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Is forgiveness an eternal attribute of God? Or is forgiveness one of the faces that love shows when a sinner repents? Do you think that love is the same thing as forgiveness?
 

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God had a plan from the beginning concerning forgiveness and those who by faith through grace trusted in the promise of the Savior for forgiveness of their sins had salvation. Then, in the fullness of time, Christ came to earth and died in our places. Our sins were nailed to the cross and we are forgiven, justified for it is finished. Yet, not all benefit from it because we all have salvation in the same manner, by grace through faith. Those who believe receive eternal life, those who reject damn themselves.

God is love but it was because of love that He would forgive.
 

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God had a plan from the beginning concerning forgiveness and those who by faith through grace trusted in the promise of the Savior for forgiveness of their sins had salvation. Then, in the fullness of time, Christ came to earth and died in our places. Our sins were nailed to the cross and we are forgiven, justified for it is finished. Yet, not all benefit from it because we all have salvation in the same manner, by grace through faith. Those who believe receive eternal life, those who reject damn themselves.

God is love but it was because of love that He would forgive.

True. Yet plans must be realised and time within creation is the place where the realisation occurs.
 

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True. Yet plans must be realised and time within creation is the place where the realisation occurs.
Realizations ... hmmm .. so you are thinking God doesn't have it until you realize it.
 

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Is forgiveness an eternal attribute of God? Or is forgiveness one of the faces that love shows when a sinner repents? Do you think that love is the same thing as forgiveness?

I have motherly qualities that I have had since childhood. It didn't take for me to have my baby before those qualities ever emerged because they were a part of my nature until the time needed and God is like that because doesn't it say in scripture that He is unchanging?
 

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I have motherly qualities that I have had since childhood. It didn't take for me to have my baby before those qualities ever emerged because they were a part of my nature until the time needed and God is like that because doesn't it say in scripture that He is unchanging?

Yes, you are a creature and you grew up and matured and will eventually grow old and die but none of this is true of the eternal God. It's bad logic to argue by analogy from the creature to the creator. Argument from creator to creature has more validity but even then it is limited insofar as God is infinite and all creatures are finite.
 

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Made in the image of God....no good attribute of man can come from anywhere but God.
 

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Made in the image of God....no good attribute of man can come from anywhere but God.

What of the wicked attributes of men, whence came they?
 

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I'm not sure where I learned forgiveness from but it was probably from Catholic school. I believe that I learned it from the teachings of Christ.
 

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Is forgiveness an eternal attribute of God? Or is forgiveness one of the faces that love shows when a sinner repents? Do you think that love is the same thing as forgiveness?

IMO, it's a divine attribute. And while it is healthy for us to REPENT.... and while we have the promise that those who have faith and repentance ARE forgiven.... the forgiveness itself flows from God's unconditional love in view of the Cross and Empty Tomb.
 

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IMO, it's a divine attribute. And while it is healthy for us to REPENT.... and while we have the promise that those who have faith and repentance ARE forgiven.... the forgiveness itself flows from God's unconditional love in view of the Cross and Empty Tomb.

You think that forgiveness is an eternal attribute of God?
 

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You think that forgiveness is an eternal attribute of God?

Love is... and forgiveness flows from that (in view of the Cross, the empty Tomb)
 

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Love is... and forgiveness flows from that (in view of the Cross, the empty Tomb)

Yes, love is an eternal attribute of God. Is forgiveness the same thing as love?
 

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Can you forgive without love?
 

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