Easter's Importance

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Of the two-- forgiveness vs. acquittal --I prefer acquittal because forgiveness
leaves traces on the books, whereas acquittal leaves no traces.

For example: files are to be opened at the scene depicted by Rev 20:11-15. I've no
doubt that quite a few of the "works" in those files are forgiven works; yet there
they are to be reckoned with because the offender, though forgiven, wasn't
acquitted-- roughly defined as an adjudication of innocence due to lack of sufficient
evidence to convict.

• Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised to life
for our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" roughly pertains to a verdict of innocence
which, in my estimation, is a whole lot better than a pardon.

* Note that Jesus' crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to gain folks an acquittal, viz:
had his crucified dead body not been restored to life, we'd all remain in very grave
danger of facing justice at the great white throne event.

• 1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is useless, and you
are still under condemnation for your sins.
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I don't think that we should separate forgiveness from the resurrection because they're too intertwined.

 

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Of the two-- forgiveness vs. acquittal --I prefer acquittal because forgiveness
leaves traces on the books, whereas acquittal leaves no traces.

Apparently, the word as used in Scripture is meant to convey the idea of an acquittal.

But my question has to be this: "Is your stated preference for the one meaning over the other one just a matter of what makes you feel better about the whole thing, or is it that you think there is an important difference between forgiveness and acquittal?"

 

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Christ's followers are counted as joint participants in his crucifixion. (Rom 6:3, Rom
6:6, Gal 2:20)

They are also counted as joint participants in his resurrection. (Rom 6:4-5)

So then, seeing as Christ will never again be put to death for sin, and from now on
be permanently immortal (Rom 6:9-10) then the same is true for his joint
participants, i.e. never again will they be in danger of the wages of sin, and should
make an effort to accept that they have immortality in the bag. (Rom 6:11)
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FAQ: So; how would an interested party go about obtaining this acquittal about
which you speak?

REPLY: It's available upon request.

Find a quiet place, anywhere will do. Cover you face with your hands for a sense of
privacy and tell God you have never yet measured up to His standards and you're
pretty sure you never will. Tell Him you would like to take advantage of His son's
death and resurrection; and thank Him for His time.

Buen Camino
(Pleasant Journey)

 

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• Mark 15:43-45 . .Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who
was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for
Jesus' body. Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already dead. Summoning the
centurion, he asked him if Jesus had already died. When he learned from the
centurion that it was so, he gave the body to Joseph.

Even if Jesus had somehow managed to survive crucifixion, he would certainly have
died from suffocation later during the preparation of his body for burial.

They first cocooned him with a paste made from a mixture of myrrh and aloes; and
not just a thin film of it, but seventy-five pounds of the stuff. Then put a towel over
his face and secured it by wrapping his head with strips of cloth. Then they wound
his entire body with the same materials; and then wrapped him all up like a burrito
in a large linen sheet. In other words: Jesus wasn't just buried, he was packaged.
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• Mark 15:43-45 . .Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent member of the Council, who
was himself waiting for the kingdom of God, went boldly to Pilate and asked for
Jesus' body. Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already dead. Summoning the
centurion, he asked him if Jesus had already died. When he learned from the
centurion that it was so, he gave the body to Joseph.

Even if Jesus had somehow managed to survive crucifixion, he would certainly have
died from suffocation later during the preparation of his body for burial.

They first cocooned him with a paste made from a mixture of myrrh and aloes; and
not just a thin film of it, but seventy-five pounds of the stuff. Then put a towel over
his face and secured it by wrapping his head with strips of cloth. Then they wound
his entire body with the same materials; and then wrapped him all up like a burrito
in a large linen sheet. In other words: Jesus wasn't just buried, he was packaged.
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Christ died and yet He Lives!

 

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• Gen 2:7 . . The Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

The miraculous process that gave the first man life and existence is not all that
different from the process that restored Jesus' crucified dead body to life.

I should think that if someone can believe in the creation of Man, then believing in
Jesus' resurrection would be even easier to accept 'cause God had to first construct
a body for Adam whereas Jesus' body was completed; all set to go, ready and
waiting in the tomb.

Jesus' soul already existed too, plus God had custody of his spirit per Luke 23:46,
so it was a simple matter for God to recombine those three elements in order to bring
Jesus back from death per Ps 16:8-10 & Acts 2:25-31.
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• Gen 2:7 . . The Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed
into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

The miraculous process that gave the first man life and existence is not all that
different from the process that restored Jesus' crucified dead body to life.

I should think that if someone can believe in the creation of Man, then believing in
Jesus' resurrection would be even easier to accept 'cause God had to first construct
a body for Adam whereas Jesus' body was completed; all set to go, ready and
waiting in the tomb.

Jesus' soul already existed too, plus God had custody of his spirit per Luke 23:46,
so it was a simple matter for God to recombine those three elements in order to bring
Jesus back from death per Ps 16:8-10 & Acts 2:25-31.
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I think either your wording is off or you concept because it doesn't sound very Trinitarian to me.

 

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• Luke 1:32 . . .The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David

Before Jesus could be considered for David's throne, he first had to be among
David's biological descendants; no exceptions.

• Ps 89:35-36 . . Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.
His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.

• Ps 132:11 . .The Lord has sworn in truth unto David; and He will not turn from
it: "Of the fruit of your body will I set upon your throne"

The New Testament verifies that Jesus satisfies the biological requirement.

• Acts 2:29-30 . . Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch
David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day.
Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him,
that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on
his throne.

• Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" is a mite ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual
progeny as well as to biological progeny; but in David's case; seed refers to
biological progeny because his is 1) the fruit of his body and 2) of his loins
according to the flesh.

FAQ: Jesus was virgin conceived. How then could David possibly fit into Jesus'
biological genealogy?

REPLY: That would be a piece of cake if Mary's biological father descended from
David; which Luke 3:23 would easily prove if its language and grammar were not
so controversial.

OBJECTION: David's throne passes down via his male descendants.

REPLY: The covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God permits inheritances
to go through women when there is no man. (Num 27:1-8)

FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male gender?

REPLY: In the beginning, Eve's entire body-- inside and out, front to back, top to
bottom, and side to side --was constructed with material taken from Adam's body.
(Gen 2:21-22) So if God could construct an entire woman from material taken from
a man's body, then it shouldn't be too difficult for Him to construct a teensy little
chromosome from a woman's body.

Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women (Gen 3:20 & Acts 17:26) then any
material taken from Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby Jesus would
be owed to Eve's body; and by construction: Adam's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken from
Mary's body wouldn't be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but would be 100%
natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and from thence to the very
dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I'm very confident that what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of
the Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is
true, then little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew-- biologically descended not only from
David and Abraham as all other Jews, but also from the Man that God created in
the book of Genesis.

• Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
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• Luke 1:32 . . .The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David

Before Jesus could be considered for David's throne, he first had to be among
David's biological descendants; no exceptions.

Okay

• Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" is a mite ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual
progeny as well as to biological progeny; but in David's case; seed refers to
biological progeny because his is 1) the fruit of his body and 2) of his loins
according to the flesh.

Okay

FAQ: Jesus was virgin conceived. How then could David possibly fit into Jesus'
biological genealogy?

He was the natural child of Mary regardless of the means of insemination.

FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male gender?

God willed it. That's evident from the following language:

the Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35

Overshadow, yes. Or, to use the full wording of the Bible verse...

35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

Note the last part there in which the fatherhood of God is affirmed and the reason given for it, as opposed to a tricky, highly speculative, and purely physical explanation of how Mary could have conceived her child.

 

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Along with the justification discussed in post No.1 is the opportunity for our own
resurrections.

● 1Pet 1:3-6 . . Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his
great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of
Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or
fade-- kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God's power until
the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

The salvation ready to be revealed in the last time is most likely the resurrection
that Paul spoke of in Rom 8:23-25, 1Cor 15:12-57, and 1Thess 4:13-18. In other
words; had not Jesus' crucified dead body been restored to life, his followers
would've had no hope of bouncing back from death, i.e. his made theirs possible.
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