Does TV and film invade your thoughts and lead you astray?

[MoreCoffee]

So many TV shows and so many films contain ideas and scenes that ought to be repugnant to a Christian's moral sense and conscience that it is a wonder to me that TVs are so common among Christians and that children in Christian homes are sometimes left to be entertained by TV ... what are your thoughts on this?

 

[Lamb]

New Girl and Two Broke Girls both have indicate that society thinks casual sex is okay and that really bothers me.

 

[psalms 91]

society has not had a peoblm with that for a long time, there is getting to be a bigger divide between what the word says and what culture accepts. Sadly a lot of it has come into the church

 

[MoreCoffee]

society has not had a problem with that for a long time, there is getting to be a bigger divide between what the word says and what culture accepts. Sadly a lot of it has come into the church

Do you think it comes into church through TV exposure by the people who go to the meetings?

 

[psalms 91]

For many reasons that being one. It is also a letting down of what we believe so socirty will accept us and you can see where that has led the church and society in general. Its sad that with the state of this nation people are still defiant and refuse to see how far we have falllen. Abortion is a good issue to see this. We have many christians that accept this now as ok and its not, it is murder. Can Gods word be any clearer? It states that He knew us before we were in the womb, it also states that God has a plan for us, each and every one of us. This nation is being judged and people dont even realize it, it is just luck or fate or whatever off the wall thing they care to believe in at the time

 

[MoreCoffee]

For many reasons that being one. It is also a letting down of what we believe so society will accept us and you can see where that has led the church and society in general. Its sad that with the state of this nation people are still defiant and refuse to see how far we have fallen. Abortion is a good issue to see this. We have many christians that accept this now as ok and its not, it is murder. Can Gods word be any clearer? It states that He knew us before we were in the womb, it also states that God has a plan for us, each and every one of us. This nation is being judged and people don't even realize it, it is just luck or fate or whatever off the wall thing they care to believe in at the time

Do you think that the elders and pastor of these churches ought to discipline people engaging in flagrant immorality when they become aware of it? If so what sort of discipline ought they apply? Is it possible that some leaders are afraid of the consequences if they do discipline?

 

[psalms 91]

Do you think that the elders and pastor of these churches ought to discipline people engaging in flagrant immorality when they become aware of it? If so what sort of discipline ought they apply? Is it possible that some leaders are afraid of the consequences if they do discipline?

Of course they should but only after the person has an opportunity to deal with it and as to how the bible is clear on that. But it must be done in love and only with facts, not gossip or innuendo

 

[MoreCoffee]

Of course they should but only after the person has an opportunity to deal with it and as to how the bible is clear on that. But it must be done in love and only with facts, not gossip or innuendo

Assuming all that and that the people concerned have - for example - committed either adultery or fornication because they both cohabit and have relations yet are not married should the pastor and/or the elders exercise discipline and if so what kind of discipline?

 

[psalms 91]

Assuming all that and that the people concerned have - for example - committed either adultery or fornication because they both cohabit and have relations yet are not married should the pastor and/or the elders exercise discipline and if so what kind of discipline?

Biblical disipline, does not the bible tell us how to deal with brothers and sisters? Yopu go to them two or three and it goes from there depending on the response. If still unbelievers then it is just counseling because presumably they are not members of the church

 

[MoreCoffee]

Biblical discipline, does not the bible tell us how to deal with brothers and sisters? You go to them two or three and it goes from there depending on the response. If still unbelievers then it is just counselling because presumably they are not members of the church

Are you thinking of this passage?

"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
(Matthew 18:15-20)

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, that is church discipline as it was meant to be

 

[MoreCoffee]

Yes, that is church discipline as it was meant to be

What exactly is the discipline that is applied or would you rather not say?

 

[psalms 91]

What exactly is the discipline that is applied or would you rather not say?

On what basis? I am not sure I understand the question. Noone I know of uses this but it is what was laid out to be church discipline

 

[MoreCoffee]

On what basis? I am not sure I understand the question. No one I know of uses this but it is what was laid out to be church discipline

oh. okay. nobody you know does it.

 

[psalms 91]

The one church I go to has used this only to the point of talking to the person and is the only time I have ever known it to be used. Whether it is or not it is the biblical basis for all chruch discipline, not using it does not excuse it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

The one church I go to has used this only to the point of talking to the person and is the only time I have ever known it to be used. Whether it is or not it is the biblical basis for all church discipline, not using it does not excuse it.

Okay, I saw that when you first said it. I was curious to know how discipline occurred in Word of Faith meetings. In the Catholic Church there have been some recent excommunications that received public news reports and occasionally the news reports on various forms of Church discipline applied within the Catholic Church to high profile people. Of course, what the Catholic Church does is often thwarted by the person being disciplined simply renouncing their Catholic faith and joining a more accommodating religion.

 

[psalms 91]

Okay, I saw that when you first said it. I was curious to know how discipline occurred in Word of Faith meetings. In the Catholic Church there have been some recent excommunications that received public news reports and occasionally the news reports on various forms of Church discipline applied within the Catholic Church to high profile people. Of course, what the Catholic Church does is often thwarted by the person being disciplined simply renouncing their Catholic faith and joining a more accommodating religion.

Dont disagree with this and while Word of Faith I am also charasmatic and pentecostal thuis a non denom chruch, I also belong to and go to a Methodist church. While each church of faith sets its own rules and follows its dictates I think the Catholic church needs to allow its priests to marry and then it might not have some of the problems it does. If my understanding is correct theyw ere alolowed to marry for a long time till it was forbidden

 

[MoreCoffee]

Dont disagree with this and while Word of Faith I am also charismatic and pentecostal thus a non denom church, I also belong to and go to a Methodist church. While each church of faith sets its own rules and follows its dictates I think the Catholic church needs to allow its priests to marry and then it might not have some of the problems it does. If my understanding is correct they ere allowed to marry for a long time till it was forbidden

Let's not get into stereotypes about celibacy among Latin rite priests. Catholic priests in numerous Eastern rites do marry if they want (provided that they marry before becoming priests). The truth is that no person is forbidden marriage because no person is compelled to take a vow of celibacy unless they desire to do so because they want to be a monk, nun, sister, or priest etcetera. Such vocations are voluntary and one needs to be called to it both by the Church and by personal conviction that God has called you to that role within the Church. Complaining about priestly celibacy in the Latin rite of the Catholic Church is akin to complaining that Pentecostal pastors ought to speak in tongues. Anyway I reckon that this is getting away from the influence of TV on Christians ...

 

[pinacled]

Yes, most programming has become a tool to influence many. Multiple forms of media has been used under the guise of entertainment.

 

[psalms 91]

Let's not get into stereotypes about celibacy among Latin rite priests. Catholic priests in numerous Eastern rites do marry if they want (provided that they marry before becoming priests). The truth is that no person is forbidden marriage because no person is compelled to take a vow of celibacy unless they desire to do so because they want to be a monk, nun, sister, or priest etcetera. Such vocations are voluntary and one needs to be called to it both by the Church and by personal conviction that God has called you to that role within the Church. Complaining about priestly celibacy in the Latin rite of the Catholic Church is akin to complaining that Pentecostal pastors ought to speak in tongues. Anyway I reckon that this is getting away from the influence of TV on Christians ...

Ok obviously TV has a huge influence on people as most do watch and a lotofpeople watch a lot of tv