Infant Baptism

[MoreCoffee]

How many people have you baptised in order to obey the Lord?

Hundreds have been baptised by the faithful in my parish church. We baptise them as a community. The deacon or the priest officiates at the baptism. We all participate in prayer and in hearing the confession of faith offered by the catechumens and their sponsors, godparents, and parents. But I think you're asking how many people have I dunked into a pool of water. The answer to that is none. I am not a heretic.

 

[Alithis]

How many people have you baptized in order to obey the Lord?

Hundreds have been baptised by the faithful in my parish church. We baptise them as a community. The deacon or the priest officiates at the baptism. We all participate in prayer and in hearing the confession of faith offered by the catechumens and their sponsors, godparents, and parents. But I think you're asking how many people have I dunked into a pool of water. The answer to that is none. I am not a heretic.

so that would be ... none ?

 

[Alithis]

though for my part it ... ONE haha to my shame .. but for years the denominations only taught me to sit in a church on sunday ..they didn't teach me to actually go and DO the gospel ..that's being changed now though

 

[MoreCoffee]

so that would be ... none ?

though for my part it ... ONE haha to my shame .. but for years the denominations only taught me to sit in a church on sunday ..they didn't teach me to actually go and DO the gospel ..that's being changed now though

Oh, I have participated in the baptism of far more than one. No infants yet. Several adults.

 

[Alithis]

sprinkling doesn't count sorry

 

[MoreCoffee]

sprinkling doesn't count sorry

Heresy

Mind you, submerging folk is acceptable ... but the weird theology that you attach to getting dunked is not acceptable it is heresy.

 

[Alithis]

Heresy

Mind you, submerging folk is acceptable ... but the weird theology that you attach it getting dunked is not acceptable it is heresy.

hahahahaha that accusation is too funny to even take seriously

 

[MoreCoffee]

hahaha...

Heretics mocked the Lord, it's walking in a tradition that ought to be shameful but it isn't to heretics.

 

[Alithis]

ouh you are almost too funny ..
having failed to establish rome's doctrines being scriptural you resort to false accusations of heresy .. perhaps you would like to burn me at the stake also .. i means it rome's natural progression isn't it ?

show me where the bible directly and unambiguously teaches baptizing babies. -if you cant .. accept that it does not and stop pushing what the bible does not teach.
because im not going to change my stance nor my declaration . - wil declare what the scriptures plainly state .

repent and be baptised . ...

babies can't repent .

 

[MoreCoffee]

Infants are rightly baptised because infants need God's grace and baptism conveys God's grace.

 

[Full O Beans]

Oh, I have participated in the baptism of far more than one. No infants yet. Several adults.

You've only participated in a farce. Poor people think they're saved.

 

[Full O Beans]

Infants are rightly baptised because infants need God's grace and baptism conveys God's grace.

Infants already have God's grace. He knew them before they were norn and witnessed their development in the womb.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Infants already have God's grace.

How about you back your absurd claims with something from the holy scriptures? I suspect you will not be able to do so.

He knew them before they were norn and witnessed their development in the womb.

 

[Full O Beans]

How about you back your absurd claims with something from the holy scriptures? I suspect you will not be able to do so.

How about you refrain from purveying the Catholic party line and offer definitive scripture?

Everything I've said there is directly biblical. You should know that.

 

[MoreCoffee]

How about you back your absurd claims with something from the holy scriptures? I suspect you will not be able to do so.

How about you refrain from purveying the Catholic party line and offer definitive scripture?

Everything I've said there is directly biblical. You should know that.

Yep, just as I thought. Not a sign of scripture in your post. Not a single word ... just a bit of religious prejudice and some heresy that you want to pass off as truth.

 

[Full O Beans]

Yep, just as I thought. Not a sign of scripture in your post. Not a single word ... just a bit of religious prejudice and some heresy that you want to pass off as truth.

I used scripture. However using Tapatalk, I find it difficult to c & p passages. You must be gracious. Be a Berean and check it out yourself using a good concordance.

 

[Lamb]

You win the prize. Faith. Not water.

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Faith comes by God's Word and in baptism it's God's Word with the water (Ephesians 5:26).

 

[MoreCoffee]

I used scripture. However using Tapatalk, I find it difficult to c & p passages. You must be gracious. Be a Berean and check it out yourself using a good concordance.

The Beroeans were Jews I am not aiming to change my faith to Judaism. If you have only a phone to use then you can give the chapter and verse, no need to quote.

 

[Lamb]

Infants already have God's grace. He knew them before they were norn and witnessed their development in the womb.

So you believe in TWO gospels for salvation instead of one!

I believe in the biblical Gospel that we are all saved in the same way, by grace through faith.

God's Word gives us faith and God's Word is in the waters of baptism. Hence, God gives babies faith in the waters of baptism. But not only in baptism, God can give faith while they are in the womb if parents go to church and there is scripture because babies can hear in the womb. God's Word does not return to Him empty.

Scripture does not have 2 gospels as you claim.

 

[psalms 91]

So you believe in TWO gospels for salvation instead of one!

I believe in the biblical Gospel that we are all saved in the same way, by grace through faith.

God's Word gives us faith and God's Word is in the waters of baptism. Hence, God gives babies faith in the waters of baptism. But not only in baptism, God can give faith while they are in the womb if parents go to church and there is scripture because babies can hear in the womb. God's Word does not return to Him empty.

Scripture does not have 2 gospels as you claim.

What do you do with Romans 10:9-10? I dont know any babies who can do this for salvation