Pieces are Falling in Place

[Lees]

So many pieces are coming together that lead to the conclusion that the end time events are in motion.

Israel is back in the land as a nation.

Europe is uniting while the U.S is declining in power. Both are necessary in the end times.

Covid prepared all the nations to act as one in obedience to a crisis. And if you didn't, you were seen as the enemy. Take the vaccine. Take the mark.

The world wide economy has gone to hell...literally. Thus it waits for a 'world wide solution'. Which of course the anti-christ wil be happy to deliver. 666

NASA just announced it's succes in hitting a metorite in space and being able to change it's course, thus suggesting their ability to fight off any metorite that threatens the earth. And I listened to the head of NASA say on the news, that we are prepared for anything the universe can throw against us. How interesting. I often wondered how people could think they could go to war against God. (Rev. 19:19). Now I see. Mankind is being prepared. Being prepared to war against Christ when He returns.

And Russia. Gog and Magog. (Ezekiel 37-39) Russia's actions have united the West, which is where the anti-christ will rule.

But, Russia's actions have also caused thousands of Russian Jewish men, who want to avoid the draft, to return to Israel as Russia is still allowed to fly planes in and out of Israel. I saw this on the news just today. I have often wondered why Russia would attack Israel as described in the Scripture. (Ezekiel 38:10-16) But now I can see how this can be a seed planted in Russia's mind. These Jews who have lived and benefited in Russia, now run when Russia needs them. For this Russia won't need much of an excuse to attack Israel.

We live in a fasinating time.

Lees

 

[Lamb]

Every generation thinks it's the one that will see Christ's coming.

 

[Albion]

Every generation thinks it's the one that will see Christ's coming.

It seems so. And each one of them has something or other to point to as "proof."

So many pieces are coming together that lead to the conclusion that the end time events are in motion.

Israel is back in the land as a nation.

...and it has been so for 3/4 of a century now!

Europe is uniting while the U.S is declining in power. Both are necessary in the end times.

Actually, Europe is worried (or relieved) that its nations are separating from the unity that they thought they had in place until recently.

Britain voted for Brexit and has taken other steps. As a result, some others have fought back against her. Italy is now loosening its ties, Hungary and a couple of additional countries have defied the liberal policies of their neighbors concerning migrants, further threatening European unity in the eyes of the European establishment.

 

[Lees]

Every generation thinks it's the one that will see Christ's coming.

No, every generation has some who believe that they will see Christ's coming. Just like every generation has those scoffers, just like yourself that mock the idea that you may see Christ's coming. (2 Peter 3:3-4)

It seems so. And each one of them has something or other to point to as "proof."


...and it has been so for 3/4 of a century now!

Actually, Europe is worried (or relieved) that its nations are separating from the unity that they thought they had in place until recently.

Britain voted for Brexit and has taken other steps. As a result, some others have fought back against her. Italy is now loosening its ties, Hungary and a couple of additional countries have defied the liberal policies of their neighbors concerning migrants, further threatening European unity in the eyes of the European establishment.

More scoffers. (2 Peter 3:3-4)

So what, that Israel was back in the land in 1948? As I said, it is proof that end times events are in motion.

Let me tell you what will happen to you and people like you one day. You will scoff one day and then Jesus returns. He is going to return. And there will always be the scoffers, like yourself, who say, "Oh everyone is always saying that".

Europe is being united by the Russian threat. Brexit does not remove that. Brexit is old news in this matter.

It is funny to me that your and other's scoffing, is the same thing I hear from unbelievers. "Every generation is always saying that".

And, I applaude those in past generations who could see God's hand in the preparation for these last days. And could see how things were working out in the world that pointed to the possible end time events ocuuring and the return of Christ.

Lees

 

[Albion]

No, every generation has some who believe that they will see Christ's coming.

That's true. And they've all been mistaken in their predictions.

Today's version will join them, and yet all of these people imagined that they had found evidence in the Bible that the era in which they were living was the one prophesized.

There are whole denominations, in fact, that are still trying to rationalize how the erroneous predictions made by their founders 100 to 200 years ago concerning the immanent return of Christ and the end of the current era wasn't a mistake after all.

Oh, some say, God was just beginning the wrap up of this age, and it'll take God a couple of centuries or so to get it all done. (!)

In time, some of them had to admit defeat or else set a new date in the future. So they set another one when the first one passed with nothing happening. And then another. And now there's you.

It's no wonder that the great majority of Christians of all ages who knew better than to buy into the guesswork get called "scoffers" by you. There's not much else for you to say unless it's an apology.

 

[Lees]

That's true. And they've all been mistaken in their predictions.

Today's version will join them, and yet all of these people imagined that they had found evidence in the Bible that the era in which they were living was the one prophesized.

There are whole denominations, in fact, that are still trying to rationalize how the erroneous predictions made by their founders 100 to 200 years ago concerning the immanent return of Christ and the end of the current era wasn't a mistake after all.

Oh, some say, God was just beginning the wrap up of this age, and it'll take God a couple of centuries or so to get it all done. (!)

In time, some of them had to admit defeat or else set a new date in the future. So they set another one when the first one passed with nothing happening. And then another. And now there's you.

It's no wonder that the great majority of Christians of all ages who knew better than to buy into the guesswork get called "scoffers" by you. There's not much else to say unless it's an apology.

What 'predictions'?

Scoffers by me? (2 Peter 3:3-4) "Where is the promise of his coming?"

An apology by you means nothing to me.

As I said, your scoffing is the same as I hear from unbelievers. What a crowd.

Lees

 

[Lees]

Saw on the news that Israel refuses to send arms to Ukraine. Why? Because she doesn't want to irritate Russia because Russia allows Israel to use air space which it controls over Syria. And Israel can send air strikes against any threat it perceives from Iran or Syria.

But Israel is being pressured by Ukraine and the West to send weapons. Zelensky is especially angry at Israel being Jewish himself. But Russia has made it clear that if Israel sends weapons to Ukraine all ties between Russia and Ukraine will be broken.

This is more evidence showing how Russia becomes such an enemy to Israel so as to attack her as told in (Ezekiel 38).

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

So many pieces are coming together that lead to the conclusion that the end time events are in motion.

Israel is back in the land as a nation.

Europe is uniting while the U.S is declining in power. Both are necessary in the end times.

Covid prepared all the nations to act as one in obedience to a crisis. And if you didn't, you were seen as the enemy. Take the vaccine. Take the mark.

The world wide economy has gone to hell...literally. Thus it waits for a 'world wide solution'. Which of course the anti-christ wil be happy to deliver. 666

NASA just announced it's succes in hitting a metorite in space and being able to change it's course, thus suggesting their ability to fight off any metorite that threatens the earth. And I listened to the head of NASA say on the news, that we are prepared for anything the universe can throw against us. How interesting. I often wondered how people could think they could go to war against God. (Rev. 19:19). Now I see. Mankind is being prepared. Being prepared to war against Christ when He returns.

And Russia. Gog and Magog. (Ezekiel 37-39) Russia's actions have united the West, which is where the anti-christ will rule.

But, Russia's actions have also caused thousands of Russian Jewish men, who want to avoid the draft, to return to Israel as Russia is still allowed to fly planes in and out of Israel. I saw this on the news just today. I have often wondered why Russia would attack Israel as described in the Scripture. (Ezekiel 38:10-16) But now I can see how this can be a seed planted in Russia's mind. These Jews who have lived and benefited in Russia, now run when Russia needs them. For this Russia won't need much of an excuse to attack Israel.

We live in a fasinating time.

Lees

What you say about Russia is not in the Bible. In Ezekiel 37-39, Gog and Magog planned to steal Israel's cattle. At a time when they lived in unwalled villages. The military implements show times well passed. And not the future. Wooden spears, shields, horses, and so forth. The only time these conditions existed was during the Persian captivity in Esther's time.

“Therefore the Jews of the villages, that dwelt in the unwalled towns, made the fourteenth day of the month Adar a day of gladness and feasting, and a good day, and of sending portions one to another.” Esther 9:19 (KJV 1900) They still celebrate this victory called Purim.

Purim, (Hebrew: “Lots”) English Feast of Lots, a joyous Jewish festival commemorating the survival of the Jews who, in the 5th century BCE, were marked for death by their Persian rulers Purim | Definition, Story, History, Traditions, & Facts. The story is related in the biblical Book of Esther. See Post Dispensationalism

 

[Lees]

What you say about Russia is not in the Bible. In Ezekiel 37-39, Gog and Magog planned to steal Israel's cattle. At a time when they lived in unwalled villages. The military implements show times well passed. And not the future. Wooden spears, shields, horses, and so forth. The only time these conditions existed was during the Persian captivity in Esther's time.

“Therefore the Jews of the villages, that dwelt in the unwalled towns, made the fourteenth day of the month Adar a day of gladness and feasting, and a good day, and of sending portions one to another.” Esther 9:19 (KJV 1900) They still celebrate this victory called Purim.

Purim, (Hebrew: “Lots”) English Feast of Lots, a joyous Jewish festival commemorating the survival of the Jews who, in the 5th century BCE, were marked for death by their Persian rulers Purim | Definition, Story, History, Traditions, & Facts. The story is related in the biblical Book of Esther. See Post Dispensationalism

No. The time of Esther is when the Jews were captives in Persia. In (Ezekiel 38) Israel has been regathered back into the land as a nation. See (Ezekiel 36-37).

As for the military implements, I have no satisfactory answer. Some think the prophet is speaking of the weapons of his day as how could he describe otherwise. That could be true, but I personally believe it should be taken literally.

Just as I did with Russia becoming an enemy to Israel. I couldn't see why Russia should attack Israel. Israel goes out of it's way to get along with Russia. But then you had the many Russian Jewish men getting out of Russia to Israel to avoid the draft. Now you have pressure being put on Israel to send weapons to Ukraine. And Russia warning Israel not to do it.

It's a very interesting time.

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

No. The time of Esther is when the Jews were captives in Persia. In (Ezekiel 38) Israel has been regathered back into the land as a nation. See (Ezekiel 36-37).

As for the military implements, I have no satisfactory answer. Some think the prophet is speaking of the weapons of his day as how could he describe otherwise. That could be true, but I personally believe it should be taken literally.

Just as I did with Russia becoming an enemy to Israel. I couldn't see why Russia should attack Israel. Israel goes out of it's way to get along with Russia. But then you had the many Russian Jewish men getting out of Russia to Israel to avoid the draft. Now you have pressure being put on Israel to send weapons to Ukraine. And Russia warning Israel not to do it.

It's a very interesting time.

Lees

Persia included Israel. This made Unwalled Villages possible. Let's not Hal Lindsey it to fit "wild" ideas.

 

[Lees]

Persia included Israel. This made Unwalled Villages possible. Let's not Hal Lindsey it to fit "wild" ideas.

Again, Israel was captive under Persia. She as a nation ceased to exist. (Ezekiel 38) deals with the restored nation of Israel. You see her restoration in (Ezekiel 36-37).

In other words, (Ezekiel 38) is about Israel the nation when she is restored to the land. And then Russia and her allies attack her. Of which Persia will be one. (38:5) And guess who that is....Iran. What a coincidince.

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

Again, Israel was captive under Persia. She as a nation ceased to exist. (Ezekiel 38) deals with the restored nation of Israel. You see her restoration in (Ezekiel 36-37).

In other words, (Ezekiel 38) is about Israel the nation when she is restored to the land. And then Russia and her allies attack her. Of which Persia will be one. (38:5) And guess who that is....Iran. What a coincidince.

Lees

Israel did not cease to exist. They remained intact and took up where they left off after the exile.

 

[Lees]

Israel did not cease to exist. They remained intact and took up where they left off after the exile.

Israel did not take up where they left off after the exile in 586 B.C.

The Jews continued to exist, but under the heel of Gentile dominion. Even their rebuilding of the Temple, which was of God, it was at the discretion of Gentile rulers. The Times of the Gentiles were now in place. And God did not come down to the 2nd Temple and Personally fill it with His Glory, (Ezra 6:15-18) as He did before with the Tabernacle and the Temple of Solomon. (Ex. 40:34-35) (2 Chron. 5:13-14)

Israel had lost it's national existence and its existence as the Theocracy. The Theocracy being the people who mediated God's Kingdom on earth.

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

Israel did not take up where they left off after the exile in 586 B.C.

The Jews continued to exist, but under the heel of Gentile dominion. Even their rebuilding of the Temple, which was of God, it was at the discretion of Gentile rulers. The Times of the Gentiles were now in place. And God did not come down to the 2nd Temple and Personally fill it with His Glory, (Ezra 6:15-18) as He did before with the Tabernacle and the Temple of Solomon. (Ex. 40:34-35) (2 Chron. 5:13-14)

Israel had lost it's national existence and its existence as the Theocracy. The Theocracy being the people who mediated God's Kingdom on earth.

Lees

So why did God destroy the temple, a million plus Jews, and the nation in AD70 if it was as you assume?

 

[Lees]

So why did God destroy the temple, a million plus Jews, and the nation in AD70 if it was as you assume?

Because Israel would not repent and receive her King and the Kingdom, which was being offered. (Matt. 3:1-2) (Matt. 4:17)

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

Because Israel would not repent and receive her King and the Kingdom, which was being offered. (Matt. 3:1-2) (Matt. 4:17)

Lees

Isreal DID receive Jesus and his kingdom. God removed those who did not in the worst tribulation ever. The destruction of Jerusalem in AD70. Did not the Israelite disciples receive him? Why couldn't the rest receive him? Without the New Birth, nobody can see that the Kingdom is here now and came without observation. I see it. Can you?

 

[Lees]

Isreal DID receive Jesus and his kingdom. God removed those who did not in the worst tribulation ever. The destruction of Jerusalem in AD70. Did not the Israelite disciples receive him? Why couldn't the rest receive him? Without the New Birth, nobody can see that the Kingdom is here now and came without observation. I see it. Can you?

No. Israel as a nation rejected her King and the Kingdom He offered. (John 1:11) (Luke 19:39-42) Those who did receive Him became 'sons of God' and would be part of the Church. (John 1:12-13)

(Acts 1:6) "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?"

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

No. Israel as a nation rejected her King and the Kingdom He offered. (John 1:11) (Luke 19:39-42) Those who did receive Him became 'sons of God' and would be part of the Church. (John 1:12-13)

(Acts 1:6) "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?"

Lees

The disciples were saved members of the OT Church, just like Lydia in Acts. They were already born again or they would not have perceived Jesus or endured following him. But only the born-again can see the Kingdom. as Jesus says. This makes me question Dispensationalists and Premillennialists about their salvation.

The kingdom is here now and will be complete in the New Heavens and Earth.

 

[Lees]

The disciples were saved members of the OT Church, just like Lydia in Acts. They were already born again or they would not have perceived Jesus or endured following him. But only the born-again can see the Kingdom. as Jesus says. This makes me question Dispensationalists and Premillennialists about their salvation.

The kingdom is here now and will be complete in the New Heavens and Earth.

Why does that make you question Dispensatinalists and Premillennialists about their salvation?

Lees

 

[1689Dave]

Why does that make you question Dispensatinalists and Premillennialists about their salvation?

Lees

Because only the born-again (saved) can see the kingdom today. The rest favor the Pharisee's Millennium and reject the gospel of the kingdom.