Trump said shoplifters should be shot

[Jazzy]

When former President Trump hysterically called for shoplifters to be shot in a speech last week before California Republicans, we know who he thinks he’s talking about: Black and Brown people. “We will immediately stop all of the pillaging and theft,” Trump said. “Very simply: If you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving that store. Shot!”

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Do you agree with his statement? (Why/Why Not)

 

[Ammi]

I didn't hear him say it. And since the lockstep left only lies about Trump, I pay no attention to them. I don't recall ever seeing Trump hysterical.
Whatever one thinks of Trump, he wouldn't have got us within an inch of nuclear war with Russia.
Perhaps we should cut thieves hands off like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and Somalia do.

 

[Albion]

I didn't hear him say it. And since the lockstep left only lies about Trump, I pay no attention to them. I don't recall ever seeing Trump hysterical.
Whatever one thinks of Trump, he wouldn't have got us within an inch of nuclear war with Russia.
Perhaps we should cut thieves hands off like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and Somalia do.

Well, the Original Post in this thread presented us with news written with a remarkably anti-Trump slant, so that gets us asked to comment on an inaccurate report as if it were factual. Its claims don't even make sense, if you read the article carefully.

Anyway, Trump did not actually say what most of the media reports breathlessly claimed, meaning that you're right not to give much credence to those articles, Ammi.

 

[Ammi]

Well, the Original Post in this thread presented us with news written with a remarkably anti-Trump slant, so that gets us asked to comment on an inaccurate report as if it were factual. Its claims don't even make sense, if you read the article carefully.

Anyway, Trump did not actually say what most of the media reports breathlessly claimed, meaning that you're right not to give much credence to those articles, Ammi.

I never listen to them. They are full of hatred. They seem to believe that theirs is a cause so righteous that any means to their end is justified.
They, of course, are wrong.

 

[Lees]

Do you agree with his statement? (Why/Why Not)

Whether Trump said it or not, I don't know.

Do I agree with it? Of course. Part of what made America great was 'private property' which means the owner has a right to protect his property. If that means shooting the thieves, then yes, shoot them.

Blacks want a free run at stealing what they can knowing they can't get shot, because BLM. That's bull. When 'smash and grabbers' run in to steal, you don't know what else is their intention. You don't know the weapons they have. You simply must protect your property and shoot as many as you can.

A simple buglary by one, sometimes turns into a rape. It won't be long that this 'smash and grab' stealing technique will turn into 'smash and rape'. And then 'smash, grab, rape, and murder'. After all, black lives is what matters.

Blacks and liberals have our society so backwards. And whites, christians, and conservatives are too afraid to own up to it.

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[Lanman87]

Is this guy trying to say that White people never shoplift? From my experience all humans are sinful and capable of crimes. My local PD are constantly arresting white people for various crimes, including shoplifting.

People see what they want to see.

 

[Ammi]

If someone walks into a store, walks around awhile and slips a chocolate bar into his pocket, no, you don't shoot him. But when a mob has smashed in the store's windows and is leaving with TVs and such, it needs to be stopped. How? By whatever means are necessary because much more is at stake than some TVs.
I don't know if they're communists or what, but a large portion of society seems to have lost their minds. If law and order isn't restored, we're going to end up with a civil war. Off the top of my head, I'd say a million dead in the streets, made up mostly of the progressive type.

 

[Albion]

Is this guy trying to say that White people never shoplift?

By "this guy" do you mean Trump.? If so, the answer is clearly a "no." However, you read the article and saw what the writer(s) there wanted you to believe.

From my experience all humans are sinful and capable of crimes. My local PD are constantly arresting white people for various crimes, including shoplifting.

Of course. Whites are the ones most often arrested.

Ammi:

If someone walks into a store, walks around awhile and slips a chocolate bar into his pocket, no, you don't shoot him. But when a mob has smashed in the store's windows and is leaving with TVs and such, it needs to be stopped. How? By whatever means are necessary because much more is at stake than some TVs.

You've raised a valid point. Trump was undeniably referring to looters, not to the kid who slips a candy bar into his pocket. It was not too long ago that Americans generally agreed that rioting and wholesale looting was deserving of a response that included shooting where and when necessary. How fast that perspective appears to have changed into considering it to be unthinkable under all circumstances!

 

[Ammi]

By "this guy" do you mean Trump.? If so, the answer is clearly a "no." However, you read the article and saw what the writer(s) there wanted you to believe.


Of course. Whites are the ones most often arrested.



You've raised a valid point. Trump was undeniably referring to looters, not to the kid who slips a candy bar into his pocket. It was not too long ago that Americans generally agreed that rioting and wholesale looting was deserving of a response that included shooting where and when necessary. How fast that perspective appears to have changed into considering it to be unthinkable under all circumstances!

I think we're in a cultural revolution. Larry Fink of Blackrock said that he liked communism because the communist worker is an efficient worker. He basically has a free reign in China like no one else has. I keep thinking about a seine net where at first the fish were able to just swim out of the net but didn't see the need to.
At a certain point, the net is quickly closed and though the fish then realize what is happening, it's too late for them to do anything about it.
Or like frogs...
We are frogs in a pot
Who never ever thought
That we'd ever get caught
In such an awkward spot
Where our situation got
Increasingly so hot
Now we see what thought...got...us!

It's better sung with a guitar, but it gets a point across.

 

[Lees]

I think we're in a cultural revolution. Larry Fink of Blackrock said that he liked communism because the communist worker is an efficient worker. He basically has a free reign in China like no one else has. I keep thinking about a seine net where at first the fish were able to just swim out of the net but didn't see the need to.
At a certain point, the net is quickly closed and though the fish then realize what is happening, it's too late for them to do anything about it.
Or like frogs...
We are frogs in a pot
Who never ever thought
That we'd ever get caught
In such an awkward spot
Where our situation got
Increasingly so hot
Now we see what thought...got...us!

It's better sung with a guitar, but it gets a point across.

Yes, we are in a cultural revolution. The races of color are being presented as good and rich in culture. The white race is deemed evil and demonic.

If you ever watch PBS, the so called 'educational' channel, you will constantly hear the phrase "America Reframed". What does that mean? It means America is being changed from a white established nation to a nation run by the races of color.

Thus, if you have anything of white heritiage displayed, such as monuments or flags, or pictures, it is attacked as racist or colonialism, and must be viewed as evil, and eventually removed. And in their place pictures or monuments of blacks or people of color will replace them, such as Martin Luther King.

Harriet Tubman, a black slave woman, is supposed to replace Andrew Jackson on the 20 dollar bill. Placing a slave on equal footing with a former President of the U.S. America Reframed. And of course liberals and blacks and people of color just rejoice. Just like they rejoice that they have the power to bring legal charges against Trump and hopefully for them, throw him in jail.

God established America as a Christian and white government. One which He would use as a haven for Christians and a spread of the Gospel.

Satan has been busy destroying this work of God. America Reframed. And race is an all important factor in it's reframing. Don't people America with white people, from who the blessings of God are found in Japheth, who is blessed with Shem. Instead, people it with the people of color, in whom no blessing is found and curses are.

But don't ever say it. Because if you do, your an evil racist. So Christians, and whites, and conservatives just turn their head like they don't see it. Better to pretend then to say something and be labeled a 'white nationalist racist'.

So, yes, A cultural revolution. America Reframed. Races of color elevated. White race demonized. Yet the countries of the white races is where all the people of color are trying to immigrate to.

Satan has done his best work in Ameirica. He destroys what God does. And America rejoices as though it is good. Insane.

My opinion.

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[Lanman87]

By "this guy" do you mean Trump.?

I meant the writer of the article. To say that Trump was talking about minorities seems to indicate that white people can't be "shoplifters". Trump didn't say "black shoplifters" he said "shoplifters". The writer of the article saw "black people" because that is what he/she wanted to see.

 

[Albion]

I meant the writer of the article. To say that Trump was talking about minorities seems to indicate that white people can't be "shoplifters". Trump didn't say "black shoplifters" he said "shoplifters". The writer of the article saw "black people" because that is what he/she wanted to see.

Exactly so.

And "thank you' for clearing that up. By the way, I read a number of different articles that reported on this event and were critical of Trump, but the one we were asked to react to was alone (as I recall) in trying to pin that particular interpretation on Trump's wording.

I believe it was also the only one that described Trump as speaking "hysterically." LOL

 

[tango]

I'm sure the media would never take anything Trump said out of context, so let's just take it at face value and conclude that orangemanbad.

 

[Josiah]

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Do you agree with his statement? (Why/Why Not)

Just ONE of my problems with Trump. He just seems to often SAY things - weird, unsubstantiated, crazy and sometimes both offensive and wrong things. And then lots need to do "clean up." I sometimes wonder if he engages his brain when he talks (or texts). But too often, when he has a chance to THINK about what he said, he does NOT clarify or retract or even just say it was hyperbole, he defends it. I don't know if this is true, but I read that his wife once said that she wishes he'd not engage in social media... and a campaign worker said he wishes Trump would stick to the written speech.


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[Albion]

I agree that he would do much better paying attention to exactly what his words say, and also to the responses he gives when challenged on them. On the other hand, though, there is no doubt that his enemies in the media and the Democratic Party almost always--and will always--make a big deal out of THEIR interpretation of what he's said, and do so with a dedication that is never, ever, directed at the simply fantastic tales told by the current occupant of the White House.

What Trump mainly does is talk the way the rest of us talk in ordinary conversation every day. We do not weigh the political import of our terminology when saying, for example, "everybody knows that I helped such and such" when, in fact, there probably are some people somewhere who DO NOT know it.

But you can always count on the press and some in Congress to call Trump a "liar" for saying anything that, technically, might in some way not be entirely accurate.

 

[NewCreation435]

No, I do not agree with his statement. Nobody's life is worth losing because of a simple loss of property that is fully insured anyway. Even if it is not insured, I would rather lose something than have on my conscious that I shot someone and took their life. Apparently Mr.Trump doesn't agree.