What is the name of the Father?

[Joelightening]

In the gospel of John, the 17th chapter, Jesus is praying. In his prayer he states that he has revealed the Father's name to his followers. What name did he reveal to them?

 

[Albion]

John refers to the "name" of the Father in several other verses, too.

In all those instances, and likewise in the case of the Baptismal formula that was discussed at length here on CH, the meaning is not that of a "handle" but of his or its identity. That's similar to one of us saying "Stop, in the name of the Law!" or "In the name of all that's right and decent, I implore you to _____."

 

[Messy]

In the gospel of John, the 17th chapter, Jesus is praying. In his prayer he states that he has revealed the Father's name to his followers. What name did he reveal to them?

His Names in the O.T. are YHWH Jireh etc., so I'd guess YHWH saves: Yeshua.

 

[Joelightening]

Being translated to English the name is Jesus.

 

[Albion]

Being translated to English the name is Jesus.

His Names in the O.T. are YHWH Jireh etc., so I'd guess YHWH saves: Yeshua.

Jesus (Yeshua) is obviously not the name of the Father.

 

[Joelightening]

Holy Father keep them in your name which you have given me...

What is the name of the Son of God? Jesus is his name. The Father gave him that name. It is the name above every name, so it has to be the name of the Father.

 

[Messy]

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Jesus (Yeshua) is obviously not the name of the Father.

It's YHWH. They're both YHWH, but YHWH saves is Yeshua and the Father also saves. God is one, so they always had the same Name. Not We are, but I am.

Genesis 19:24

Then the Lord (YHWH) rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord (YHWH) out of the heavens.

John 17:11

Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. BLB

 

[Lamb]

Holy Father keep them in your name which you have given me...

What is the name of the Son of God? Jesus is his name. The Father gave him that name. It is the name above every name, so it has to be the name of the Father.

No, it is not.

And the catholic faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity, neither confusing the persons nor dividing the substance.

For the Father is one person, the Son is another, and the Holy Spirit is another.

But the Godhead of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is one: the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit: the Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, the Holy Spirit uncreated; the Father infinite, the Son infinite, the Holy Spirit infinite; the Father eternal, the Son eternal, the Holy Spirit eternal.

And yet there are not three Eternals, but one Eternal, just as there are not three Uncreated or three Infinites, but one Uncreated and one Infinite.

In the same way, the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, the Holy Spirit almighty; and yet there are not three Almighties, but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God;

And yet there are not three Gods, but one God.

So the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, the Holy Spirit is Lord;

And yet there are not three Lords, but one Lord.

Just as we are compelled by the Christian truth to acknowledge each distinct person as God and Lord, so also are we prohibited by the catholic religion to say that there are three Gods or Lords.

The Father is not made nor created nor begotten by anyone.

The Son is neither made nor created, but begotten of the Father alone.

The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son, neither made nor created nor begotten, but proceeding.

Thus, there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.

And in this Trinity none is before after another; none is greater or less than another;

But the whole three persons are coeternal with each other and coequal, so that in all things, as has been stated above, the Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity is to be worshiped.

Therefore, whoever desires to be saved must think thus about the Trinity.

But it is also necessary for everlasting salvation that one faithfully believe the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore, it is the right faith that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is at the same time both God and man.

He is God, begotten from the substance of the Father before all ages; and He is man, born from the substance of His mother in this age: perfect God and perfect man, composed of a rational soul and human flesh; equal to the Father with respect to His divinity, less than the Father with respect to His humanity.

Although He is God and man, He is not two, but one Christ: one, however, not by the conversion of the divinity into flesh, but by the assumption of the humanity into God; one altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person.

For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ,

Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead, ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the living and the dead.

At His coming all people will rise again with their bodies and give an account concerning their own deeds.

And those who have done good will enter into eternal life, and those who have done evil into eternal fire.

This is the catholic faith; whoever does not believe it faithfully and firmly cannot be saved.

 

[Joelightening]

I fully recognize the Holy Trinity. I also recognize that the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is Lord Jesus.

 

[Albion]

Holy Father keep them in your name which you have given me...

What is the name of the Son of God? Jesus is his name.

Yes.

The Father gave him that name. It is the name above every name, so it has to be the name of the Father.

Not at all. You talk as though the Father and the Son (and the Holy Ghost?) are identical (but maybe just playing different roles at different times?)

That is a denial of the doctrine of the Trinity, which you are entitled to do, but not do so and continue to post here on this "Christian Only" forum.

 

[Albion]

I fully recognize the Holy Trinity.

Not if what you posted is an accurate representation of what you believe. The Trinity is well-described in the Nicene Creed and rules out the idea that the three persons of the Trinity differ only in the names that are used for them. But if you think that there are three persona and they all use the same name, well, that's just weird.

 

[Joelightening]

Yes.

Not at all. You talk as though the Father and the Son (and the Holy Ghost?) are identical (but maybe just playing different roles at different times?)

That is a denial of the doctrine of the Trinity, which you are entitled to do, but not do so and continue to post here on this "Christian Only" forum.

I am not a oneness Pentecostal. I firmly believe in the Holy Trinity.

I also believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have the same name.

Have you ever heard of John Doe the 1st, John Doe the 2nd, and John Doe the 3rd? Three different persons, but the same name.

Jesus stated in the gospel of John that the Holy Spirit would not come in his own name, but would come in his name (Jesus).

 

[Albion]

I am not a oneness Pentecostal. I firmly believe in the Holy Trinity.

I also believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have the same name.

Actually, there are a number of names that have been used (according to Scripture). For example, "I AM," which you didn't even mention.

Jesus stated in the gospel of John that the Holy Spirit would not come in his own name, but would come in his name (Jesus).

He didn't say the HS would be using Jesus' name. What you are referring to means only that he would come by the authority of or in accordance with the wishes of somebody else (the Son). I explained this in an earlier post.

"But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." (John 14:26)

 

[Joelightening]

There area number of denominations,included Baptist, Methodist, and Protestant who believe the nicene Creed or who at least accept the theological importance of it.

 

[Lamb]

What churches believe that Jesus is the name of God in His entirety?

 

[Joelightening]

What churches believe that Jesus is the name of God in His entirety?

God has several names and titles. Jesus is his only name given among men whereby we must be saved.

Oneness Pentecostals believe the name of God is Jesus, but they also deny the true existence of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So they are a deceptive branch of the falling away.

 

[Albion]

God has several names and titles. Jesus is his only name given among men whereby we must be saved.

That's because Jesus paid the price for mankind's sins by sacrificing his own life on the Cross. The other two persona of the Holy Trinity are God, but it was the second person of the Trinity who became the Savior.

 

[Messy]

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[Albion]

I once asked God to explain to me the Trinity and He said: Look at Jesus, when He was on earth.

I'll stick with the word of God in preference to imagining that I'm hearing things in the night.

That's why we have divine revelation, after all, so that we all will have the word of God, just as the Bible explains, instead of the brainstorm of one person that's different from whatever the next person came up with.

That's also why we have the church and local congregations of the church that Christ founded, as opposed to everybody "theorizing" out of control.

 

[Prepared]

In the gospel of John, the 17th chapter, Jesus is praying. In his prayer he states that he has revealed the Father's name to his followers. What name did he reveal to them?

Not for us to know. Had it been so the disciples would have revealed God the Father's name.

Many would like to say Yahweh (English translation) would be his name but as Jesus said no man has seen the Father. That would mean Yahweh is not the Father, not only did man talk to but also saw Yahweh. Yahweh and Jesus are one and the same. Jesus became known as Yeshua once he was born in the flesh.

I wonder why there is so many name changing?

One also does not consider Yahweh was also called El / Elohim. Abraham made his offering to him through Melchizedek of the Canaanites in the City of Salem, which later became Jerusalem. Roughly 420 years after Elohim blessed Abraham he became known as Yahweh through Moses.

And when you read Revelation 19:12 a new name is given that no man knows.
Just like no man has seen our Father no man alive knows his name - which was only revealed to a chosen few.