Did the Catholic Church change the sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday?

[YESLORDIWILL]

The Catholic Church did not change the day on which the Sabbath falls. That's a Seventh Day Adventist myth that others from messianic groups seem willing to swallow. The Catholic Church teaches that the Sabbath day never changed. I'd quote from the Catechism of the Catholic Church and from the 16th century Roman Catechism and even from the early Church fathers to support my statement but I doubt anybody would read it. The bizarre claims will just continue because those who make them have no love for the truth.

I'd read it, Coffee... I love to learn new things :•)

 

[MoreCoffee]

I'd read it, Coffee... I love to learn new things :•)

Okay. Here's a section from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Article 3

THE THIRD COMMANDMENT

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labour, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work.90

The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath; so the Son of Man is lord even of the sabbath.91

90 ⇒ Ex 20:8-10; cf. ⇒ Deut 5:12-15.
91 ⇒ Mk 2:27-28.​

I. The Sabbath Day

2168 The third commandment of the Decalogue recalls the holiness of the sabbath: "The seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the LORD."92

2169 In speaking of the sabbath Scripture recalls creation: "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it."93

2170 Scripture also reveals in the Lord's day a memorial of Israel's liberation from bondage in Egypt: "You shall remember that you were a servant in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out thence with mighty hand and outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day."94

2171 God entrusted the sabbath to Israel to keep as a sign of the irrevocable covenant.95 The sabbath is for the Lord, holy and set apart for the praise of God, his work of creation, and his saving actions on behalf of Israel.

2172 God's action is the model for human action. If God "rested and was refreshed" on the seventh day, man too ought to "rest" and should let others, especially the poor, "be refreshed."96 The sabbath brings everyday work to a halt and provides a respite. It is a day of protest against the servitude of work and the worship of money.97

2173 The Gospel reports many incidents when Jesus was accused of violating the sabbath law. But Jesus never fails to respect the holiness of this day.98 He gives this law its authentic and authoritative interpretation: "The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."99 With compassion, Christ declares the sabbath for doing good rather than harm, for saving life rather than killing.100 The sabbath is the day of the Lord of mercies and a day to honor God.101 "The Son of Man is lord even of the sabbath."102

92 ⇒ Ex 31:15.
93 ⇒ Ex 20:11.
94 ⇒ Deut 5:15.
95 Cf. ⇒ Ex 31:16.
96 ⇒ Ex 31:17; cf. ⇒ 23:12.
97 Cf. ⇒ Neh 13:15-22; ⇒ 2 Chr 36:21.
98 Cf. ⇒ Mk 1:21; ⇒ Jn 9:16.
99 ⇒ Mk 2:27.
100 Cf. ⇒ Mk 3:4[ETML:C/].
101 Cf. ⇒ Mt 12:5; ⇒ Jn 7:23.
102 ⇒ Mk 2:28.​

II. The Lord's Day

This is the day which the LORD has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it.103

The day of the Resurrection: the new creation

2174 Jesus rose from the dead "on the first day of the week."104 Because it is the "first day," the day of Christ's Resurrection recalls the first creation. Because it is the "eighth day" following the sabbath,105 it symbolizes the new creation ushered in by Christ's Resurrection. For Christians it has become the first of all days, the first of all feasts, the Lord's Day (he kuriake hemera, dies dominica) Sunday:

We all gather on the day of the sun, for it is the first day [after the Jewish sabbath, but also the first day] when God, separating matter from darkness, made the world; and on this same day Jesus Christ our Savior rose from the dead.106

Sunday - fulfilment of the sabbath

2175 Sunday is expressly distinguished from the sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the sabbath. In Christ's Passover, Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish sabbath and announces man's eternal rest in God. For worship under the Law prepared for the mystery of Christ, and what was done there prefigured some aspects of Christ:107

Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death.108

2176 The celebration of Sunday observes the moral commandment inscribed by nature in the human heart to render to God an outward, visible, public, and regular worship "as a sign of his universal beneficence to all."109 Sunday worship fulfills the moral command of the Old Covenant, taking up its rhythm and spirit in the weekly celebration of the Creator and Redeemer of his people.

103 ⇒ Ps 118:24.
104 Cf. ⇒ Mt 28:1; ⇒ Mk 16:2; ⇒ Lk 24:1; ⇒ Jn 20:1.
105 Cf. ⇒ Mk 16:1; ⇒ Mt 28:1.
106 St. Justin, I Apol. 67: PG 6, 429 and 432.
107 Cf. ⇒ 1 Cor 10:11.
108 St. Ignatius of Antioch, Ad Magn. 9, 1: SCh 10, 88.
109 St. Thomas Aquinas, STh II-II 122, 4.​

I had to cut it short because there's a size limit on posts. But I am confident you'll get the idea.

 

[psalms 91]

The Catholic Church did not change the day on which the Sabbath falls. That's a Seventh Day Adventist myth that others from messianic groups seem willing to swallow. The Catholic Church teaches that the Sabbath day never changed. I'd quote from the Catechism of the Catholic Church and from the 16th century Roman Catechism and even from the early Church fathers to support my statement but I doubt anybody would read it. The bizarre claims will just continue because those who make them have no love for the truth.

ok then you have church on Saturday as your holy day?

 

[MoreCoffee]

ok then you have church on Saturday as your holy day?

No.

 

[psalms 91]

No.

Then you are not following Gods sabbeth, most churchs dont but God never changed it

 

[MoreCoffee]

Then you are not following Gods Sabbath, most churches don't but God never changed it

That is right, I am not observing the Sabbath laws of the old covenant. The idea that I ought to as some sort of religious duty is contrary to the teaching of the new covenant.

 

[Alithis]

That is right, I am not observing the Sabbath laws of the old covenant. The idea that I ought to as some sort of religious duty is contrary to the teaching of the new covenant.

not surprising ,ya don't observe much of the new covenant either =rome made its own version .

 

[MoreCoffee]

While browsing in youtube for a clip on worship music I came across this interesting bit of information. There are several youtube videos that claim a Catholic bishop says that the Catholic Church changed the sabbath - most of these videos are from Seventh Day Adventist sources and a few are from Messianic Jewish sources. This clip is interesting in that it shows how willing folk can be to deceive just to make their spurious points seem more 'real' and ore 'true'.

 

[visionary]

Who Changed The Sabbath to Sunday?

Yeshua
Paul
??

 

[visionary]

The title of this thread could have been better worded.... Did the Catholic Church sanction Sunday worship?

Now the Scriptures alone do not contain all the truths which a Christian is bound to believe, nor do they explicitly enjoin all the duties which he is obliged to practice. Not to mention other examples, is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on that day from unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this law among the most prominent of our sacred duties? But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.

Gibbons, James. "VIII. The Church and the Bible". Faith of Our Fathers. p. 72. http://www.cathcorn.org/foof/8.html

 

[Stravinsk]

Who Changed The Sabbath to Sunday?

Yeshua
Paul
??

Was there a "Sunday" in first century? The basis of the question assumes everyone, Jew and Gentile, were operating as we do now, on a continuously cycling 7 day week where there is a definitive 1st day and 7th day.

Not even the Resurrection texts use the proper Koine Greek word for 7 or week which is what our English versions read.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes it wqas never changed by the One who instituted it thus sabbeth is still Saturday

 

[visionary]

From what I understand, the seven day cycle has not changed.

 

[Stravinsk]

Yes it wqas never changed by the One who instituted it thus sabbeth is still Saturday

From what I understand, the seven day cycle has not changed.

Visionary might remember that I brought this up on the other MB...can't remember if it was under my normal handle or another.

In speaking of Holy days, such as Sabbath falling every 7th day on a continuously cycling 7 day week, how is it that without tradition, time keeping devices and current knowledge of where one is in relation to it, that it cannot be found by nature?

The stars don't reveal it.
The sun doesn't reveal it.
The moon doesn't reveal a continuously cycling 7th day. We would have a 28 day month and a shorter year if it did.

No man who believes in a continuously cycling 7th day Sabbath could find it if stranded on a deserted island and being disoriented as to what day it is. Without a man made time keeping device he would not know, since nature doesn't reveal it at all.

 

[Lamb]

Visionary might remember that I brought this up on the other MB...can't remember if it was under my normal handle or another.

In speaking of Holy days, such as Sabbath falling every 7th day on a continuously cycling 7 day week, how is it that without tradition, time keeping devices and current knowledge of where one is in relation to it, that it cannot be found by nature?

The stars don't reveal it.
The sun doesn't reveal it.
The moon doesn't reveal a continuously cycling 7th day. We would have a 28 day month and a shorter year if it did.

No man who believes in a continuously cycling 7th day Sabbath could find it if stranded on a deserted island and being disoriented as to what day it is. Without a man made time keeping device he would not know, since nature doesn't reveal it at all.

Tradition. Yes, I never thought about it like that.

 

[psalms 91]

It is Gods sabbeth as ordained from the beginning, no tradition to it, God set it up

 

[Brighten04]

Leviticus 23:39
Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the Lord seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

Numbers 29:35
On the eighth day ye shall have a solemn assembly: ye shall do no servile work therein:

 

[MoreCoffee]

Who Changed The Sabbath to Sunday?

Yeshua
Paul
??

Nobody. Sabbath is still the 7th day. The Lord's day is Sunday.

 

[Stravinsk]

Tradition. Yes, I never thought about it like that.

I should amend my last statement, about nature not revealing a Sabbath. I actually think it does, and that it can be shown to be consistent with certain Old Testament Scriptures, but that Sabbath does not fit into a constantly cycling 7 day cycle. Other days have to be taken into account, such as New Moon days.

Ancient civilizations have long used the Moon to calculate months, and had special celebrations with relation to it's observance, including the ancient Jews. If there is anything in nature that reveals the Sabbath - it is the moon. I think it is unfortunate that many consider lunar observances somehow pagan or "occult" and dismiss it mostly or entirely on this basis, but that is partly due to the fact that some non-Abrahamic faiths DO recognize it.

 

[visionary]

Nobody. Sabbath is still the 7th day. The Lord's day is Sunday.

And God of the Sabbath is not the Lord of Sabbath? Yeshua said He was Lord of Sabbath.