Is he right?

[Jazzy]

Home Depot founder says rise of 'socialism' makes people too lazy for work. Is he right? Is our society getting fat and lazy?

 

[Messy]

Yes. Noone will work if you don't have to, except maybe some workaholic. Not totally, most ppl want a nice part time job, cause doing nothing is boring, but they warned us in primary school that communism was bad, cause why would you do any effort to study and work hard when everyone gets the same amount of money for it? That's stupid. You slave away for others to chill. And that's exactly what we have now in Holland. Only with 2 incomes or with a real good job you have a load of money and a big nice house, but the middle class here has often the guy working full time or part time, but then 32 hours and the woman works 24 hours when they have kids and otherwise 32. But there are no houses, so they have to rent an insane expensive one from the real rich, while someone who refuses to work gets a nice govt house, that's just as big, but 3 times as cheap, so now ppl complain and wonder why we attract immigrants who don't want to work and just get money and a house. Why not? And they say it's discrimination if they don't get it, which is true. Now I understand why America was always like: go work and if you're too lazy not our problem, cause they always had loads of immigrants from all over the world. But not only this soft socialism is bad. Capitalism is also bad. They now changed the rules here. Some filthy rich Canadians bought houses here to rent to others for insane prices and that's now forbidden luckily. That's also getting money for doing nothing. Capitalism is getting a cosy job and being paid way more than the ones who do the lousy hard jobs. Combine that with getting govt money if you're too lazy and you have half communism for the ones that are not filthy rich, cause it doesnt matter if you dont work, work part time or full time, everyone gets around 2000 a month, so why on earth would ppl go slave away for the rich or for the otherwise poor, who can easily work themselves?

 

[Stravinsk]

Yes. Noone will work if you don't have to, except maybe some workaholic. Not totally, most ppl want a nice part time job, cause doing nothing is boring, but they warned us in primary school that communism was bad, cause why would you do any effort to study and work hard when everyone gets the same amount of money for it? That's stupid. You slave away for others to chill. And that's exactly what we have now in Holland. Only with 2 incomes or with a real good job you have a load of money and a big nice house, but the middle class here has often the guy working full time or part time, but then 32 hours and the woman works 24 hours when they have kids and otherwise 32. But there are no houses, so they have to rent an insane expensive one from the real rich, while someone who refuses to work gets a nice govt house, that's just as big, but 3 times as cheap, so now ppl complain and wonder why we attract immigrants who don't want to work and just get money and a house. Why not? And they say it's discrimination if they don't get it, which is true. Now I understand why America was always like: go work and if you're too lazy not our problem, cause they always had loads of immigrants from all over the world. But not only this soft socialism is bad. Capitalism is also bad. They now changed the rules here. Some filthy rich Canadians bought houses here to rent to others for insane prices and that's now forbidden luckily. That's also getting money for doing nothing. Capitalism is getting a cosy job and being paid way more than the ones who do the lousy hard jobs. Combine that with getting govt money if you're too lazy and you have half communism for the ones that are not filthy rich, cause it doesnt matter if you dont work, work part time or full time, everyone gets around 2000 a month, so why on earth would ppl go slave away for the rich or for the otherwise poor, who can easily work themselves?

Houses for immigrants? The poor native dutch must work full time to afford a crap apartment?

Just relax. They have it all under control. Soon there will be no more native dutch, just like there will be no more native German, Swedish, etc. The only race left will be them. Because remember, their book says they are the master race.

Barbara Spectre

Barbara Spectre "Europe has not yet learn to be multi cultural...its a transformation that must take place, without it Europe will not survive"

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[Messy]

Houses for immigrants? The poor native dutch must work full time to afford a crap apartment?

Just relax. They have it all under control. Soon there will be no more native dutch, just like there will be no more native German, Swedish, etc. The only race left will be them. Because remember, their book says they are the master race.

Barbara Spectre

Barbara Spectre "Europe has not yet learn to be multi cultural...its a transformation that must take place, without it Europe will not survive"

odysee.com

Antisemitism? I don't hear much here about antisemitism here, except that they think Israel should be nice to the Palestinians, but meanwhile we don't want muslims either, except when they work and cause no trouble. Sometimes there's some Syrian or whatever guy in the Newspaper whining that his house with 4 rooms is not big enough and Dutch ppl get furious. Be happy that you even have a house. Ukrainians may come, a load live in the building where I work. But Syrians and such are not welcome anymore by a lot of ppl, but the govt lets all the muslims in, but there are no houses anymore and now the new ones are crammed in huge buildings without any privacy and they put a lot on a cruise ship. Last year they were outside in tents. Every country only thinks about themselves. Denmark doesn't take any immigrants. Selfish people. Germany took a lot. We don't have so many, but the rich have for decades refused to build normal cheap houses and now there are no houses. Kids have to live with their parents until they're in their 30s. My nephew has a good job, but he can't find a house to buy. But the hate is towards immigrants and not Jews. Jews just work or they go to Israel. You can't blame the Syrians. They also want to live normal and a lot want to work, but they may not and the older ones or also young ones who may work rather don't work either of course. Why work hard when you can get govt money? One Syrian guy was a surgeon. He really wanted to work, but his diploma's don't count here, so he said my job is now getting the groceries. It's a mess. And we have loads and loads of holiday houses and caravans, but noone may live there permanently. And if they want to build new houses, ah, a pity, there is some fish or badger who lives there and they come first.

 

[Stravinsk]

I wonder if you have researched the subject. Across the board, Jewish Rabbis and leaders push for immigration and multi-culturalism. At the same time, Israel has some of the strictest immigration policies in the world.

The point of all this is simple. As a people who have been kicked out of European countries countless times over more than 1000 years, they do not feel comfortable in places where there is a strong attachment to race, religion and culture. They need a "melting pot" where their control cannot meet any significant resistance. Anything else is "racism". That is why government leaders push for immigration, give out houses to non-working immigrants and let the native race/culture/religion die a slow death. Why marry a Dutchman (or Swede, or German or whatever) when the non-European gets a generous house and welfare payment?

It's by design.

 

[Messy]

I wonder if you have researched the subject. Across the board, Jewish Rabbis and leaders push for immigration and multi-culturalism. At the same time, Israel has some of the strictest immigration policies in the world.

The point of all this is simple. As a people who have been kicked out of European countries countless times over more than 1000 years, they do not feel comfortable in places where there is a strong attachment to race, religion and culture. They need a "melting pot" where their control cannot meet any significant resistance. Anything else is "racism". That is why government leaders push for immigration, give out houses to non-working immigrants and let the native race/culture/religion die a slow death. Why marry a Dutchman (or Swede, or German or whatever) when the non-European gets a generous house and welfare payment?

It's by design.

I didn't know that there are also Jewish rabbi's who do that, but they all do it. Europe forces Holland to take an amount of immigrants and give them a good place to live. They don't care that houses here are scarse. In Germany the rules are different. They have to work hard. We were always social and it worked when everyone worked and the few that really couldn't were taken care of, but now Dutch people have been taking advantage of it for ages. In the 70s if you were too lazy, you just got govt money and a house and they took muslims in from Morocco to do the lousy jobs, like cleaning, that we were too lazy for. Those ppl are also not dumb. They go do the same thing and now you attract everyone from all over the world who wants to come mooch.

 

[Messy]

I wonder if you have researched the subject. Across the board, Jewish Rabbis and leaders push for immigration and multi-culturalism. At the same time, Israel has some of the strictest immigration policies in the world.

Socialism has Jewish influence. No wonder. It's in the Bible. They had to be kind to the stranger who wanted to come live there. They weren't allowed to ask interest when they gave someone a loan. After 7 or 70 years the debts were gone. But only for their own people. They had to give tithes for the poor. It's Biblical, so we did that too as a christian country ages ago. The church got tithes and gave it to the poor. You still see christian parties are friendly to immigrants, well, one is and the other one isn't, but they're strict reformed. I vote for the ones who are friendly to immigrants, cause it's the biggest sin to not be hospitable. But the govt took over and they don't care about Biblical principles like don't work, don't eat and love your neighbour is fine, but the Samaritan didn't give his money to the robbers.

 

[Stravinsk]

Socialism has Jewish influence. No wonder. It's in the Bible. They had to be kind to the stranger who wanted to come live there. They weren't allowed to ask interest when they gave someone a loan.

You can't even get an interest free loan as a citizen of Israel. Jews charging Jews interest. The people who run the international monetary system really don't care about Torah and prophets.

After 7 or 70 years the debts were gone. But only for their own people. They had to give tithes for the poor. It's Biblical, so we did that too as a christian country ages ago. The church got tithes and gave it to the poor. You still see christian parties are friendly to immigrants, well, one is and the other one isn't, but they're strict reformed. I vote for the ones who are friendly to immigrants, cause it's the biggest sin to not be hospitable. But the govt took over and they don't care about Biblical principles like don't work, don't eat and love your neighbour is fine, but the Samaritan didn't give his money to the robbers.

Refugees are immigrants that bring their culture and religion to receptive countries. What entities started the wars that made them refugees in the first place, and what entities push for their migration all over the world, but never to the state of Israel?

 

[Stravinsk]

Messy, do you know WHY New York was originally New Amsterdam?

The Netherlands was not much of an imperialist country until...what event? The Jews were kicked out of Spain, and they found reception in Holland. From there they started the slave trade.

In today's media....the white man is blamed for this, but in reality it was not the ethnic people of Europe that started the slave trade.

 

[Messy]

Refugees are immigrants that bring their culture and religion to receptive countries. What entities started the wars that made them refugees in the first place, and what entities push for their migration all over the world, but never to the state of Israel?

I think a group of world leaders is behind it, who pave the way for the antichrist.
Those filthy rich in Saoudi Arabia can take immigrants and pay for them. There are filthy rich everywhere.
Since I was a kid we were the bozo rich country that got rich from slavery and we had to help Africa, but those filthy rich there took all the money and the people are still poor. Dutch migrated to Canada, America. There was noone behind it. They just wanted room and money, just like all the other immigrants. Noone wants to be persecuted and live in a rotten place. Everyone wants to live nice and calm in a rich country without wars.

A woman from Valdres, Norway warned for this to happen ages ago in a prophecy. She said there will be too many and they're gonna hate them and treat them like they treated the Jews before WWII and then the measure of our sins will be full and a bomb falls, WWIII and Jesus comes, rapture. The air above the rich countries will be polluted and they will want to go to the poor countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them.

 

[Messy]

Messy, do you know WHY New York was originally New Amsterdam?

The Netherlands was not much of an imperialist country until...what event? The Jews were kicked out of Spain, and they found reception in Holland. From there they started the slave trade.

In today's media....the white man is blamed for this, but in reality it was not the ethnic people of Europe that started the slave trade.

They were all nasty. Dutch people had slaves. Even Africans made their own people slaves. Nastiness is not something from only the white and there were a lot who had nothing to do with it.

 

[Messy]

De nieuwe inquisitie

Dit is een verkorte versie van ‘The Slave Trade and the Jews’, dat verscheen in The New York Review of Books van 22 december 1994. Vertaling: Tinke Davids Pestepidemieen, het kapitalisme, de communistische revolutie: het is allemaal al sinds jaar en dag de schuld van de joden. Aan dat rijtje is...

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Traders in the Atlantic slave system included Arabs, Africans, Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Jews, Germans, Swedes, French, English, White Americans, Indians, and even thousands of blacks in the New World who had been freed and became slave-owning farmers or planters themselves. The responsibility, then, rests with peoples of all kinds who shared in the enormous profits made by the first multinational mass-market production system—the production of sugar, tobacco, coffee, dyes, spices, cotton, and so on.

It is both remarkable and disturbing that before the end of the eighteenth century this Atlantic slave system hardly aroused serious protest. The major world religions have long sanctioned slavery; popes blessed the first Portuguese slave traders and Islamic jihads justified the enslavement of countless sub-Saharan infidels for centuries. In Barbados, the Church of England owned hundreds of slaves in the eighteenth century, and many devout Quakers were actively involved in the slave trade as late as the 1850s. The small number of Jews in the Atlantic community accepted the enslavement of blacks as naturally as the Catholics, Muslims, Lutherans, Huguenots, Calvinists, and Anglicans.
For four centuries, the African slave trade was an integral part of European expansion and colonization of the New World.


And by the way there's still slavery. Kids in China make our clothes.

 

[Albion]

They had to be kind to the stranger who wanted to come live there. They weren't allowed to ask interest when they gave someone a loan. After 7 or 70 years the debts were gone. But only for their own people. They had to give tithes for the poor. It's Biblical, so we did that too as a christian country ages ago. The church got tithes and gave it to the poor. You still see christian parties are friendly to immigrants, well, one is and the other one isn't, but they're strict reformed. I vote for the ones who are friendly to immigrants, cause it's the biggest sin to not be hospitable.

In short, these ideas ^ or claims are dangled before the masses in order to justify the ultimate goal, which is

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But the govt took over and they don't care about Biblical principles

 

[Albion]

Traders in the Atlantic slave system included Arabs, Africans, Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Jews, Germans, Swedes, French, English, White Americans, Indians, and even thousands of blacks in the New World who had been freed and became slave-owning farmers or planters themselves. The responsibility, then, rests with peoples of all kinds who shared in the enormous profits made by the first multinational mass-market production system—the production of sugar, tobacco, coffee, dyes, spices, cotton, and so on.

It is both remarkable and disturbing that before the end of the eighteenth century this Atlantic slave system hardly aroused serious protest.

...which is not surprising, considering that slavery had existed from the earliest days of human history; and change usually comes gradually.

And by the way there's still slavery. Kids in China make our clothes.

It was Christianity that ultimately brought about the end of slavery on the scale that you were speaking of...and also to the idea that it can be acceptable. The greatest war in history up to that time (1860s) was fought to end slavery, and it was Christian abolitionists who had campaigned for decades before that, insisting that it was time to put an end to the immoral institution of slavery.

 

[Josiah]

Yes.


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[Albion]

Yes. Noone* will work if you don't have to, except maybe some workaholic.

*Yes, he's still performing.

Peter Noone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Origen]

*Yes, he's still performing.

Peter Noone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Albion]

In a more serious vein, the most common mistake people make about these "isms" is in thinking that Socialism is what it says it is.

Messy said:

Now I understand why America was always like: go work and if you're too lazy not our problem, cause they always had loads of immigrants from all over the world. But not only this soft socialism is bad. Capitalism is also bad. They now changed the rules here. Some filthy rich Canadians bought houses here to rent to others for insane prices and that's now forbidden luckily. That's also getting money for doing nothing. Capitalism is getting a cosy job and being paid way more than the ones who do the lousy hard jobs.

Socialism has its millionaire "Capitalists" don't you know? It's a system that throws crumbs to the masses so that the rich will not have to compete, and that's because the rich are the allies of a government that doesn't tolerate any opposition. This isn't Capitalism! It's the opposite of free enterprise and private initiative.

 

[Messy]

In a more serious vein, the most common mistake people make about these "isms" is in thinking that Socialism is what it says it is.


Socialism has its millionaire "Capitalists" don't you know? It's a system that throws crumbs to the masses so that the rich will not have to compete, and that's because the rich are the allies of a government that doesn't tolerate any opposition. This isn't Capitalism! It's the opposite of free enterprise and private initiative.

It all doesn't work, because people are selfish. I don't know what's worse, loads of homeless and people working 3 jobs to live in an insane expensive house or the govt regulating it, but they will use that to control everyone when the antichrist comes. For now it's nice. I rather live like this than be forced to work 2 jobs to give some house owner way too much money.
We can best get a theocracy with Jesus ruling. In Acts it was almost communism, but not forced and not with some horrid rich leaders.
And here people are forced to work for others, who don't want to work, but they do that in America too, just a bit different. If one ex is too lazy to work, they force the other ex to pay or throw em in jail. That's also here, but less bad and they don't throw em in jail if they refuse. And when I watched dr. Phil, there were always these mooches who act like they're pitiful and then their family is stuck with it and can't kick em out. Here everyone pays a bit for those, so they don't bother one person. We had a lazy couple in church. First one couple gave em their old house, but got enough of it, so then another couple fell for it. Farmers. They work really hard and always help people and have people live there. So that guy said: Can you help me on the farm? Wut? Of course not. He was there to mooch and she acted dumb. She was the housewife. They kicked em out. Now the govt pays them and it irritates everyone a bit, but not one couple a lot and you can't dump these kids on the street.

 

[Messy]

In a more serious vein, the most common mistake people make about these "isms" is in thinking that Socialism is what it says it is.


Socialism has its millionaire "Capitalists" don't you know? It's a system that throws crumbs to the masses so that the rich will not have to compete, and that's because the rich are the allies of a government that doesn't tolerate any opposition. This isn't Capitalism! It's the opposite of free enterprise and private initiative.

Not here. We have a socialist party. They don't reign. I'm not gonna vote for them, because they're pro abortion, pro euthanasia, anti Israel, but they are not rich. They don't get paid as much as the others, because they think that's not social. And our prime minister doesn't get paid too insane much and he arrives on his bike. Only the king gets a lot and a lot want to get rid of him, but he's a nice guy.