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I've heard this term used before many times. How did this all come into play, since I've seen it come with a nasty tide.
 

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Well I mean how does it fit directly into the mainstream Christian Theology? I'm probably not being quite clear, what I'm going at is how did the theology surrounding Mary become a large aspect of debate and theological discussion?
 

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It's big because of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. I have no use for it myself. I don't see how it could be that important.


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It's big because of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. I have no use for it myself. I don't see how it could be that important.


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I've heard the terms Theotokos and Mother of God used before, but even one such as Co-Redemtrix which really throws me off.
 

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I agree that it is bad theology in my opinion. Mary while blessed above all women is not our savior and belief in her will get noone to heaven
 

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I agree that it is bad theology in my opinion. Mary while blessed above all women is not our savior and belief in her will get noone to heaven

Correct. However, I don't agree with the way she's written off to where she's just considered another lady, or as someone I seen post once, she's just a dead lady.

Do you disagree with all aspects of Mariology?
 

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I would put her along side other "heroes of the faith" (David, Moses, Joshua, etc). But that's it.


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Very honestly I dont know as I dont know all aspects of Mariology. I do know that I would not pray to her or for that matter any saint as I believe it is Jesus that can intercede and get prayer answered.
 

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Mariology or beliefs about the virgin Mary that aren't in Scripture are part of the added tradition of the Roman Catholic Church and maybe the Eastern Orthodox traditions (I'm not sure about the latter group). Anyway, they have established as their "truth" what their leaders have established as true apart from the Bible that Mary was conceived sinlessly, that we should pray to her (Hail, Mary), and other beliefs like Purgatory that are not founded on the Bible. I object to their adding nonbiblical tradition to their beliefs. Our beliefs should be based on the Bible alone.
 
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I've never heard of this
 

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Mariology or beliefs about the virgin Mary that aren't in Scripture are part of the added tradition of the Roman Catholic Church and maybe the Eastern Orthodox traditions (I'm not sure about the latter group). Anyway, they have established as their "truth" what their leaders have established as true apart from the Bible that Mary was conceived sinlessly, that we should pray to her (Hail, Mary), and other beliefs like Purgatory that are not founded on the Bible. I object to their adding nonbiblical tradition to their beliefs. Our beliefs should be based on the Bible alone.
Was the early church wrong?
 

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Just my opinion, which will probably make everyone mad: The one you pray to is the one you worship.

God mentioned something about this in the First Commandment so perhaps we should take this seriously.
 

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Was the early church wrong?
@George It wasn't the "early church" that added a tradition to the Bible; it was the whole line of Popes. When the church became the favored and only one in the Roman Empire in the fourth century, I believe, they made a huge mistake of merging Christian beliefs with pagan ones. For instance, they replaced the Queen of Heaven with Mary and the many false gods with the saints. Such syncretism is unbiblical. The Bible is the only measure of our faith, not Mary, the saints, or the Popes.
 

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@George It wasn't the "early church" that added a tradition to the Bible; it was the whole line of Popes. When the church became the favored and only one in the Roman Empire in the fourth century, I believe, they made a huge mistake of merging Christian beliefs with pagan ones. For instance, they replaced the Queen of Heaven with Mary and the many false gods with the saints. Such syncretism is unbiblical. The Bible is the only measure of our faith, not Mary, the saints, or the Popes.

George isn't Roman Catholic, but Eastern Orthodox which is an older denomination.
 

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Well I mean how does it fit directly into the mainstream Christian Theology?
Catholicism IS mainstream Christian Theology since Catholics are 50% of the world's Christians
 

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George isn't Roman Catholic, but Eastern Orthodox which is an older denomination.
Since Orthodox split of from the Catholic Church how can they be older?
 

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@George It wasn't the "early church" that added a tradition to the Bible; it was the whole line of Popes. When the church became the favored and only one in the Roman Empire in the fourth century, I believe, they made a huge mistake of merging Christian beliefs with pagan ones. For instance, they replaced the Queen of Heaven with Mary and the many false gods with the saints. Such syncretism is unbiblical. The Bible is the only measure of our faith, not Mary, the saints, or the Popes.

Erroneous from start to finish. But then you provide no evidence for your opinions.
 

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I've heard the terms Theotokos and Mother of God used before, but even one such as Co-Redemtrix which really throws me off.
Co-Redemtrix is not a doctrine of the Catholic Church. Some Catholics would like to se it proclaimed a dogma but the Church has done so.
 

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Just my opinion, which will probably make everyone mad: The one you pray to is the one you worship.

God mentioned something about this in the First Commandment so perhaps we should take this seriously.

As you say, its just your opinion.
 
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