Point out problems

[Jazzy]

Should those who point out problems also offer solutions or it enough to just point out issues?

 

[Messy]

Only if they accuse someone else. Normally, no, pointing it out is enough, but if it becomes complaining or accusing, then yes, do it yourself and stop whining. Like my upstairs neighbour who hears the door shut too hard. To have her stop whining I removed the stuff that keeps the wind out, cause it's summer now, but actually I'm like put ear plugs in your ears and stop whining or just ask me normal. I hate whining.

 

[tango]

Should those who point out problems also offer solutions or it enough to just point out issues?

It's good if you can suggest a solution but I wouldn't say it's essential.

Personally I'm wary of pointing out too many problems without at least suggesting a partial solution, because doing that can rapidly turn into just griping at everything in sight without offering anything to improve it.

 

[Stravinsk]

Sometimes knowing there is a problem and addressing it as such can lead to solutions even if one doesn't have a viable one to offer.

For example: Anyone who has taken the time to understand the basics of fractional reserve lending knows it's a giant fraud, and ultimately the taxpayers have to foot the bill when the inevitable crashes come. They pay in reduced purchasing power (inflation), they pay in the confiscation of wealth (the lenders $$ is worth more when it's created), and ultimately they pay when the lenders rule everything around them (the end goal).

One of the solutions to this was crypto-currency. There are others. In the past, Hitler took a demoralized Germany post WWI, that was awash in corruption, prostitution (even of starving children) and debt, removed all the people in power who were benefiting from this, and created a currency that was backed by labor, as well as implementing barter. Germany recovered in just a few years while the rest of the West was still mired in the Great Depression.

 

[Messy]

Sometimes knowing there is a problem and addressing it as such can lead to solutions even if one doesn't have a viable one to offer.

For example: Anyone who has taken the time to understand the basics of fractional reserve lending knows it's a giant fraud, and ultimately the taxpayers have to foot the bill when the inevitable crashes come. They pay in reduced purchasing power (inflation), they pay in the confiscation of wealth (the lenders $$ is worth more when it's created), and ultimately they pay when the lenders rule everything around them (the end goal).

One of the solutions to this was crypto-currency. There are others. In the past, Hitler took a demoralized Germany post WWI, that was awash in corruption, prostitution (even of starving children) and debt, removed all the people in power who were benefiting from this, and created a currency that was backed by labor, as well as implementing barter. Germany recovered in just a few years while the rest of the West was still mired in the Great Depression.

They stole all the belongings from Jews, also Dutch Jews and also from Dutch christians, who helped them. Corrie ten Boom and her family, after WWI took poor German kids in, to feed them, to get healthy and strong, help their parents. Then with WWII one guy they fed as a kid came back. He was now a Nazi. He beat up their Jewish worker in a watch shop, who was absolutely not rich. You should watch her movie or read her book.

Hitler was demon posessed.

 

[Stravinsk]

They stole all the belongings from Jews, also Dutch Jews and also from Dutch christians, who helped them. Corrie ten Boom and her family, after WWI took poor German kids in, to feed them, to get healthy and strong, help their parents. Then with WWII one guy they fed as a kid came back. He was now a Nazi. He beat up their Jewish worker in a watch shop, who was absolutely not rich. You should watch her movie or read her book.

Hitler was demon posessed.

This probably isn't the thread to have this conversation. I offered that story in my above post because it's true. The world continued to suffer the Great Depression and Germany did a complete 180 and thrived. Knowing the problem(s) is key to finding the solutions.

 

[Albion]

In the past, Hitler took a demoralized Germany post WWI, that was awash in corruption, prostitution (even of starving children) and debt, removed all the people in power who were benefiting from this, and created a currency that was backed by labor,

That's a fascinating way to say that forced labor gets things done, and that one set of "people in power...benefitting from" corruption is preferable to a different one benefitting from corruption.

 

[Stravinsk]

That's a fascinating way to say that forced labor gets things done, and that one set of "people in power...benefitting from" corruption is preferable to a different one benefitting from corruption.

The interest free money the Nazis issued that was based on labor was for the German people to use. It was based on their labor. Perhaps you have forgotten your basic American history on the War? I don't know what rubbish they teach nowadays. Germany's economy had been decimated and the currency was worthless under the Wiemar Republic. Prior to the inflation to pay the debt, Germany was under a mountain of this debt under the Treaty of Versailles.

The corruption was similar to what we are seeing today. Did you know that the first sex re-assignment happened in Germany (not elsewhere in Europe) prior to the Nazi regime? Did you know the first homosexual films and theater were pushed in the 20's in Germany, prior to the Nazi regime? Did you know that drug use and alcohol abuse was rampant, as well as prostitution in Germany in the 20's prior to the Nazi regime? Could the average German citizen make a living? No. A very large percentage were unemployed. Hence, the widespread corruption, prostitution, even of children.

No, you probably weren't taught any of that. Just like you probably weren't taught anything about the 10's of millions of Christians that died in Russia during the Bolshevick Revolution. Neither was I, thanks to my American history classes. That's all un-important. Horror stories about 6million dying has been the focus since then. In your history books. In your museums, and in your Spielberg movies.

 

[Messy]

The interest free money the Nazis issued that was based on labor was for the German people to use. It was based on their labor. Perhaps you have forgotten your basic American history on the War? I don't know what rubbish they teach nowadays. Germany's economy had been decimated and the currency was worthless under the Wiemar Republic. Prior to the inflation to pay the debt, Germany was under a mountain of this debt under the Treaty of Versailles.

The corruption was similar to what we are seeing today. Did you know that the first sex re-assignment happened in Germany (not elsewhere in Europe) prior to the Nazi regime? Did you know the first homosexual films and theater were pushed in the 20's in Germany, prior to the Nazi regime? Did you know that drug use and alcohol abuse was rampant, as well as prostitution in Germany in the 20's prior to the Nazi regime? Could the average German citizen make a living? No. A very large percentage were unemployed. Hence, the widespread corruption, prostitution, even of children.

No, you probably weren't taught any of that. Just like you probably weren't taught anything about the 10's of millions of Christians that died in Russia during the Bolshevick Revolution. Neither was I, thanks to my American history classes. That's all un-important. Horror stories about 6million dying has been the focus since then. In your history books. In your museums, and in your Spielberg movies.

Christians and Jews were persecuted in Russia. Who didn't know that?
Now the same thing will happen and you already see it happen a bit. People get grumpy, cause they can't get a house and immigrants can. It's always the fault of the other ones, Jews, muslims, whatever. According to a prophesy from a woman from Valdres: when the hate becomes like it was before WWII a bomb will fall.

 

[Albion]

The interest free money the Nazis issued that was based on labor was for the German people to use. It was based on their labor. Perhaps you have forgotten your basic American history on the War? I don't know what rubbish they teach nowadays. Germany's economy had been decimated and the currency was worthless under the Wiemar Republic. Prior to the inflation to pay the debt, Germany was under a mountain of this debt under the Treaty of Versailles.

The corruption was similar to what we are seeing today. Did you know that the first sex re-assignment happened in Germany (not elsewhere in Europe) prior to the Nazi regime? Did you know the first homosexual films and theater were pushed in the 20's in Germany, prior to the Nazi regime? Did you know that drug use and alcohol abuse was rampant, as well as prostitution in Germany in the 20's prior to the Nazi regime? Could the average German citizen make a living? No. A very large percentage were unemployed. Hence, the widespread corruption, prostitution, even of children.

No, you probably weren't taught any of that. Just like you probably weren't taught anything about the 10's of millions of Christians that died in Russia during the Bolshevick Revolution. Neither was I, thanks to my American history classes. That's all un-important. Horror stories about 6million dying has been the focus since then. In your history books. In your museums, and in your Spielberg movies.

Interesting ramblings and speculation there, but it would take me too much time and typing to correct each one of the errors in that post.

 

[Stravinsk]

Christians and Jews were persecuted in Russia. Who didn't know that?

How many movies or books have you seen that deal with the purge of and persecution of millions of Christians in Russia between 1921-1941? Millions upon millions were murdered. Do you feel anything for them? I'm guessing not. It's hard to when you don't have lots of tear-jerk stories and expertly done films (Schindler's List, Sophie's choice) etc on them. By the way, Schindler's list was based on the fictional book Schindler's Ark. I watched it when I was young. I cried. Extremely well done, and also a fictional holocaust story.


What do you know of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky and Joseph Stalin? Do any feelings of hatred come up with these names like they do with Adolf Hitler? No? Them or the ideologies behind them murdered millions but who cares right? Only 6 million Jews matter. Except the official death toll was lowered for Auschwitz from 4million to 1million. But we are expected not to be able to do math. 6m - 3m =6m. Lord have mercy. Israeli Historians Welcome Revision Of Auschwitz Death Toll

Now the same thing will happen and you already see it happen a bit. People get grumpy, cause they can't get a house and immigrants can. It's always the fault of the other ones, Jews, muslims, whatever. According to a prophesy from a woman from Valdres: when the hate becomes like it was before WWII a bomb will fall.

It's a proven fact that many Jewish influencers and spokespersons are for the heavy immigration of Europe by other ethnic peoples, including their religions that come with them. While Israel (the presently recognized State) has some of the most stringent rules regarding immigration to it's land.


Ever wonder why? They get to keep their "pure" heritage and religion, but everyone else gets a big dose of "multi-culturalism". The fact is, for the "Jewish Messiah" (according to their belief) to come and rule, THEY must be rulers of the nations. Nations with strong cultural and religious ties (non-Jewish ones) are not conducive to their vision.


What would you think if a Westerner read "Mien Kampf"? Probably turned into a crazed neo-Nazi skinhead, right? That's what Hollywood tells you.


Here's a rabbi who read it(cut to 3 minutes because I know attention spans are short):


Jewish Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Ben Porat on Mein Kampf

 

[Messy]

How many movies or books have you seen that deal with the purge of and persecution of millions of Christians in Russia between 1921-1941? Millions upon millions were murdered. Do you feel anything for them? I'm guessing not. It's hard to when you don't have lots of tear-jerk stories and expertly done films (Schindler's List, Sophie's choice) etc on them. By the way, Schindler's list was based on the fictional book Schindler's Ark. I watched it when I was young. I cried. Extremely well done, and also a fictional holocaust story.


What do you know of Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky and Joseph Stalin? Do any feelings of hatred come up with these names like they do with Adolf Hitler? No? Them or the ideologies behind them murdered millions but who cares right? Only 6 million Jews matter. Except the official death toll was lowered for Auschwitz from 4million to 1million. But we are expected not to be able to do math. 6m - 3m =6m. Lord have mercy. Israeli Historians Welcome Revision Of Auschwitz Death Toll



It's a proven fact that many Jewish influencers and spokespersons are for the heavy immigration of Europe by other ethnic peoples, including their religions that come with them. While Israel (the presently recognized State) has some of the most stringent rules regarding immigration to it's land.


Ever wonder why? They get to keep their "pure" heritage and religion, but everyone else gets a big dose of "multi-culturalism". The fact is, for the "Jewish Messiah" (according to their belief) to come and rule, THEY must be rulers of the nations. Nations with strong cultural and religious ties (non-Jewish ones) are not conducive to their vision.


What would you think if a Westerner read "Mien Kampf"? Probably turned into a crazed neo-Nazi skinhead, right? That's what Hollywood tells you.


Here's a rabbi who read it(cut to 3 minutes because I know attention spans are short):


Jewish Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Ben Porat on Mein Kampf

And the English killed the Indians. I thought I read also 30.000 died from starvation, cause they stole their food to fund the war. People are not nice. So Hitler hated Jews because they were communists. Hate and murder are always evil. I think Putin may have a point with his talk about Nazi's, cause Russia will defeat the antichrist and I saw that that guy who said in 2010 that China would catch a cold, he saw that Chinese guy and Putin talk about the Anglo Saxon mission, since his video was translated in Chinese. Anyway, it doesn't make Putin any friendlier. He's still murderous and demon posessed.