Tonight's debate between Biden and Trump

[Lamb]

Will you be watching the Debate tonight? Do you expect it to be fair? Do you expect the moderators to be unbiased? Do you expect name calling?

 

[NewCreation435]

I do not plan on watching. I would not vote for either of them.

 

[Forgiven1]

Haven't decided if I am nor not. There really won't be anything new to hear.

 

[Josiah]

I won't watch it live, but I'm sure it will be replayed.

I have no intention of voting for either of them, but the debate should be entertaining. These two men HATE each other, and Trump is... well... Trump so I expect it to be nasty and likely include his usual name calling and child antics. I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump refuses to shake hands (but I hope to be wrong there).


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[tango]

I'm not sure I really care what either of them have to say.

 

[Lamb]

I couldn't believe what I was watching last night and felt that Biden was a complete embarrassment for our country. His meds weren't kicking in until later on in the debate, but by then, the damage had already been done. Democrats can now see what Republicans have been pointing out all along...Biden has some serious medical issues, and it isn't a cold.

 

[Lanman87]

I couldn't believe what I was watching last night and felt that Biden was a complete embarrassment for our country. His meds weren't kicking in until later on in the debate, but by then, the damage had already been done. Democrats can now see what Republicans have been pointing out all along...Biden has some serious medical issues, and it isn't a cold.

I was wondering why they scheduled the debate before the conventions. Now I think it planned by the Democrats so that if Biden, well did what he did last night, they could get Biden to bow out and have an open convention to pick another candidate. If they had waited until after the convention then if Biden dropped out then K. Harris would have moved up on the ticket. This way they can pick someone who is more likely to win.

I didn't watch the debate, but seeing the reaction of Democrats I new think it is likely that Biden will not accept the nomination and another democrat will be the candidate. Probably Gavin Newsom from California.

 

[tango]

I couldn't believe what I was watching last night and felt that Biden was a complete embarrassment for our country. His meds weren't kicking in until later on in the debate, but by then, the damage had already been done. Democrats can now see what Republicans have been pointing out all along...Biden has some serious medical issues, and it isn't a cold.

I didn't watch the debate. I was interested to see the New York Times this morning, hardly a right-wing mouthpiece, saying more or less that Biden's performance was a disaster and Democrats are worried now. Curiously it mentioned a poll that said well over half of voters don't plan to change their vote based on the debate.

... which goes right back to the problem of very polarising candidates. If you naturally lean Democrat to any extent it's hard to imagine voting for Trump however badly Biden did. I'd hazard a guess that even if Biden were one step away from being declared dead he'd still be preferable to Trump. To be clear, I imagine the same applies to people who naturally lean Republican, had the situation been reversed on stage.

 

[Josiah]

WOW. I did watch it. I liked this format much better and I thought the liberal moderators actually did well.



Biden had his moments, but fundamentally he came across as OLD and disabled. It was SO bad that I actually felt some pity for the man. It was a disaster, an embarrassment, a train wreck. SO bad that even the uber-liberal, Democrat Party Puppet media could not spin this in any other way (it was just undeniable) and the post-debate spin by them was basically about could Jill Biden convince him to drop out of the race.

Trump did not win, IMO. He had a moment or two as well, but mostly it was just the same sound-bits of mostly misinformation. BUT I've rarely seen him fairly well-behaved. Actually being an adult. BLESSEDLY absent was the name-calling, the childish behavior that is so common from him. That surprised me greatly but delighted me: the man CAN (sorta) behave and act like a man.

But Trump didn't have to win. This was all about Biden. And he lost - big time.



Republicans.... don't rejoice. Yeah, Trump can beat Biden but IF Biden does drop out, Gavin Newsom is waiting in the sidelines. And he can beat Trump. And he is much worse than Biden. Republicans - hope Biden says in. Hope the Democrats and their puppet media rally behind him.



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[Lanman87]

WOW. I did watch it. I liked this format much better and I thought the liberal moderators actually did well.



Biden had his moments, but fundamentally he came across as OLD and disabled. It was SO bad that I actually felt some pity for the man. It was a disaster, an embarrassment, a train wreck. SO bad that even the uber-liberal, Democrat Party Puppet media could not spin this in any other way (it was just undeniable) and the post-debate spin by them was basically about could Jill Biden convince him to drop out of the race.

Trump did not win, IMO. He had a moment or two as well, but mostly it was just the same sound-bits of mostly misinformation. BUT I've rarely seen him fairly well-behaved. Actually being an adult. BLESSEDLY absent was the name-calling, the childish behavior that is so common from him. That surprised me greatly but delighted me: the man CAN (sorta) behave and act like a man.

But Trump didn't have to win. This was all about Biden. And he lost - big time.



Republicans.... don't rejoice. Yeah, Trump can beat Biden but IF Biden does drop out, Gavin Newsom is waiting in the sidelines. And he can beat Trump. And he is much worse than Biden. Republicans - hope Biden says in. Hope the Democrats and their puppet media rally behind him.



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I agree, based on what I've seen this morning. If Biden stays in the race Trump will win. It was already a close race and Biden falling flat may be what gives Trump the edge.

If Biden drops out and the Democrats choose another candidate that is younger and well spoken, then Trump is in trouble.

As I said, this is the first time I can ever remember a debate being before the conventions. I think that was on purpose. This gives the democrats time to convince Biden to drop out and choose another candidate at the convention. The big question is if Biden can be convinced to drop out. I imagine they will be watching the polls closely over the next week and if there is a noticeable drop in support for Biden then even more pressure will be put on him to drop out of the race.

If Biden does drop out then democrats will feud and fight until a candidate is chosen then will all get excited and fall in line when it is time.

 

[Josiah]

I agree, based on what I've seen this morning. If Biden stays in the race Trump will win. It was already a close race and Biden falling flat may be what gives Trump the edge.

If Biden drops out and the Democrats choose another candidate that is younger and well spoken, then Trump is in trouble.

As I said, this is the first time I can ever remember a debate being before the conventions. I think that was on purpose. This gives the democrats time to convince Biden to drop out and choose another candidate at the convention. The big question is if Biden can be convinced to drop out. I imagine they will be watching the polls closely over the next week and if there is a noticeable drop in support for Biden then even more pressure will be put on him to drop out of the race.

If Biden does drop out then democrats will feud and fight until a candidate is chosen then will all get excited and fall in line when it is time

I GUESS that IF Biden can be convinced to drop out, he will also be convinced to endorse a candidate - assigning his delegates to that candidate. His campaign money would also go to that person. This would make a convention fight less likely.

I think Newsom would be the obvious person. He's been very quietly sitting on the side-lines all along, speaking around the country at various Democrat and Liberal groups (he's out of California a LOT these days). He insists he's not campaigning and supports Biden BUT he's raising money, making friends, establishing himself. The "spin" in the California press is that he's already running for 2028 but I suspect he's the "fall back" guy in 2024.

Newsom is smart, slick, and a consummate politician - he's really good at it. He's young, handsome, a strong campaigner, and tends to be likeable. The press absolutely loves him, Hollywood considers him one of their own. And he's sitting on a huge "war chest" of money. And he's UBER liberal, way to the left of Biden. Not SO much in financial matters (he's actually more mainstream there) but on all other issues, WAY to the left. Republicans - pray Biden says in the race.



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[Castle Church]

This could come back to haunt me, but I believe the Democrats have backed themselves into a corner with the race games and DEI so as to preclude Newsom being a realistic Presidential candidate - another white male. IF Biden is replaced my money would be on Gov. Whitmer, Governor Moore, or Vice President Kamala.

 

[Lamb]

Newsom has done so much damage to his own state that companies and even some celebrities are fleeing. I don't know if he would be a good pick to run the country. He's cute and charming, and that's going to get him votes. But his policies are garbage and will destroy the country.

 

[tango]

Newsom has done so much damage to his own state that companies and even some celebrities are fleeing. I don't know if he would be a good pick to run the country. He's cute and charming, and that's going to get him votes. But his policies are garbage and will destroy the country.

The trouble is the lack of sensible options. A voter who is even a moderate Democrat would really struggle to vote for Trump, which leaves them with the option of Newsom or a third-party candidate. When both sides field candidates who even moderates on their own side increasingly dislike it turns into little more than tribal voting and hoping the other side upsets more of their voters enough for them to stay home, than your side does.

As you say people and companies are fleeing California. I wonder how much of a Newsom presidency it would take for companies to flee the US completely.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

Biden did great. He lost his train of thought a couple of times, which is expected considering his stutter and sickness, but all the criticism about his performance is unwarranted.

 

[Lanman87]

Biden did great. He lost his train of thought a couple of times, which is expected considering his stutter and sickness, but all the criticism about his performance is unwarranted.

Apparently 75% of the country disagree with you and several prominent democrats have gone on record saying he should drop out after that terrible performance.

 

[Lamb]

Biden did great. He lost his train of thought a couple of times, which is expected considering his stutter and sickness, but all the criticism about his performance is unwarranted.

He did great? He showed the world that he's decrepit.

Here's the thing that the US and allies should be afraid of. Biden isn't competent enough to make a decision on his own at "any" time of the day. He works from 10am-4pm and has a nap in there every day too, so if something happens in the world and this world leader needs to make a choice, how can he do that in his current state of mind? Can we trust that the President can actually DO what he's supposed to? It's scary.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

He showed the world that he's decrepit.

He's not decrepit. He has a stutter and he had a cold. His health is a bit frail, but that's no reason to not be president. He's intelligent, coherent and he did some good things for America over the past years.

 

[Albion]

He's not decrepit. He has a stutter and he had a cold.

Apparently you are determined to believe everything that his closest advisors put out to the media. Some of these people also said that Biden has been declining noticeably over the past few months, though, which is what Americans in general have observed.

His health is a bit frail, but that's no reason to not be president.

How about him being available for work as our president only from 10 AM to 4 PM and only some of the days of the week at that?

Personally, I'd want a full-time president and leader of the free world.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

Personally, I'd want a full-time president and leader of the free world.

So, you want a robot? Because no human being can operate without sleep. Yes, even presidents sleep.

Apparently you are determined to believe everything that his closest advisors put out to the media.

C'mon, man!