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Former President Donald Trump lashes out at Judge Tanya Chutkan after she reimposes a gag order designed to prevent him from attacking prosecutors, court staff and potential witnesses in the federal election interference case against him.

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Do you think a gag order is a violation of his 1st amendment right? (Why or Why Not)
 
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{quote]Former President Donald Trump lashes out at Judge Tanya Chutkan after she reimposes a gag order designed to prevent him from attacking prosecutors, court staff and potential witnesses in the federal election interference case against him.

Chutkan is black, a Jamaican born U.S. citizen. She was appointed by Obama. She is nothing more than a tool in the machinary of Democratic politics that aims to destroy Trump using the legal process.

Democrats can't defeat Trump through the legal vote. So they have resorted to try and destroy him through legal means. It's a sham.

I've always said the Democrats are never going to allow a Conservative to win the Presidency again. They will resort to anything. Just as they have done with the courts, and will continue doing. They use the justice system and the F.B.I. as their leverage.

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To answer the OP question:

No. Gag orders are a legitimate limit on the boundaries of the First Amendment. Justice sometimes requires that people shut up in order to ensure a fair trial.

Donald Trump is currently trying to intimidate officers of the court by insulting them on the Internet. That's not an acceptable use of free speech.
 

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To answer the OP question:

No. Gag orders are a legitimate limit on the boundaries of the First Amendment. Justice sometimes requires that people shut up in order to ensure a fair trial.

Donald Trump is currently trying to intimidate officers of the court by insulting them on the Internet. That's not an acceptable use of free speech.

Donald Trump has been persecuted by the Democrats/liberals since he won the election back in 2016. Persecuted using the justice system to harass, run interference on what he wanted do, and now to try and find some way to stop him from running again.

And you want to accuse him of insulting officers of the court when they have been using the courts to persecute him? Please.

Liberals always whine about 'free speech' when they can't take the heat. But don't ever tell them they can't have their say. Oh, you will rue the day. They will attack you through their propaganda media every day, all day long. They are pathetic and are following their pied piper, Biden. Do whatever you can to stop Trump is their goal.

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To answer the OP question:

No. Gag orders are a legitimate limit on the boundaries of the First Amendment. Justice sometimes requires that people shut up in order to ensure a fair trial.

Donald Trump is currently trying to intimidate officers of the court by insulting them on the Internet. That's not an acceptable use of free speech.
It's hard to see how Trump's speeches would do much to intimidate the officers of the court. A more likely scenario would be for the prosecution eagerly to use as many as possible of these comments against him as showing some supposed attempt by him to overthrow the government or something else in that vein.

Ironically (and this is now being acknowledged by almost every observer, even Democrats), the enormous number of indictments and court filings, etc. in both state and federal courts, nicely timed to interfere with the primary elections in early 2024, have already made his nomination for president virtually certain. He won't even have to campaign.

Had that NOT been the course of events, Trump very well might have been seen by now, although perhaps reluctantly so by some Republicans, as being 'yesterday's news,' and he'd have become just another commentator on the political scene not unlike the role Hillary plays.
 

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And you want to accuse him of insulting officers of the court when they have been using the courts to persecute him? Please.

Liberals always whine about 'free speech' when they can't take the heat. But don't ever tell them they can't have their say. Oh, you will rue the day. They will attack you through their propaganda media every day, all day long. They are pathetic and are following their pied piper, Biden. Do whatever you can to stop Trump is their goal.

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I'm not accusing him of anything. For breaking a gag order prohibiting him from disparaging court staff, a judge has fined Trump $5,000 and $10,000, respectively.

Another judge is considering comparable penalties.

However, given that no other criminal defendant in America could get away with saying, much less doing the things that Trump has — from labelling the judge unhinged to threatening witnesses and remaining out of jail, why is he still on the streets?
 

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I'm not accusing him of anything. For breaking a gag order prohibiting him from disparaging court staff, a judge has fined Trump $5,000 and $10,000, respectively.

Another judge is considering comparable penalties.

However, given that no other criminal defendant in America could get away with saying, much less doing the things that Trump has — from labelling the judge unhinged to threatening witnesses and remaining out of jail, why is he still on the streets?

You said Trump is intimidatiing officers of the court, insulting them on the internet. You said that is not an acceptable use of free speech. How are those not accusations?

As i said, Trump has been attacked by Democrats and liberals who use the judicial system as a political weapon against Trump since 2016. They should be the ones on trial for their criminal use of our legal system.

Perhaps Trump is still on the street because he is not guilty of the constant false charges he gets from Democrats and liberals. Perhaps Trump is still on the street because the Democrats and liberals know they are fomenting lies and are afraid to go that far knowing they will one day be proven wrong.

All Democrats and liberals care about at this time is the immediate threat. The possibility of Trump becoming president again.

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You said Trump is intimidatiing officers of the court, insulting them on the internet. You said that is not an acceptable use of free speech. How are those not accusations?
Again, I didn't say it, a judge did: A judge has fined Trump $5,000 and $10,000, respectively.
 

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Again, I didn't say it, a judge did: A judge has fined Trump $5,000 and $10,000, respectively.
Good. It’s about time someone tries to shush him up.
 

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You said Trump is intimidatiing officers of the court, insulting them on the internet. You said that is not an acceptable use of free speech. How are those not accusations?

As i said, Trump has been attacked by Democrats and liberals who use the judicial system as a political weapon against Trump since 2016. They should be the ones on trial for their criminal use of our legal system.

Perhaps Trump is still on the street because he is not guilty of the constant false charges he gets from Democrats and liberals. Perhaps Trump is still on the street because the Democrats and liberals know they are fomenting lies and are afraid to go that far knowing they will one day be proven wrong.

All Democrats and liberals care about at this time is the immediate threat. The possibility of Trump becoming president again.

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I'm sure that many people who don't care for Trump would be just as smug if he were simply taken out into the backyard by his political opponents and executed. Meanwhile, those same people are madder than Hades when they get a traffic ticket and never stop talking about what a great injustice has been done to them by the crooked government, blah blah blah.
 

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I'm sure that many people who don't care for Trump would be just as smug if he were simply taken out into the backyard by his political opponents and executed. Meanwhile, those same people are madder than Hades when they get a traffic ticket and never stop talking about what a great injustice has been done to them by the crooked government, blah blah blah.

I wouldn't be surprised at anything the Democrats/Liberal would do to stop Trump...or any other conservative now from being President. Including assassination. Remember George Wallace?

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