be the case for multiple reasons. You would think that someone who stopped some really bad addictions before would be able to stop something that is obviously killing them, especially if they had been saved from something similar in the past. But here I set. With so much shame that I usually fall into a depression that rivals that of times past.

Just looking for opinions,
Thanks
Peace
All praise and thanks are to GOD regardless of my trials. May the Lord strengthen me for His will.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Sounds like you have some strongholds. Did you know that Addiction is a strongman? You will have to bind the strong man in the name of Jesus so you can kick him out of your temple. He has a buddy there with him,so you will have to identify his accomplice and bind him also in the name of Jesus. You have the authority you need in the Holy Ghost. But watch your heart, it will betray you.
Especially if you are in love with what you are doing. Now you have confessed the sin here. Now turn your back on it by speaking a rebuke in the name of Jesus. It will not leave if your heart embraces it now. So, you have to hate it. Then turn it over to Jesus and ask Him to cleanse you of all unrighteousness.
Speak this word in prayer.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

[visionary]

It is the drink for those who are lost. Save them then the need for the solace in the bottle is gone.

Proverbs 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Never heard of spiritual strongholds. Is that in scripture?

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Brighten04]

Here is some scripture that Lord Jesus spoke when casting out spirits.

Matthew 12:29
Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

Luke 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

The stronger is the Holy Spirit. Now brother you have to go to WAR!:star wars duel:

2 Cor.10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

Eph. 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Do you pray in the Spirit brother?

 

[popsthebuilder]

Here is some scripture that Lord Jesus spoke when casting out spirits.

Matthew 12:29
Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

Luke 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

The stronger is the Holy Spirit. Now brother you have to go to WAR!:star wars duel:

2 Cor.10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

Eph. 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Do you pray in the Spirit brother?

What do you mean do I pray in the spirit?

I pray at least twice a day in solitude sometimes out loud and sometimes silently, always with thanks humility and Faith. I pray for gods will and thank him for everything. I ask for him to give me strength if it is his will, and thank him for the trials, chastisement, and also many other things. I literally only want to do the will of GOD, but find myself doing the will of the flesh knowingly. It's not ignorance anymore, and seems to me to be the biggest sin I could possibly do. This brings me quite low, yet here I set. I have faith, patience , and try to have perseverance, knowing that all is by God's will and time, but don't get why I know of my sin yet can't stop.

I know God won't put me through things I cannot handle, and I'm pretty tough, but in this case it seems to me that God wants me to stand and fight, but all fight has seemingly left the building.

Thanks for the verses.

I'm not giving up, I never will. Nor will I ever turn from GOD(at least no more than I seem to now). I just really can't stand myself right now. I have faith, and patience, and will prevail by God's will. Perhaps he tests me to such limits for a reason. I'll leave it at that.

Thanks again.

 

[Brighten04]

What do you mean do I pray in the spirit?

I pray at least twice a day in solitude sometimes out loud and sometimes silently, always with thanks humility and Faith. I pray for gods will and thank him for everything. I ask for him to give me strength if it is his will, and thank him for the trials, chastisement, and also many other things. I literally only want to do the will of GOD, but find myself doing the will of the flesh knowingly. It's not ignorance anymore, and seems to me to be the biggest sin I could possibly do. This brings me quite low, yet here I set. I have faith, patience , and try to have perseverance, knowing that all is by God's will and time, but don't get why I know of my sin yet can't stop.

I know God won't put me through things I cannot handle, and I'm pretty tough, but in this case it seems to me that God wants me to stand and fight, but all fight has seemingly left the building.

Thanks for the verses.

I'm not giving up, I never will. Nor will I ever turn from GOD(at least no more than I seem to now). I just really can't stand myself right now. I have faith, and patience, and will prevail by God's will. Perhaps he tests me to such limits for a reason. I'll leave it at that.

Thanks again.

I mean do you pray in tongues. If not you can still groan in the Spirit in prayer. But you are fighting powerful enemies. I did identify another accomplice. Infirmity, that is a strongman too. Here is scripture how Lord Jesus dealt with him.

Luke 13:11 And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.

12 And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity.

13 And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.

Know that it is our Father's will to heal you and don't tack on the "if it is your will" when you are praying. That nullifies your prayer of faith. Do you go to church meeting?

 

[popsthebuilder]

I mean do you pray in tongues. If not you can still groan in the Spirit in prayer. But you are fighting powerful enemies. I did identify another accomplice. Infirmity, that is a strongman too. Here is scripture how Lord Jesus dealt with him.

Luke 13:11 And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.

12 And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity.

13 And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.

Know that it is our Father's will to heal you and don't tack on the "if it is your will" when you are praying. That nullifies your prayer of faith. Do you go to church meeting?

You might find this strange but when I go to church's and feel a connection, I am often brought to tears. Not sobbing, but tears will flow freely down my face. I'm not a member of any church and this thing causes disturbance, and I'm sort of ashamed of it. So I don't go too often.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Alithis]

The lord jesus can and it is his will to set you free.
Addictions are so often..well ..i will pm you later. Freedom and healing for you are nigh..just as the word of God is true .

 

[Brighten04]

You might find this strange but when I go to church's and feel a connection, I am often brought to tears. Not sobbing, but tears will flow freely down my face. I'm not a member of any church and this thing causes disturbance, and I'm sort of ashamed of it. So I don't go too often.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Yes that happens a lot when you are sensitive to the Presence. Are you embarrassed because you are worried about what others might say? If that is so, you should attend a church that understands that kind of thing. Your tears express your spirit's worship and it is perfectly alright. Everyone does not express worship in the same way. Go to a Pentecostal or Non-denominational church where spiritual expression is allowed and encouraged.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes that happens a lot when you are sensitive to the Presence. Are you embarrassed because you are worried about what others might say? If that is so, you should attend a church that understands that kind of thing. Your tears express your spirit's worship and it is perfectly alright. Everyone does not express worship in the same way. Go to a Pentecostal or Non-denominational church where spiritual expression is allowed and encouraged.

Yes each of us is different in how the spirit affects us