Music ... can it be Christian?

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I like to listen to Handel's Messiah and many Mozart compositions. Some people like Hillsong songs. Many enjoy hymns. Do you think that music can be specifically Christian and if so why? What do you like to listen to?

Music is God's creation, and it is created to bring glory to Him, but it has been usurped by Satan, so music that glorifies God is all I choose to enjoy. We are to take back what the enemy has stolen for his purposes and return the glory to God with it, as it is meant to do.
 

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I guess many who write music and perform music are Christian and some of their beliefs come out in their music. This song may not seem Christian but it says he believes in the Lord and he has found meaning.

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Music is God's creation, and it is created to bring glory to Him, but it has been usurped by Satan, so music that glorifies God is all I choose to enjoy. We are to take back what the enemy has stolen for his purposes and return the glory to God with it, as it is meant to do.

Can you be more specific here?

How do you believe we should take back what has been stolen?
 

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Notes from a message from one of my pastors:

MUSIC AND ITS INFLUENCE IN OUR LIVES

We have a desire to change our lifestyle when we come to Christ and seek a deeper relationship with Him, but sometimes we don’t know how. In the encounter (this is the first weekend encounter we experience at Living Hope) we are taught about the influence of secular music over our lives. For many, music is their main hobby, and it’s hard for us to imagine how to handle this aspect now that we are believers. Music was created by God, but twisted by Satan to deceive many, and to steal the worship that only God deserves. We have to keep in mind the fact that we have music in each part of our body: breathing, in our heartbeat, in each molecule of our being. Because we have music within us, we are attracted to different melodies and rhythms. It is natural to us because God created us that way.

We can’t forbid ourselves to listen to music, but we do have to know how to use it in a way that won’t bring us negative consequences. Music will influence our behaviour. For example, people with nervous disorders or with hyperactive children can play soft music to calm them and to reduce anxiety. Frequently we move our feet, fingers, or head to the rhythms that we listen to, and we unconsciously sing songs that we may not even like! We do it because that song sticks in our minds.

THE ENEMY’S PLAN THROUGH MUSIC

Satan made a plan to get inside our minds and hearts through music, so that he can control our behaviours, and rule our lives. Then he is able to lead us to his original purpose of destruction and death, both physically and spiritually. Satan wants to steal everything that we love…our families, feelings, friends, and finally ourselves as people.

John 10:10…
The thief comes only to steal, to kill and to destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.


SATAN’S PURPOSES FOR MUSIC

TO STEAL GOD’S PRAISE AND THE ABUNDANT LIFE OF THE NEW BELIEVER

Satan will steal the honour and worship that belongs only to God, by getting us to sing and dance to melodies that glorify the enemy. These songs have direct messages that proclaim sins that God hates, such as fornication, adultery, sexual sins, unforgiveness, and revenge. This is how he steals the souls of God’s followers, and takes away the abundant life that Jesus made possible on the cross.

When we sing songs with messages such as, “feel me, please me”, we put words and pictures in our minds that will awaken our flesh, our passions, and sexual sins, with the goal of making us slaves to sin again. In my experience, I have seen that the person that can’t renounce secular music still has the world in his heart, and that person’s Lord is not God, but music. It is our responsibility to watch ourselves…to evaluate if what we sing or what we are filling our minds with would be the same thing that Jesus would fill His life with if He were in our place.

Luke 11:23
He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me, scatters. (Scatters away from the Truth and also leads others away from Truth)

Once a young girl began to walk with God. She went to an encounter weekend and saw God’s power in her life which helped her quit everything that was not beneficial to her life, such as secular music and a boyfriend who would constantly call her when he was drunk. In spite of this, she allowed certain kinds of freedoms for herself with secular music, especially the dance kind. This caused hr to re-enter her old lifestyle, once again awakening in her the desire for parties with her old friends, her old boyfriend and other things that didn’t please God. Her end was very sad. She ended up without God, without a boyfriend, and with a son who had no father. This young lady wasted her life and destroyed God’s plan for her life. She made music and her boyfriend her god.

IT WILL DESTROY THE LIVES OF ITS FOLLOWERS

Music has the power to destroy its listeners. Mick Jagger, the “Lucifer of Rock”, said, “We always work to lead peoples’ minds and wills. The majority of other groups do the same.” In concerts, people are led through music to do things that they wouldn’t normally do. Young people, for example, will strip themselves naked, or will have sex, or do drugs, or engage in violent acts. Not only does it affect their actions, but also it makes them feel depressed, like failures, and lonely, discontent and suicidal.

IT SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY KILLS ITS FOLLOWERS

The person who spends the entire day listening to secular music feels the desire to do what he listens to. If he listens to music that speaks about things that can’t be, sadness, frustration, and the pain that life has given him, he will end up depressed, bitter, drinking, or committing suicide.

I know a case of a young high school student who lived with his brothers. He had very bad friends. One day he began to feel a deep loneliness. He began to attend rock concerts where young people fought and did drugs. After a period of time, this young boy said to his family that he had made a serious commitment, and without any explanation, he shot himself the next day. The enemy accomplishes his plan of killing those who fall into his trap by convincing them to end their lives and by killing the hope in them of ever finding a better life. He takes us to a place of torment where we can never leave!

Many believers fall into Satan’s trap. They think that they are strong enough to resist temptation. They think that they can rule their lives, but they end up slaves of their pasts (alcohol, illicit sex, violence, and evil) just like all the rest. They become sons of the devil, and they lose the life that Jesus gave them on the cross. God wants to give us abundant life. You can experience it when you fill your mind with things that edify and build you up. Music should bring you comfort, peace, bring you closer to God, and make you a better person.

CHRISTIAN MUSIC IS A TRANSMITTER OF LIFE

TRANSMITS PEACE AND CALMS YOUR SPIRIT

Music influences our emotions and our mood…what we listen to will determine our thoughts, actions and attitudes. King Saul, for example, when he stopped walking with God, lost his protection and an evil spirit came over him to torment him. Only when David played music for him did he feel any relief, as the evil spirit would leave him. (1Samuel 16:23) When we play Christian music, we release the presence of God over our lives and our home. We cast out every spirit so that we can feel the peace of the presence of God. Just like Saul, music can have a good influence, and we will feel better.


IT’S A USEFUL TOOL TO WIN SOULS

There is some excellent Christian music out there… music that is pleasant to the ear, and is also a positive influence. We can share this music with non-believers, because its quality is as good if not better than that of secular music. It is an eye-opener to those who believe that Christian music is boring or mediocre. God is the God of excellence!

In 1996, the sports arena in Bogota, Colombia hosted a Christian group called Petra. As they did a presentation with the objective of evangelizing and showing the world a different musical alternative, the impact in those who attended, including the media, was strong! There were positive comments made about the quality of Petra’s music, and the spirit moved in the concert and there was a distinctly felt peace. After the concert, more than 800 people accepted Christ.

IT TRANSMITS MESSAGES THAT EDIFY

1Corinthians 6:12
Everything is permissible for me, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.

When we choose our music, we must choose those messages that make you feel better as a person, bringing you confidence, giving you strength, and drawing you close to God with its music and lyrics.


HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH MUSIC NOW THAT YOU’RE A CHRISTIAN?

1. Don’t allow small compromises with secular music. You will be easily trapped by it.
2. Determine to think on other things when you have to listen to secular music.
3. Don’t listen to music that will bring memories of the past that can take you back to your old practices. It brings a grieving or an unhealthy nostalgia where you could easily glory in past sin.
4. Do things before God, keeping transparency in every area. Be conscious that the Holy Spirit sees all things, and He is there to help you be faithful.
5. When you don’t want to contaminate your heart, speak in other tongues in your mind, memorize Bible verses, and think on the good thing that god has given you or others. These things will edify you.
6. Destroy the music that made you a slave to sin in the past. Believe that God is powerful, and that He can give you much more than all we can ask or understand!
7. Buy good Christian music, according to your taste, and listen to Christian radio stations.

Acts 19:19…
A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls the total came to fifty thousand drachmas.
 

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MY NOTES:
Recommended book to read: “The Rebirth of Music”, by Lamar Boschman ISBN 0914903802

1. The first musician: Lucifer
Ezekiel 28:12b-18, Isaiah 14:11-14
- He was extremely beautiful
- He was an angel of music…tambourines, pipes and 6-stringed harps were built into his body.
- He was the worship leader (the cherub that covers)
- Responsible that there was a continual worship and praise before the Throne.
- Led angels in constant praise and worship
- Any other reason for music was an abomination…a violation. Music was only to glorify God.
2. The fall of Lucifer
- His pride: Isaiah 14:12-14 (“ I will…”)
- Cast out of heaven: Isaiah 14:15
- Ezekiel 28:14-19
- Music fell as well, and became secular at hat time. He began to create music for himself, and for his own glory. Revelation 12:7-9
3. The spirit of Pride
- Proverbs 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; 29:23; Isaiah 2:17
4. Music and the spiritual realm: Affects our spirit
a. Satanic Influence: John 4:24; John 8:44
- Just as the Holy Spirit falls upon us in worship, so the devil can cause an evil unction to fall on us in secular music. It is not a counterfeit, but real and powerful.
- John 10:10: He comes to steal, kill and destroy (all with lies)...that is his manifesto

b. Music and God’s Presence:
- Psalms 100:2; 95: 2; 100:4; 22:3
- We are to approach God with worship, adoration and praise.
5. What kind of music should a Christian listen to?
- Listen to music that has a different spirit and a different purpose! Music that leads to and celebrates life and hope!
- 3 types of songs: 1. Songs of the World: Pretty love songs, Nothing wrong with them—expressing love and admiration for a person or objects on a natural level.
2. Songs of the Flesh: Lust or dirty
3. Songs of the Devil: Dark, evil, blasphemic, exalting Lucifer, death, suicide and murder…1 John 2:16-17; Proverbs 23:7

6. Questions to consider when choosing music to listen to:
a. What is the spirit behind the song?
b. Who or what does it exalt? The world? The flesh? The devil? Jesus?
c. Does it edify the believer? Philippians 4:8
Make a choice to have a positive answer to all questions!

Acts 19:19
Deuteronomy 7:26
 

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(I've cut your post from the quote to avoid overrunning the character limit)

When we sing songs with messages such as, “feel me, please me”, we put words and pictures in our minds that will awaken our flesh, our passions, and sexual sins, with the goal of making us slaves to sin again. In my experience, I have seen that the person that can’t renounce secular music still has the world in his heart, and that person’s Lord is not God, but music. It is our responsibility to watch ourselves…to evaluate if what we sing or what we are filling our minds with would be the same thing that Jesus would fill His life with if He were in our place.

This might be based on a few individuals but to say it's universal seems a bit excessive.

Once a young girl began to walk with God. She went to an encounter weekend and saw God’s power in her life which helped her quit everything that was not beneficial to her life, such as secular music and a boyfriend who would constantly call her when he was drunk. In spite of this, she allowed certain kinds of freedoms for herself with secular music, especially the dance kind. This caused hr to re-enter her old lifestyle, once again awakening in her the desire for parties with her old friends, her old boyfriend and other things that didn’t please God. Her end was very sad. She ended up without God, without a boyfriend, and with a son who had no father. This young lady wasted her life and destroyed God’s plan for her life. She made music and her boyfriend her god.

She did all that because music somehow made her do it? Wow. This is no different from the "heavy metal is evil" rants from the 80s.

IT WILL DESTROY THE LIVES OF ITS FOLLOWERS

Music has the power to destroy its listeners. Mick Jagger, the “Lucifer of Rock”, said, “We always work to lead peoples’ minds and wills. The majority of other groups do the same.” In concerts, people are led through music to do things that they wouldn’t normally do. Young people, for example, will strip themselves naked, or will have sex, or do drugs, or engage in violent acts. Not only does it affect their actions, but also it makes them feel depressed, like failures, and lonely, discontent and suicidal.

It's been a while since I was a young person but I don't think I saw anyone do any of those things under the influence of music.

The person who spends the entire day listening to secular music feels the desire to do what he listens to. If he listens to music that speaks about things that can’t be, sadness, frustration, and the pain that life has given him, he will end up depressed, bitter, drinking, or committing suicide.

Really? Maybe this is based on anecdata as well.

I know a case of a young high school student who lived with his brothers. He had very bad friends. One day he began to feel a deep loneliness. He began to attend rock concerts where young people fought and did drugs. After a period of time, this young boy said to his family that he had made a serious commitment, and without any explanation, he shot himself the next day. The enemy accomplishes his plan of killing those who fall into his trap by convincing them to end their lives and by killing the hope in them of ever finding a better life. He takes us to a place of torment where we can never leave!

Ah yes, the old "rock music is evil" line again. This sort of reasoning is flawed because it makes no attempt to determine which is cause and which is effect. It's easy to look at things at face value and conclude "rock music caused his suicide" but maybe he was looking for a place to belong and merely found one particular place where he felt he could belong. Either way it's folly to build a theology on a few isolated examples.

Many believers fall into Satan’s trap. They think that they are strong enough to resist temptation. They think that they can rule their lives, but they end up slaves of their pasts (alcohol, illicit sex, violence, and evil) just like all the rest. They become sons of the devil, and they lose the life that Jesus gave them on the cross. God wants to give us abundant life. You can experience it when you fill your mind with things that edify and build you up. Music should bring you comfort, peace, bring you closer to God, and make you a better person.

How exactly does music make someone a better person? It might uplift us, it might make us feel happy or sad or buzzed or angry or all sorts of things, but unless we choose to act on those feelings it has no consequences.

Music influences our emotions and our mood…what we listen to will determine our thoughts, actions and attitudes. King Saul, for example, when he stopped walking with God, lost his protection and an evil spirit came over him to torment him. Only when David played music for him did he feel any relief, as the evil spirit would leave him. (1Samuel 16:23) When we play Christian music, we release the presence of God over our lives and our home. We cast out every spirit so that we can feel the peace of the presence of God. Just like Saul, music can have a good influence, and we will feel better.

How would you define "Christian music"?

I quite like bands like Deliverance, Believer etc. They are Christian bands who play thrash metal. My wife hates them. Saying we "release the presence of God" sounds like God is some kind of formulaic being that we can summon any time we choose.

There is some excellent Christian music out there… music that is pleasant to the ear, and is also a positive influence. We can share this music with non-believers, because its quality is as good if not better than that of secular music. It is an eye-opener to those who believe that Christian music is boring or mediocre. God is the God of excellence!

Some Christian music is as good as secular music. Some of it just isn't, some of it appears to be little more than poorly made rubbish packaged up with a Christian label in the hope that churches will pay over the odds for it to "support the cause".

In 1996, the sports arena in Bogota, Colombia hosted a Christian group called Petra. As they did a presentation with the objective of evangelizing and showing the world a different musical alternative, the impact in those who attended, including the media, was strong! There were positive comments made about the quality of Petra’s music, and the spirit moved in the concert and there was a distinctly felt peace. After the concert, more than 800 people accepted Christ.

Some of Petra's music is pretty good, if you like that sort of thing. I must admit I'm generally uninterested in claims of how many people "accepted Christ" at a concert, simply because I've been to concerts where it was easier to count the people who didn't go forward than the people who did and having gone forward at one such concert myself there was no followup whatsoever and it didn't take me long to conclude I'd been sold a pig in a poke.

When we choose our music, we must choose those messages that make you feel better as a person, bringing you confidence, giving you strength, and drawing you close to God with its music and lyrics.

That's not a bad objective at all but I wouldn't say it's as simple as "Christian music is good because it does those things". I find some Christian music truly awful to listen to.

1. Don’t allow small compromises with secular music. You will be easily trapped by it.
2. Determine to think on other things when you have to listen to secular music.
3. Don’t listen to music that will bring memories of the past that can take you back to your old practices. It brings a grieving or an unhealthy nostalgia where you could easily glory in past sin.

These are alarmist at best, if we wanted to take this kind of reasoning to its logical conclusion we'd struggle to do much of anything in case it brought back memories of the past. There's one particular song that will instantly transport me back to my university days, because I guy I knew played it all the time. It's a secular track, it does me no harm and about all it reminds me of is the corridor I lived on that year.

4. Do things before God, keeping transparency in every area. Be conscious that the Holy Spirit sees all things, and He is there to help you be faithful.

Can't argue with that, even if it is generic enough not to be specifically applicable to music.

5. When you don’t want to contaminate your heart, speak in other tongues in your mind, memorize Bible verses, and think on the good thing that god has given you or others. These things will edify you.

All well and good, if you have the gift of tongues.

6. Destroy the music that made you a slave to sin in the past. Believe that God is powerful, and that He can give you much more than all we can ask or understand!
7. Buy good Christian music, according to your taste, and listen to Christian radio stations.

I don't believe God needs me to destroy every secular CD I ever bought. When I became a Christian I destroyed a couple of CDs (one by Venom, the other by Morbid Angel) because it was pretty clear they were totally incompatible with my new walk. I don't feel any need to destroy my other CDs.

Acts 19:19…
A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly. When they calculated the value of the scrolls the total came to fifty thousand drachmas.
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There's quite a difference between scrolls associated with sorcery and music that sings "Ooh, ah, just a little bit".
 

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I have watched this thread with some interest. I was taught music appreciation from a very early age and I grew to like all types of music, but not all music is good music. My music instructor taught us that music is the universal language. As far as whether music is Christian, imho music was created by God. Now of course music can be used for evil, but that is like anything else. But the question is whether music in and of itself is Christian. It can be. It is like the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The tree itself was neither good nor evil it just was. Music just is. To try to hang a label on it somehow robs it of it's majesty. I like all types of music. I have heard some secular songs that I sing in praise to our Father in Heaven. But that is just me.Songs like Because You Loved Me by Celine Dion and You Make Me Feel Brand New by the Stylistics are beautiful songs that I sing to our Lord to express my love and appreciation for His love. That may sound all mushy but I am home alone with Him for most of my days so I talk to Him, and sing to Him and sometimes the songs that come up are not always "Christian" songs.Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and my spirit is singing a cantata like Night Of Miracles. So music imho can be Christian if your heart is focused on lifting the Savior up, and that is expressed differently by different people.
 

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Listen to this and say if it is Christian music or not.

 

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