American Evangelical Accretions

[Lanman87]

What are some things you consider Accretions in the American Evangelical Church? I'm not talking about cultural distinctives, but things that are taught as "Dogma" by some denominations/preachers

From my Baptist background the first thing that comes to mind is the total abstaining of alcohol. This teaching has receded a lot over the past 50 years. But it still exist in certain areas.

Another is KJV only ism.

 

[Albion]

1. The sacraments are merely gestures (and worthy of only being called "ordinances")
2. Whether or not to be baptized is completely optional with the church member.
3. The "Oneness" movement that denies the Trinity.
4. Acceptance of individuals setting themselves up as pastors without the authorization of any wider church organization or supervision from the same.
5. "Clergy couples."
6. Grape juice in Holy Communion.
7. "Dedication" ceremonies for infants who are otherwise ineligible for Baptism.

 

[Lanman87]

Grape juice is just non-alcoholic wine.

Although I understand not offering wine to minors (where it is illegal) or those recovering from alcoholism.

Just curious, were Catholics, Anglicans and others who consider wine a critical part of the Eucharist allowed to purchase wine during prohibition?

Edit, I just googled it and saw that religious use of wine was exempted.

 

[Albion]

Grape juice is just non-alcoholic wine.

Is "non-alcoholic wine" actually wine, though?

Anyway, insisting upon the use of grape juice still does qualify as a recent "accretion" IMHO.

Just curious, were Catholics, Anglicans and others who consider wine a critical part of the Eucharist allowed to purchase wine during prohibition?

You know, I've never heard anything about it, one way or the other; but if it had been prohibited, I'm sure there would be many stories about how the churches dealt with it.

Edit, I just googled it and saw that religious use of wine was exempted.

Aha!

 

[Messy]

What are some things you consider Accretions in the American Evangelical Church? I'm not talking about cultural distinctives, but things that are taught as "Dogma" by some denominations/preachers

From my Baptist background the first thing that comes to mind is the total abstaining of alcohol. This teaching has receded a lot over the past 50 years. But it still exist in certain areas.

Another is KJV only ism.

I don't know about the American evangelical church, but a Dutch evangelical church can be anything. If there are a lot of It can be a bit calvinistic, or more Word of Faith or charismatic or pentecostal, baptist whatever.

 

[Lanman87]

Anyway, insisting upon the use of grape juice still does qualify as a recent "accretion" IMHO.

I agree

 

[Lanman87]

Is "non-alcoholic wine" actually wine, though?

Is O'Doul's actually Beer? Most of my beer snob friends would say no.

 

[Albion]

Is O'Doul's actually Beer? Most of my beer snob friends would say no.

That's a toughie, but I might say "no" despite the similarities.

But also, if we were talking about someone having had a "beer" a thousand or more years ago, I'd have to think that it was a beer basically like the ones we consider to be beer today, not something that could pass for beer.

 

[Lanman87]

But also, if we were talking about someone having had a "beer" a thousand or more years ago, I'd have to think that it was a beer basically like the ones we consider to be beer today, not something that could pass for beer.

One of the things that made me change my position on social drinking is I heard a baptist preacher say that the water Jesus turned into wine was non-alcoholic. I did a word study and found out this preacher didn't have clue what he was talking about. In the process I discovered that a glass of wine a day is good for heart health and will actually lower cholesterol. I tried about 10 different kinds of wine and decided I had rather die early. I didn't like it all.

I then tried different beers and the only think I could drink without make a "beer face" was Michelob Ultra. I drank 4-5 glasses a week for 3 months and my cholesterol dropped 15%. My doctor asked me what I did and I told him I started drinking beer. He burst out laughing. I stopped drinking the beer and my cholesterol went back up. I started drinking Metamucil instead of beer and it went back down. But honestly, I don't know which one taste worst.

 

[Albion]

In the process I discovered that a glass of wine a day is good for heart health and will actually lower cholesterol. I tried about 10 different kinds of wine and decided I had rather die early. I didn't like it all.

Maybe a sparkling wine, then?

I then tried different beers and the only think I could drink without make a "beer face" was Michelob Ultra. I drank 4-5 glasses a week for 3 months and my cholesterol dropped 15%. My doctor asked me what I did and I told him I started drinking beer. He burst out laughing. I stopped drinking the beer and my cholesterol went back up. I started drinking Metamucil instead of beer and it went back down. But honestly, I don't know which one taste worst.

Maybe because you didn't really like the Michelob, it killed your appetite for food? Otherwise, I haven't a clue what was going on with all of that...but I liked reading about it!