Tribulation Trivia

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● Matt 24:21 . . For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning
of the world until now-- and never to be equaled again.

Some of the individual events in the book of Revelation may not seem all that
significant by themselves, but when the entire scenario is compiled, the era
depicted becomes spectacular.
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Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale that
cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was demolished
by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a few acres of New York City. Just
imagine the body count when all of Manhattan comes down at once. along with
other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City, Paris, Moscow,
Beijing, Tokyo, et al. The carnage will be beyond belief; and a great many of the
dead will be infants and underage children.

The Bible says that we should consider not only God's benevolence, but also His
severity. (Rom 11:22) We're dealing with a someone in control far more terrifying
than even the tyrants of North Korea, Communist China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran,
and the awful regimes in Africa.

● Heb 12:29 . . For our God is a consuming fire.

That's a quote from Deut 4:24 which, in context, doesn't describe God's physical
characteristics, rather, it's a figure of speech illustrating rage: defined by Webster's
as violent and uncontrolled anger. It's hard to imagine Christianity's divine patron
ticked off to that extent, but there it is.

* A consuming fire is one that cannot be extinguished, i.e. once it gets going,
there's no stopping till all that's aflame is utterly destroyed, viz: an unquenchable
conflagration.
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One day a great earthquake shook the whole earth with extreme magnitude. [ MAT 24:7, MAR 13:8, LUK 21:11, REV 6:12, 8:5, 11:13, 11:19, 16:18, ISA 24 ] Millions of people were killed and the whole world was stunned by the devastation and loss of property and life. [ LUK 21:26 ] •

I saw a tall triangular building with a glass exterior fall and kill two hundred people. This building was not in existence when I had this dream, but it is now in the very place I saw it fall. The earthquake was worldwide and I had never heard of such an event reaching global proportions.

 

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● Rev 8:7 . .The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire
mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was
burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned
up.

There's quite a bit of destruction depicted in that verse; and I suspect it's all aimed
at agriculture.

First a portion of the soil's organic material is destroyed which will greatly impact its
fertility.

Next a portion of the trees are destroyed so that foods derived from trees-- e.g.
nuts, and fruits-- will become in short supply.

And finally all the green grass; which is translated from words that suggest crops
will be just starting to mature and produce grain, e.g. corn, beans, wheat, spelt,
barley, oats, and rice; et al.

* Rice is a staple food for over ½ of the world's human population, particularly in
Asia and Africa.

NOTE: Although crops will be burned, they'll bounce back. (Rev 9:1-4)

Anyway, when the availability of food stuffs is limited; demand exceeds supply; and
with that prices go up.
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• Rev 16:8-11 . .Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, causing it to
scorch everyone with its fire. Everyone was burned by this blast of heat, and they
cursed the name of God, who sent all of these plagues. They did not repent and
give him glory.

. . .Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his
kingdom was plunged into darkness. And his subjects ground their teeth in anguish,
and they cursed the God of heaven for their pains and sores. But they refused to
repent of all their evil deeds.

Pharaoh stiffened his resolve during those miraculous events in the book of Exodus,
but to my knowledge he never once cursed God. Well these folks in Revelation
show just how hostile and militant the human heart can really get in its resistance
to God's demands. Pretty amazing.
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• Rev 16:12 . . And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river
Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the
east might be prepared.

That is curious because in modern warfare; rivers, and even oceans, present no
obstacle to military aircraft. But where are the airplanes in Revelation; and where
are all the mechanized conveyances? Well; there are none, and in point of fact, war
in Revelation is portrayed as fought on horseback and armies move on foot. I have
an uneasy feeling that the way of life with which us modern folks are accustomed is
coming to an end.
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When I was a developing Christian back in the decade of the 1970's, a radio Bible
teacher recommended a book by J. Dwight Pentecost titled "Things To Come"
(ISBN 0-310-30890-9)

It proved an excellent resource at the time because I was very interested in Israel's
future and all the end time events. The book is still in print and can be had from
Amazon dot com. I'd guess that most book stores can order it too if it's not on their
shelves.
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● Rev 6:12 . . I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great
earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon
turned blood red

Astronomically, that depicts a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse simultaneously;
which nature by itself cannot produce due to specific alignment requirements.

● Rev 6:13 . . and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree
when shaken by a strong wind.

Those will likely be shooting stars (a.k.a. meteors) and possibly asteroids too,
rather than solar bodies like Polaris, Sirius, Betelgeuse, and/or Rigel which would
cause impacts that the Earth simply cannot accommodate due to its Lilliputian size
compared to the mass of those kinds of celestial objects. Many of the stars seen in
the sky are quite a bit larger than the Sun; whose diameter is 109x and its volume
1,300,000x the Earth's.

● Rev 6:14a . .The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up

Whether that pertains to the entire cosmos or limited to the Earth's atmosphere is
uncertain, although it does seem a preview of Rev 20:11.

● Rev 6:14b . . and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

No doubt previous centuries of theologians were curious about that prediction, but
thanks to the relatively new science of plate tectonics, we now know that the
movement of mountains and islands has been occurring all along; just not as
noticeable as the shuffle depicted by Rev 16:14b.

Anyway, those events will quite naturally cause a world-wide panic.

● Rev 6:15-17 . . .Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich,
the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks
of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks: Fall on us and hide
us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For
the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?
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● Rev 6:5 . . And when He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature
saying: Come! And I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a
pair of scales in his hand.

Scales (a.k.a. balances) were mechanical devices used in the application of
commercial weights and measures. Modern electronic scales are quite a bit more
sophisticated.

The black horse in this case indicates hunger. (compare the pale horse's
assignment in Rev 6:8)

● Rev 6:6a . . And I heard as it were a voice in the center of the four living
creatures saying: A measure of wheat for a denarius, and three measures of of
barley for a denarius;

The Greek word translated "measure" is roughly equal to 1.09 liters or 2.3 US pints.
The denarius is widely assumed to have been equivalent to a day's pay for soldiers
and/or laborers.

It's a pretty good guess that what we're looking at is hand-to-mouth existence due
to inflationary pricing caused by the simple fact that there just won't be enough to
go around; for example:

"When I cut off your supply of bread, ten women will be able to bake your bread in
one oven, and they will dole out the bread by weight. You will eat, but you will not
be satisfied." (Lev 26:26)

● Rev 6:6b . . do not damage the oil and the wine!

Oil made from olives was common in just about everybody's kitchen and served as
a shortening. (cf. 1Kngs 17:8-12) Wine was a common first aid treatment, likely
due to its alcohol content (e.g. Luke 10:34) and also useful as a sedative (Prov
31:6-7)

NOTE: The oil used in Luke 10:34 was likely an essential oil rather olive, e.g. Myrrh,
Clove, and/or Frankincense.
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● Rev 6:7-8 . .When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the
fourth living creature say: Come!

. . . I looked, and there before me was a pale horse. Its rider was named Death,
and hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of
the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

* The lethal sources listed are common throughout the world today; but never have
they harvested so many souls as they will in the future. For example:

The current global population is roughly 7,964,189,000 i.e. 7.96 billion. By the time
Mr. Death finishes his work, something like 1.99 billion of those people would be
rubbed out by war, hunger, disease, and the animal kingdom; which consists of a
fair number of poisonous species along with toxic critters like vampire bats and
mosquitoes.

* In perspective: 1.99 billion people adds up to nearly 6x the USA's current
population.

We don't usually notice someone's passing unless they're famous or one of our
friends, associates, and relatives. Well; when Mr. Death goes to work, the dead will
be all around us and impossible to overlook. I rather suspect funeral homes will be
overwhelmed; if open for business at all.

And ER? Well, it's Mr. Death's intention that people die rather than survive, so I
should think that any and all medical attention the hospitals are able to provide will
be quite ineffective, viz: they'll likely serve as morgues instead of treatment
centers.
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● Rev 13:8 . . All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-- all whose names
have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from
the world.

Jesus wasn't a stand-by paramedic sent to an unexpected train wreck, rather; he
was designated, and scheduled, to die on a cross prior to God creating even a
single atom for the current cosmos. (1Pet 1:18-21)

Everything is a foregone conclusion with God; nothing surprises Him. God foresaw
the forbidden fruit incident, He foresaw Cain and Abel, He foresaw the Flood, He
foresaw the Tower of Babel, He foresaw Sodom and Gomorrah, He foresaw the
Holocaust, He foresaw all the folks who won't bow to the Beast, and He has seen
the Lake of Fire and the end of the world as we know it.

There are no new believers to God. He's already foreseen every one of them back
at the very beginning just as He's seen everything else ahead of time before it
comes to pass. Ergo: if somebody's name isn't already in the lamb's book of life,
then their name is never going to be in there.

● Eph 1:3-5 . . Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has
blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. For He
chose us in him before the creation of the world . . . in love He predestined us to be
adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will.
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● Rev 13:8 . . All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-- all whose names
have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from
the world.

It seems hard to believe that the whole world will join in worshipping some demon, but do you think the reference could be to the triumph of some kind of de facto religious faith which will demand the submission of those inhabitants of Earth who worship a supreme being (including Jews, Christians, and Muslims)?

For example, there are people and politicians that have made Climate Culture theory their guiding light and are determined to impose it on society, believing that it's immoral for anyone to do wrong by the physical environment. The movement also has its scriptures, holy days, preachers, saints, and the rest of what we have historically associated with religion.

 

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● Rev 13:4 . . And they worshipped the Dragon which gave power unto the Beast:
and they worshipped the Beast, saying: Who is like unto the Beast? Who is able to
make war with him?

* The Dragon is identified at Rev 12:9 as the Serpent, the Devil, and Satan; so
there can be no doubt who this creature really is. (cf. Rev 20:2)

It's quite possible that the people of that day will honestly believe the Beast is
empowered by a divine being; and unaware they are actually giving glory to a
demonic being instead. For example:

● 2Thess 2:9-12 . . .This evil man will come to do the work of Satan with
counterfeit power and signs and miracles. He will use every kind of wicked
deception to fool those who are on their way to destruction because they refuse to
believe the truth that would save them. So God will send great deception upon
them, and they will believe all these lies.

Worship of the Beast will be universal, mandatory, and strictly enforced regardless
of age, race, gender, and/or ethnic identity-- a one-world mega religion that blows
all others out of the water, e.g. Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism,
Baha'i, Buddhism, etc.
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● Rev 13:5a . . And there was given unto the Beast a mouth speaking great things

That's pretty much describes the rhetoric of most every politician, viz: promises of
a better world under the auspices of their own administrative practices.

● Rev 13:5b . . and blasphemies

In this scenario, the Beast is God's political opponent. Well political opponents in
today's world make it their mission in life to destroy the other guy's reputation and
call into question his motives. I suspect the Beast's tactics will be no different
because it's to his advantage to emphasize the old God's perceived faults and
failures and show how himself as the new God can do a much better job managing
the world's affairs.

"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is
worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be
God." (2Thess 2:3-4)

NOTE: I would imagine that a first order of business for the Beast will be to come
up with a plausible explanation for the world-wide extraction described by 1Thess
4:13-18 wherein nigh unto 2,000 years of deceased Christians will appear out of
thin air all over the globe and join those alive to go up and rendezvous with Christ
in the clouds.
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It seems hard to believe that the whole world will join in worshipping some demon, but do you think the reference could be to the triumph of some kind of de facto religious faith which will demand the submission of those inhabitants of Earth who worship a supreme being (including Jews, Christians, and Muslims)?

I wouldn't think so because 'false religious faiths aren't thrown into the Lake of Fire...

Revelation 19:20 NASB95
And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone.

 

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But how are all religions gonna fall for it? Maybe some New Age stuff or maybe he isn't religious. The Jews say the Messiah will just be a world leader who brings peace. He will fix all problems, gives em a peace treaty and then he goes sit in the temple and says he's God and they see they've been deceived.

 

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● Rev 13:5c . . and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Prophetic months aren't the same as calendar months. Prophetic months are thirty
days each; so that forty-two such months add up to 1,260 days, i.e. 3½ prophetic
years, e.g. Rev 11:2 & Rev 12:6

Prophetic months are sort of like a baker's dozen. Though a baker's dozen isn't a
dozen of twelve; it's nonetheless a dozen in its own right: the same with solar time
vs sidereal time, and true north vs magnetic north.

* Scripture introduces prophetic months in Genesis relative to the Flood where a
period of five months adds up to exactly 150 days.
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But how are all religions gonna fall for it? Maybe some New Age stuff or maybe he isn't religious.

That's why I suggested, a few posts back, that it will be a leader of a new movement that, like the leader himself, is seen as NOT being a new or competing religion. That will be the case even though it actually amounts to the same thing (a religion) and rejects all the existing world religions.

You mentioned "New Age stuff," although that has already made its appearance and is now not so "New" anymore, but it looks to me that you are thinking along the same lines as I was.

 

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● Rev 13:7-8 . . And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them; and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and
nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not
written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Because we're talking about all kindreds, and tongues, and nations; then I think we
may safely assume that the "saints" in this case are possibly anyone and everybody
that can be counted as loyal to God; both Jew and Gentile. This may or may not
refer to armed conflict but for sure it's related to oppression; and it's going to be
very effective if we reckon these saints to be the innumerable crowd depicted at
Rev 7:9-17.

The Beast's management practices are extreme, but not all that unusual. Take for
example modern communist China. It's very dangerous to be openly religious in
that country, and/or hold values that differ with the regime's, where they harvest
the organs of Falun Gong adherents without their consent. The situation in North
Korea is little better where God is second place to Kim Jong-Un.

The Lamb slain "from the foundation of the world" reveals that Jesus wasn't a
stand-by paramedic sent to an unexpected train wreck, rather; he was designated,
and scheduled, to die on a cross for the sins of the world prior to God creating even
a single atom for the current cosmos. (cf. 1Pet 1:18-21)
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