I was not sent to baptise

[shilohsfoal]

1 corinth1:17
For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.


Seeing the apostle to the gentiles was not sent to baptise the gentiles but to preach the gospel. And seeing the gentiles baptised by God in the holy spirit without the use of water.

Is water even nessasary to salvation?

For scripture shows all one needs to do is ask for the holy ghost to recieve it..

Luke 11:9
So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?
Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion?
If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

So many people in the world being misled to believe that they must perform some kind of ritual of taking a bath in public to recieve the holy spirit and then they never recieve it because they never ask. They never seek God and they never find him because they thought they could obtain the gift of the Holy Spirit by works.
It's truly sad so many people in this world have been misled.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
not by works, so that no one can boast.

Now there are some who preach you can be saved by works. They believe if you get baptised from a common man that you will be saved by that work of man.

 

[Lamb]

Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
not by works, so that no one can boast.

Now there are some who preach you can be saved by works. They believe if you get baptised from a common man that you will be saved by that work of man.

Jesus commanded baptism. Not man.

God is the one who baptizes, us through the water and word. I can't baptize myself.

 

[DPMartin]

1 corinth1:17
For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.


Seeing the apostle to the gentiles was not sent to baptise the gentiles but to preach the gospel. And seeing the gentiles baptised by God in the holy spirit without the use of water.

Is water even nessasary to salvation?

For scripture shows all one needs to do is ask for the holy ghost to recieve it..

Luke 11:9
So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?
Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion?
If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

So many people in the world being misled to believe that they must perform some kind of ritual of taking a bath in public to recieve the holy spirit and then they never recieve it because they never ask. They never seek God and they never find him because they thought they could obtain the gift of the Holy Spirit by works.
It's truly sad so many people in this world have been misled.

First you are incorrect; the apostles according to John, baptized more disciples then John the Baptist.

Joh_4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

Joh_4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)



Second by water might not be necessary for salvation seeing by water is for open repentance:

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

which in the day was done more than once in a person’s life in Israel. There were many pools for such practices then, which John the Baptist didn’t care for and used the Jordan and why the Jordan is mentioned.

So, if you want to skip water fine, but large organizations, like say, the RCC, has to cover all bases to be sure there is no doubt in the forgiven’s soul, and nothing was missed on the church’s part.

 

[shilohsfoal]

First you are incorrect; the apostles according to John, baptized more disciples then John the Baptist.

Joh_4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

Joh_4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)



Second by water might not be necessary for salvation seeing by water is for open repentance:

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

which in the day was done more than once in a person’s life in Israel. There were many pools for such practices then, which John the Baptist didn’t care for and used the Jordan and why the Jordan is mentioned.

So, if you want to skip water fine, but large organizations, like say, the RCC, has to cover all bases to be sure there is no doubt in the forgiven’s soul, and nothing was missed on the church’s part.

Now there's no need for you to accuse Paul of lying. Paul himself said he was not sent to baptise but to preach the gospel.

And as for water. I shower about 6 times weekly. I use soap also to wash away dirt and grime. I beptise myself on a regular basis. I have no need for another person to wash me for I'm able to do it myself.There might be a day when I need someone else to wash me but I'm sure when that day comes if it does, a preacher from a church wouldn't be there to do it.

 

[DPMartin]

Now there's no need for you to accuse Paul of lying. Paul himself said he was not sent to baptise but to preach the gospel.

And as for water. I shower about 6 times weekly. I use soap also to wash away dirt and grime. I beptise myself on a regular basis. I have no need for another person to wash me for I'm able to do it myself.There might be a day when I need someone else to wash me but I'm sure when that day comes if it does, a preacher from a church wouldn't be there to do it.

so you're saying Paul doesn't speak for himself, he speaks for all apostles, is that correct? and if you want to be baptized daily that's good that you should want walk a penitent life. I do believe the RCC promotes the penitent life style.

 

[atpollard]

Context, context, context …

1 Corinthians 1:10-17 [NKJV]​

Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but thatyou be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?​

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I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.​

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[Albion]

Second by water might not be necessary for salvation seeing by water is for open repentance:

Baptism with water in the approved manner will not guarantee salvation anyway, and it is accepted that when water and a baptizer are not available, that does not prevent a new believer from being saved.

Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Mar_1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Bear in mind that none of the above rejects baptism with water, and most of the verses cited affirm it, even though the speakers are making an additional point about the work of the Holy Ghost.

which in the day was done more than once in a person’s life in Israel.

"...in the day" before Christian baptism was introduced or the Church established.

There were many pools for such practices then, which John the Baptist didn’t care for and used the Jordan and why the Jordan is mentioned.

So, if you want to skip water fine,

not fine because it is expressly referred to in various NT verses as being a part of the ceremony.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Context, context, context …

1 Corinthians 1:10-17 [NKJV]​

Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but thatyou be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of Chloe’s household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?​

​

I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.​

​

Exactly. By baptising they were causing contensions to the point Paul thanked God he had not baptise any more than he had.
The very thing that he was not sent to do was what was causing the problems.

 

[shilohsfoal]

so you're saying Paul doesn't speak for himself, he speaks for all apostles, is that correct? and if you want to be baptized daily that's good that you should want walk a penitent life. I do believe the RCC promotes the penitent life style.

If the worldly water was needed for salvation then Paul would have been instructed to bath people and make them clean.
But He wasnt instructed to use water at all. None.
He admits he was not sent to baptise and that water baptism caused divisions within the church.

 

[DPMartin]

Baptism with water in the approved manner will not guarantee salvation anyway, and it is accepted that when water and a baptizer are not available, that does not prevent a new believer from being saved.

Bear in mind that none of the above rejects baptism with water, and most of the verses cited affirm it, even though the speakers are making an additional point about the work of the Holy Ghost.

"...in the day" before Christian baptism was introduced or the Church established.


not fine because it is expressly referred to in various NT verses as being a part of the ceremony.

Maybe you should read the bible before you spot off all that knowledge you don’t have:

1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.



And a little general history on the subject:

From Wikipedia:

Although the term "baptism" is not used to describe the Jewish rituals, the purification rites in Halakha, Jewish law and tradition, called tvilah, have some similarity to baptism, and the two have been linked. The tvilah is the act of immersion in naturally-sourced water, called a mikva.[2][unreliable source?][3] In the past Hebrew Bible and other Jewish texts, immersion in water for ritual purification was established for restoration to a condition of "ritual purity" in specific circumstances. For example, Jews who (according to the Law of Moses) became ritually defiled by contact with a corpse had to use the mikvah before being allowed to participate in the Holy Temple. Immersion is required for converts to Judaism.[4] Immersion in the mikvah represents a change in status in regards to purification, restoration, and qualification for full religious participation in the life of the community, ensuring that the cleansed person will not impose uncleanness on property or its owners.[5][non-primary source needed][6] It did not become customary,[7] however, to immerse converts to Judaism until after the Babylonian Captivity (586–539 BCE).[8] This change of status by the mikvah could be obtained repeatedly, while Christian baptism, like circumcision, is, in the general view of Christians, unique and not repeatable.[9] Even the so-called rebaptism by some Christian denominations is not seen by them as a repetition of an earlier valid baptism and is viewed by them as not itself repeatable.[citation needed]

During the Second Temple period (c. 516 BCE–70 CE), the Greek noun baptmos was used to refer to ritual washing in Hellenistic Judaism

 

[Albion]

Maybe you should read the bible before you spot off all that knowledge you don’t have

Ouch. Yet another "one man denomination" kind of Christian who has read a few things and so is become both an historian and a Bible expert...thanks to Wikipedia!