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[Albion]

This post was written 10 minutes ago, I posted that link 23 minutes ago. That means, even if you started that 1 hour 30 minute documentary the second after I linked it, you watched only 13 minutes...

..and then chose to make a sweeping summary of it and conclude it has "no value".

Tremendous intellectual honesty displayed sir.

It's true that I didn't watch it all and did not know how long the running time is. However, when any of us has been treated to a load of slanted and unsubstantiated allegations, mixed in with historical facts that don't prove anything in themselves and a few downright errors...

it doesn't take another hour to know that the film isn't --and can't be--convincing unless the viewer knows almost nothing of the events to begin with.

 

[Stravinsk]

It's true that I didn't watch it all and did not know how long the running time is. However, when any of us has been treated to a load of slanted and unsubstantiated allegations, mixed in with historical facts that don't prove anything in themselves and a few downright errors...

it doesn't take another hour to know that the film isn't --and can't be--convincing unless the viewer knows almost nothing of the events to begin with.

Nah, I think it's just you being dishonest and willfully ignorant.

Why don't you tell me which 6 million Jews applies to the official narrative? The ones in 1915, or the ones later?

Pre war: 6 million Jews

With all due respect, you do not strike me as a person who really cares about what's true and what is not. Most people don't. They look around them, wherever they are and whatever social norms rule the day, and adapt, like sheep.

 

[Messy]

Given the disposition you have shown so far, I doubt you'll watch this. But someone else might.

Hellstorm

I watched the first one you posted. That was enough for today. Now you owe me. Watch Corrie. Listen to grandma. She doesn't lie.

 

[Albion]

Nah, I think it's just you being dishonest and willfully ignorant.

Why don't you tell me which 6 million Jews applies to the official narrative? The ones in 1915, or the ones later?

Pre war: 6 million Jews

With all due respect, you do not strike me as a person who really cares about what's true and what is not. Most people don't. They look around them, wherever they are and whatever social norms rule the day, and adapt, like sheep.

I'll give you an example.

The video made out that Hitler and Germany were so admired that he was put on the cover of Time Magazine's "Man of the Year" edition in 1939. However, the "Man of the Year" recognition was not intended by Time to be for the most admired person of whatever year, but for the one judged to be most significant for good OR FOR EVIL. Most of the other tyrants of recent memory were similarly "honored" that way by Time, too.

And the issue in question didn't show him in any heroic or flattering pose, but instead represented him as a little man playing music while people he had murdered were shown spinning on a torture wheel, accompanied by this caption: “From the unholy organist, a hymn of hate.”

Your video is propaganda and rather clumsy propaganda at that.

 

[Stravinsk]

I'll give you an example.

The video made out that Hitler and Germany were so admired that he was put on the cover of Time Magazine's "Man of the Year" edition in 1939. However, the "Man of the Year" recognition was not intended by Time to be for the most admired person of whatever year, but for the one judged to be most significant for good OR FOR EVIL. Most of the other tyrants of recent memory were similarly "honored" that way by Time, too.

And the issue in question didn't show him in the familiar portrait, but instead, represented him as a little man playing music while people he had murdered were shown spinning on a torture wheel, accompanied by this caption: “From the unholy organist, a hymn of hate.”

Your video is propaganda and rather clumsy propaganda at that.

Hitler featured on several of Time's features. 1933, 1936, and of course the one you refer to, 1939.

Hitler was certainly admired by many, and not only the Germans. In fact, people from all over the world volunteered to join his army. That included Arabs and people from several western nations. If leaving your country to fight and risk life and limb for "Germany's war" is not admiration, I don't know what is. His admiration by the masses is seen in countless video footage, not only from Germany, but several other locations where the people either welcomed him directly or they welcomed the German army.

But why am I talking to you? Aren't you the guy who watched just a few minutes of a doco, then falsely insinuated you had watched all of it in order to pronounce judgement? Oh yeah, that's you.

 

[Stravinsk]

I watched the first one you posted. That was enough for today. Now you owe me. Watch Corrie. Listen to grandma. She doesn't lie.

I didn't hear grandma say anything but I watched that video. Kudos on her for doing what she thought to be right. As for being released "just prior to be executed" - well...that's a bit of conjecture. There are no German documents or communications that deal with mass executions of concentration camp prisoners. The correspondences, either picked up by the Allies or later found, were in no way indicative of a mass execution plan, rather, a relocation plan, and also in matters of health of the inmates. Sorry, but these are facts.

Now I've watched your video.

Can you tell me how the story of "6 million Jews" goes back waaaaaaay before the war into newspapers in 1915? Did all the 6 million migrate from Russia to Germany just in time for the Nazi's to murder? lol. Watch the other video on pre-war references to 6 million jews in newspapers.

 

[Messy]

Pre war: 6 million Jews

I saw a good video in the comments. She went to Auschwitz.
4:52 What do you think about people who have denied the holocaust over the years?

She's not even mad. She understands it.
Her mother died there. All these survivors say the same thing. They split em up. Some could live. The others were immediately killed.

 

[Messy]

Hitler featured on several of Time's features. 1933, 1936, and of course the one you refer to, 1939.

Hitler was certainly admired by many, and not only the Germans. In fact, people from all over the world volunteered to join his army. That included Arabs and people from several western nations. If leaving your country to fight and risk life and limb for "Germany's war" is not admiration, I don't know what is. His admiration by the masses is seen in countless video footage, not only from Germany, but several other locations where the people either welcomed him directly or they welcomed the German army.

But why am I talking to you? Aren't you the guy who watched just a few minutes of a doco, then falsely insinuated you had watched all of it in order to pronounce judgement? Oh yeah, that's you.

He was admired. He was gonna solve all the problems. Can't you hear and see that he was demon posessed? He had a demonic psychopath stare. When the antichrist comes there will be zero resistance. He will solve all the world's problems. Hitler was just an antichrist.

 

[Stravinsk]

I saw a good video in the comments. She went to Auschwitz.
4:52 What do you think about people who have denied the holocaust over the years?

She's not even mad. She understands it.
Her mother died there. All these survivors say the same thing. They split em up. Some could live. The others were immediately killed.

So you watched a video in the comments and not the one featured. Are you afraid to watch it, Messy? It's just a guy showing old newspaper articles. Nothing that should scare children at night...just people who are convinced the powers that be would never lie or try to manipulate them.

 

[prism]

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It's because of this I have stopped giving my business to Amazon, which heretofore I had readily purchased books (on a variety of subjects) and some other non-book items.

So well done, lol. I had a smile watching the entire video. Roasted!

It's because of this, I will continue my support of Amazon.
I met Mr. Nelms in elementary school, he never met a Jew he didn't curse,
he says we had all been misled because 'Hitler loved the children' ...unless their last name ended in -berg or -mann.

 

[Stravinsk]

It's because of this, I will continue my support of Amazon.
I met Mr. Nelms in elementary school, he never met a Jew he didn't curse,
he says we had all been misled because 'Hitler loved the children' ...unless their last name ended in -berg or -mann.

I don't remember a "Mr. Nelms" being any kind of central figure in the video, which mainly covers the topic of censorship and scholarly research, in particular as it relates to Amazon's decision to bow to special interest groups to remove hundreds of books.

But thank you for displaying a nominal righteous indignation based on a personal experience and not on the content you obviously didn't even watch.

 

[Messy]

I didn't hear grandma say anything but I watched that video. Kudos on her for doing what she thought to be right. As for being released "just prior to be executed" - well...that's a bit of conjecture. There are no German documents or communications that deal with mass executions of concentration camp prisoners. The correspondences, either picked up by the Allies or later found, were in no way indicative of a mass execution plan, rather, a relocation plan, and also in matters of health of the inmates. Sorry, but these are facts.

Now I've watched your video.

Can you tell me how the story of "6 million Jews" goes back waaaaaaay before the war into newspapers in 1915? Did all the 6 million migrate from Russia to Germany just in time for the Nazi's to murder? lol. Watch the other video on pre-war references to 6 million jews in newspapers.

It's an estimation. They don't know how many exactly died, but for instance in the Netherlands:

Of the 140,000 Dutch Jews, 107,000 were deported to the concentration camps. Of these, 5,200 return alive.
Most, more than 60,000, ended up in Auschwitz.

Usually the number of 102,000 victims and 107,000 deportees is held. The number of (approximately) 104,000 victims also includes the Jewish suicides in the Netherlands in the period May 1940 to May 1945 and those who were killed or perished in German captivity in the Netherlands (camp Amersfoort, camp Vught, camp Westerbork, Ellecom, German prisons in Netherlands) and some of whom were given a grave in the Netherlands. It also includes those who perished in hiding and those who made an escape attempt via Belgium and France to Switzerland and/or Spain, but did not survive because they were still imprisoned in those countries. caught or, for example, did not survive the grueling journey across the Pyrenees to Spain.

 

[Messy]

Hitler was certainly admired by many, and not only the Germans. In fact, people from all over the world volunteered to join his army. That included Arabs and people from several western nations.

Yes same antichrist spirit. The Mufti wanted all Jews killed too. He was the uncle from Arafat.

 

[Stravinsk]

It's an estimation. They don't know how many exactly died, but for instance in the Netherlands:

Of the 140,000 Dutch Jews, 107,000 were deported to the concentration camps. Of these, 5,200 return alive.
Most, more than 60,000, ended up in Auschwitz.

Usually the number of 102,000 victims and 107,000 deportees is held. The number of (approximately) 104,000 victims also includes the Jewish suicides in the Netherlands in the period May 1940 to May 1945 and those who were killed or perished in German captivity in the Netherlands (camp Amersfoort, camp Vught, camp Westerbork, Ellecom, German prisons in Netherlands) and some of whom were given a grave in the Netherlands. It also includes those who perished in hiding and those who made an escape attempt via Belgium and France to Switzerland and/or Spain, but did not survive because they were still imprisoned in those countries. caught or, for example, did not survive the grueling journey across the Pyrenees to Spain.

While I can't say anything about the numbers (the correctness of them) the wording here is much more agreeable. "...who were killed or perished in German captivity...." - Doesn't say anything about Germans killing them.

Nobody who has done a trifle research on this subject can say that Germany, along with it's industry, transport and civilian areas weren't nearly obliterated. But even for those who understand this...it doesn't seem to sink in. When you obliterate a country, you obliterate it's means of survival, including those in the camps.

All those starving, emaciated living or dead in the pictures are that way, not because the Germans starved them (they did not), but because the Allies bombed the living hell out the country, destroying supply lines, thus food and basic necessities. THAT is why so many died. Starvation and disease.

But those explanations wouldn't do for the public. International Jewry calling for worldwide economic war against Germany in 1933, years before military action begun, the armaments industry getting in on the action making lots of $$...none of this is of consequence next to the manufactured event of "the final solution" - because that horror (along with all it ridiculous props like human lamp shades and shrunken heads) had to grab the attention of the people of the world so the real murdering decision makers could get off. And of course Israel could parasite off big bad Germany and the rest of the world. I wonder if the average American even knows how much of their money goes to that country every year....not to mention the body bags that come back because of wars for Israel. Yet the churchy sprios keep crying "bless Israel"!

 

[Messy]

While I can't say anything about the numbers (the correctness of them) the wording here is much more agreeable. "...who were killed or perished in German captivity...." - Doesn't say anything about Germans killing them.

Nobody who has done a trifle research on this subject can say that Germany, along with it's industry, transport and civilian areas weren't nearly obliterated. But even for those who understand this...it doesn't seem to sink in. When you obliterate a country, you obliterate it's means of survival, including those in the camps.

All those starving, emaciated living or dead in the pictures are that way, not because the Germans starved them (they did not), but because the Allies bombed the living hell out the country, destroying supply lines, thus food and basic necessities. THAT is why so many died. Starvation and disease.

But those explanations wouldn't do for the public. International Jewry calling for worldwide economic war against Germany in 1933, years before military action begun, the armaments industry getting in on the action making lots of $$...none of this is of consequence next to the manufactured event of "the final solution" - because that horror (along with all it ridiculous props like human lamp shades and shrunken heads) had to grab the attention of the people of the world so the real murdering decision makers could get off. And of course Israel could parasite off big bad Germany and the rest of the world. I wonder if the average American even knows how much of their money goes to that country every year....not to mention the body bags that come back because of wars for Israel. Yet the churchy sprios keep crying "bless Israel"!

Dutch and Dutch Jews had enough to eat until the Germans came. It was forbidden to eat normal. My grandma had to bike 80 km to get some food from a farm in the North and then the Germans could steal it. Corrie was in a camp herself. They beat up her sister, who was a total saint. She couldn't even hate Nazi's who beat her up and now I must believe some guy from a video who is too young to even have been alive at that time? We had camps here in Holland. Sure it can be that they had less food because of the bombings, but should they then have let us all just die or obey Hitler? You think all these survivors from camps are lying?

 

[Messy]

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The Hunger Winter
Source text: Wikipedia - edited by the War Stories Foundation

The Hunger Winter in the Netherlands occurred in the harsh winter of 1944 to 1945. There was a great scarcity of food and fuel. It led to famine, especially in the cities of the western Netherlands.
An estimated 20,000 people died of starvation and cold.

Background
The food and fuel shortage in the west of the Netherlands was mainly caused by the following events:

After the liberation of the southern Netherlands in the autumn of 1944, it was no longer possible to supply coal from the Limburg mines to the Netherlands, which was still occupied by the Germans, above the major rivers.
Due to the General Railway Strike in 1944 (proclaimed on 17 September by the Dutch government in London), transport in the Netherlands was largely halted for several weeks.
The German occupier responded to the strike with reprisal measures, which largely blocked the transport of food to the west. This caused a large-scale famine in the western Netherlands, particularly in the major cities.

Life in the Hunger Winter
Because gas and electricity were no longer produced due to the lack of coal, there was no light, no heating and no opportunity to cook. Lighting could possibly be provided with a squeeze cat, but many made do with a stub of candle and went to bed early. After eight o'clock in the evening, people were no longer allowed to go out on the street because of the curfew.
At central soup kitchens, watery stew or soup made from potato peels could be collected once a day on presentation of a coupon card. That led to long lines of people waiting, which was not easy in the biting cold. If there was even a little food in the house, it still had to be cooked or heated. Often an old tin with a hole in the bottom was used for this, a miracle stove. In it, twigs or wood chips were burned. Randstad Within occupied territory, the situation was worst in the large cities in the Randstad. The food shortage was sometimes so great that people even ate dogs, cats, flower bulbs and sugar beets. Due to a lack of fuel, tarred wood blocks were scrapped between the tram rails. Trees were also cut down illegally. In Amsterdam's Jewish quarter and Nieuwmarkt area, wood was demolished from empty houses from which Jews had been deported. Everything that was flammable was collected to keep the emergency heaters burning. Kill In the cities it was sometimes only with great difficulty that a grave could be found for the dead. The ground was frozen hard and the energy for excavation and transport was lacking. It was also better to use wood for coffins as fuel. In Amsterdam, from February to August 1945, the corpses were stored in the vacant Zuiderkerk. Children's broadcasts About 50,000 malnourished children were evacuated from the western part of the Netherlands by the Interchurch Bureau for Emergency Food Supply and Child Broadcasting, established for this purpose in December 1944. They were transported by barge and placed with host families in the east and north of the Netherlands. On the way back, the ships took food with them. Shortly after the liberation, many malnourished children, 'the pale noses', were taken in for a few months by foster parents in England, Denmark and Sweden, among others, to recuperate. Hunger trips Many people, especially women, cycled or walked to the east or north of the country to get food there, with what little money they had or to exchange possessions: textiles, silver cutlery and gold jewelry for food. They were called hunger trips. Many farmers gave shelter to people who moved across the street.

Foreign aid
In February 1945, Swedish white bread, arranged by the International Red Cross, was distributed. This bread was baked in the Netherlands, the flour came from Sweden by special transport by ship. Pursuant to the Achterveld Agreement, which was agreed on 28 April 1945 and signed on 2 May, on 29 April, under the name of Operation Manna, Allied planes flying in over the sea started dropping food packages, with droppings at Rotterdam (Waalhaven and Terbregge ), Gouda and Ypenburg and under Operation Chowhound with droppings at Duindigt, Valkenburg (South Holland), Utrecht, Hilversum, Schiphol, Vogelenzang and Alkmaar. These operations ran from April 29 through May 8. In the east of this area, Operation Faust also provided food aid by road.

 

[Stravinsk]

Dutch and Dutch Jews had enough to eat until the Germans came. It was forbidden to eat normal. My grandma had to bike 80 km to get some food from a farm in the North and then the Germans could steal it. Corrie was in a camp herself. They beat up her sister, who was a total saint. She couldn't even hate Nazi's who beat her up and now I must believe some guy from a video who is too young to even have been alive at that time? We had camps here in Holland. Sure it can be that they had less food because of the bombings, but should they then have let us all just die or obey Hitler? You think all these survivors from camps are lying?

I know times were rough in Holland. I have heard stories myself from my mom (her family grew up there)....some of her sisters didn't get enough to eat and had to be sent to the UK just to fatten them up.

I have also heard that the allies bombed parts of occupied Holland. If that is true, then part of the blame lies with the leaders and financiers of the Allies.

War is not nice. It is horrible. But who started the war, Messy? Do wars start with military action, or boycotts and sanctions? Did Japan attack Pearl Harbor in a vacuum? No. There were reasons. Did Germany invade Poland for no reason? No, the Poles were brutally murdering the ethnic Germans there. They were influenced by Media...financed by who? My guess it's the same people who financed the 1933 boycott against Germany and fueled the propaganda machine in the west against Germany.

The same people who wanted war.

By the way, Stalin also invaded Poland around the same time as Hitler...but only Germany gets the blame for "starting the war". Why?


Hitler made many many pleas for peace. This is historical record. But the Jewish Financiers did not want peace. Germany had won WW2 initially and Britain was considering peace terms offered by Germany. Good right? Not for the Financiers. They promised Britain's leaders they could get America into the war, and they did. The price was the State of Israel.

You honestly believe God works in this way? He condemned the Jews as outcasts from their land - until they obeyed him and practiced Righteousness. So this bloodbath and deceit is Righteous? Their hold on nearly the whole world with their domination over Banking and predatory lending over nations is Righteous? Their financing wars to place nearly all nations in debt is Righteous?

None of it is. So there is no prophecy that is fulfilled. It is and was criminals and murderers who created the modern state of Israel for their own benefit. The Synagogue of Satan.

As for camps (dutch camps) I know next to nothing. No, I don't think they are all lying. I think many Dutch suffered. But to blame it all on the Germans is completely nearsighted and without broader context.

What I do know, is that at least in some places, the concentration camp inmates were treated humanely. Did you ever bother to watch this?

Holocaust Survivor Testimonies You DIDN'T hear

 

[Messy]

I know times were rough in Holland. I have heard stories myself from my mom (her family grew up there)....some of her sisters didn't get enough to eat and had to be sent to the UK just to fatten them up.

I have also heard that the allies bombed parts of occupied Holland. If that is true, then part of the blame lies with the leaders and financiers of the Allies.

War is not nice. It is horrible. But who started the war, Messy? Do wars start with military action, or boycotts and sanctions? Did Japan attack Pearl Harbor in a vacuum? No. There were reasons. Did Germany invade Poland for no reason? No, the Poles were brutally murdering the ethnic Germans there. They were influenced by Media...financed by who? My guess it's the same people who financed the 1933 boycott against Germany and fueled the propaganda machine in the west against Germany.

The same people who wanted war.

By the way, Stalin also invaded Poland around the same time as Hitler...but only Germany gets the blame for "starting the war". Why?


Hitler made many many pleas for peace. This is historical record. But the Jewish Financiers did not want peace. Germany had won WW2 initially and Britain was considering peace terms offered by Germany. Good right? Not for the Financiers. They promised Britain's leaders they could get America into the war, and they did. The price was the State of Israel.

You honestly believe God works in this way? He condemned the Jews as outcasts from their land - until they obeyed him and practiced Righteousness. So this bloodbath and deceit is Righteous? Their hold on nearly the whole world with their domination over Banking and predatory lending over nations is Righteous? Their financing wars to place nearly all nations in debt is Righteous?

None of it is. So there is no prophecy that is fulfilled. It is and was criminals and murderers who created the modern state of Israel for their own benefit. The Synagogue of Satan.

As for camps (dutch camps) I know next to nothing. No, I don't think they are all lying. I think many Dutch suffered. But to blame it all on the Germans is completely nearsighted and without broader context.

What I do know, is that at least in some places, the concentration camp inmates were treated humanely. Did you ever bother to watch this?

Holocaust Survivor Testimonies You DIDN'T hear

Polish killed Germans? Never heard of that. We didn't kill Germans. We wanted to stay neutral. We were neutral in WWI and also the family from Corrie and a lot of others fed the poor German kids after WWI only to later get betrayed by a kid they helped, who grew up and became a Nazi and beat up their Jewish employee. We did nothing and the Germans just bombed 2 cities. Amsterdam had a lot of Jews, so they bombed that. Hitler started it.

Even if there are evil Jews, lets say it is all their fault, then what? That gives them the right to kill innocent Jews? Kids? Yeah cause Rothschild is so rich you must die. Insane. There were christians Jews. They murdered them too.

 

[Albion]

Nobody who has done a trifle research on this subject can say that Germany, along with it's industry, transport and civilian areas weren't nearly obliterated.

That does indeed seem to be what's motivating your effort here. The reality is, though, that it isn't necessary to re-invent or "clean up" Adolf Hitler's image and alter the facts of history IN ORDER TO SAY THAT SOMEONE ELSE ALSO SUFFERED as a result of the coming of the Third Reich and WW II. And trying to back up your story line by using that quixotic, revisionist video only made it much worse, if you only knew.

 

[prism]

I don't remember a "Mr. Nelms" being any kind of central figure in the video, which mainly covers the topic of censorship and scholarly research, in particular as it relates to Amazon's decision to bow to special interest groups to remove hundreds of books.

But thank you for displaying a nominal righteous indignation based on a personal experience and not on the content you obviously didn't even watch.

Personal experience mixed with a grain of poetic license. Mr. Nelms (a childhood acquaintance) typified much of America's attitude in the 1950s (shortly after the war) having been infected with Nazi propaganda. Little Johnny N. has grown up today where they call him Mr. N.