Would You Trust...

[popsthebuilder]

Talk more of convenient overlooking and omition of scripture.

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[popsthebuilder]

Excuse my tone. I apologize sincerely.

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[popsthebuilder]

Not sure of the verse or even chapter.

The part where it says the Angel came into Mary, and she conceived.

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I meant unto

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[Brighten04]

Talk more of convenient overlooking and omition of scripture.

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In none of the scripture you posted before says Lord Jesus is a created being. Please show scripture saying He was created by God our Father.

 

[popsthebuilder]

He was created by the will of God through an angel or spirit and man/ woman under God. Not sure what book. Which one is it?

Mathew one is descriptive and shows that technical geneologies are not pertinant, but that Crist is of rightly guided man wholly of the will of God. Everything is of God and submissive to the will of God in some way. Being formed by God. Adam, the first man, all men are of Adam, and every other man is of God.

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[popsthebuilder]

Jesus is not a created being seperate from God. Just wasn't ewuivilent to GOD the Creator and father as a man.

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[popsthebuilder]

Matthew 1 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
16: And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

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[popsthebuilder]

Matthew 1 (KJV) - ማቴዎስ
16: And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
23: I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
24: When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
24: When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
24: When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

Do you see any difference in the words he and I?

Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
30: Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
32: Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

Testament that the way is the example put forth by the Crist, Jesus.

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[popsthebuilder]

Proverbs 8 (KJV) - ምሳሌ
35: For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36: But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

All caps signifies GOD the Creator and Father, not the white Lamb.

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[Brighten04]

He was created by the will of God through an angel or spirit and man/ woman under God. Not sure what book. Which one is it?

Mathew one is descriptive and shows that technical geneologies are not pertinant, but that Crist is of rightly guided man wholly of the will of God. Everything is of God and submissive to the will of God in some way. Being formed by God. Adam, the first man, all men are of Adam, and every other man is of God.

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You are talking about the incarnation. Lord Jesus is there in the beginning. He existed prior to the incarnation. Do you read the Old Testament. He talked with Abraham.

Gen. 18:And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

Gen. 18:13 And the Lord said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?

Gen. 18:20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You are talking about the incarnation. Lord Jesus is there in the beginning. He existed prior to the incarnation. Do you read the Old Testament. He talked with Abraham.

Gen. 18:And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

Gen. 18:13 And the Lord said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?

Gen. 18:20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord.

It states repeatedly that none can observe the presence of God in true form for they could not withstand it.

The physical embodiment of the LORD is for the understanding and showing to man, the validity and proof of God and the limitless ability there of.

All this is of God and yet not limiting to it. You limit God by boxing it into the form of man. It is without limit. The spirit of God is eternal and without change. The physical, in any form, is not.

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[popsthebuilder]

Not to mention Jesus, Moses, Elias, Enoch, nor any other man is mentioned by name where you quoted from. Showing that Christ is of a consciousness and way, and not limited to a particular man, hence the three.

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[Brighten04]

Not to mention Jesus, Moses, Elias, Enoch, nor any other man is mentioned by name where you quoted from. Showing that Christ is of a consciousness and way, and not limited to a particular man, hence the three.

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Oh wow! That sounds very New Age to me.

 

[NewCreation435]

...in your congregation a person who converted from Islam to Christianity.

As much as I trust anyone else.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Oh wow! That sounds very New Age to me.

Next time you crack opened your book take note of the repeated use of the word conscience. With change in time and culture comes different need. God is immutable and without change, humanity and civilization are not. Not are their respective needs at any given time.

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[popsthebuilder]

Trust and respect are reserved for God. Man is to be proven by his works.

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[Brighten04]

Next time you crack opened your book take note of the repeated use of the word conscience. With change in time and culture comes different need. God is immutable and without change, humanity and civilization are not. Not are their respective needs at any given time.

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Double speak! But, if you think you are right, so be it. I am glad I know where you are coming from though.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Double speak! But, if you think you are right, so be it. I am glad I know where you are coming from though.

What do you mean "double speak"? Why do you seam to take offence to what I say. Is any of it contradicted by scripture?

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[Brighten04]

What do you mean "double speak"? Why do you seam to take offence to what I say. Is any of it contradicted by scripture?

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First, I asked you to show me scripture that said Jesus was a created being and you posted scripture about the incarnation. Next you started talking about Christ consciousness and pointing to scripture about consciousness. Then you say Jesus was like Mose and other men in scripture when Lord Jesus was God incarnate. You tell half truth. And the sad thing is you think you are right.. I am praying for you.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Brighten04,

I spoke of geneology and its irrelevance. I spoke of the woman who birthed Christ. I did speak of the Godhead, or Christ conciousness, and the selfless conscience.

The Lord was similar to Moses and Elias, John the Baptist, but he was the only perfect/ pure/ without sin -ever. He was also prophesied about in two different times. And in two different ways for two different reasons. He was indeed the firstborn of GOD.

I've thought about it some...
I already know that for me personally Lord and God are equivalent. The issue lies in the worship of a man. This has potential to be very, very detrimental to our very existence. We are to try to unite under God at this time, not attempt to speed the coming of the end.

Thank you for your prayer for my direction under God. I too, will pray for you, and for us to peaceably resolve our differences for the sake of God's purpose for us if it is his will.

I understand that Jesus of Nazareth could have been God incarnate, and to state otherwise is to limit my own Faith in the abilities and will of God. the fact that there will be an antichrist, and a deceiver and people worshiping a man as God are yu to main reasons I refute Jesus, when he was a man being absolutely equal to GOD. I'm trying to avoid what may be inevitable.

Peace

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