Eye of a needle

[eddif]

Recall the vision given zechariah.
Wild or natural an olive is still an olive.

Take a perspective of what 2 olive trees with root mounds would look like in the spirit of torah.

Blessings Always

I do not know about Torah.
but
I do have some double trunk pine trees that share genetics (?). I suppose they share the same water source.

For those who are totally lost in all this discussion. Jewish mysticism does sometimes bring some to Christ Jesus .

I am a gentile that has a little concept of Pardes.

I think pinacled is coming out of his area and eddif out of his, but there is some strange union of thought that is the one new man. Can I explain it fully? No. Do not leave us alone. Help us all have the eyes of our understanding opened to the hope of our calling in Christ Jesus.

eddif

 

[eddif]

Are you able to visualize 2 olive mounds with
trees atop each having their canopy grafted together?

)( )(

Actually my pine trees are grafted just above two root systems. This would allow the tree of life to be planted on either side of a river clear as crystal. The two trunks and canopies appear above ground level. The grafting is just out of sight.

The higher level of thought:

The cerebellum if dissected looks like two trees . Outside it looks like two walnuts joined ( mini brain). The spinal fluid flows as a river right between those two trees.
The spiritual union of Jew and Gentile is somehow wrapped up in all this.

As a Mississippi redneck I should just shut up. As a part of one new man I am trying to share.

eddif

 

[pinacled]

I do not know about Torah.
but
I do have some double trunk pine trees that share genetics (?). I suppose they share the same water source.

For those who are totally lost in all this discussion. Jewish mysticism does sometimes bring some to Christ Jesus .

I am a gentile that has a little concept of Pardes.

I think pinacled is coming out of his area and eddif out of his, but there is some strange union of thought that is the one new man. Can I explain it fully? No. Do not leave us alone. Help us all have the eyes of our understanding opened to the hope of our calling in Christ Jesus.

eddif

Interesting that 2 cedar pines with trunk pillars, a canopy, and roots for steps would be likened to a gate.

 

[eddif]

I will say. The cerebellum may be our carnal thinking. It is outside the thinking part of our brain. The thinking part of the brain seems to have no temple (symbols). Just God in there.

In the cerebellum are a multitude af nerves that are closer to flesh than God.

eddif

 

[pinacled]

Actually my pine trees are grafted just above two root systems. This would allow the tree of life to be planted on either side of a river clear as crystal. The two trunks and canopies appear above ground level. The grafting is just out of sight.

The higher level of thought:

The cerebellum if dissected looks like two trees . Outside it looks like two walnuts joined ( mini brain). The spinal fluid flows as a river right between those two trees.
The spiritual union of Jew and Gentile is somehow wrapped up in all this.

As a Mississippi redneck I should just shut up. As a part of one new man I am trying to share.

eddif

The walnut is an interesting analogy.
Though it has 2 hemispheres it's still a single fruit.
All trees are known by their fruit and reproduce after their own kind.

Please leave the kabbalah or mysticism aside while conversing in this thread.

Instead focus on the scripture being shared and visualize the "eye of the needle".

Imagine the valley as 2 trees with a canopy.

Do you see it?

 

[pinacled]

The walnut is an interesting analogy.
Though it has 2 hemispheres it's still a single fruit.
All trees are known by their fruit and reproduce after their own kind.

Please leave the kabbalah or mysticism aside while conversing in this thread.

Instead focus on the scripture being shared and visualize the "eye of the needle".

Imagine the valley as 2 trees with a canopy.

Do you see it?

This que is for all readers

 

[pinacled]

Actually my pine trees are grafted just above two root systems. This would allow the tree of life to be planted on either side of a river clear as crystal. The two trunks and canopies appear above ground level. The grafting is just out of sight.

The higher level of thought:

The cerebellum if dissected looks like two trees . Outside it looks like two walnuts joined ( mini brain). The spinal fluid flows as a river right between those two trees.
The spiritual union of Jew and Gentile is somehow wrapped up in all this.

As a Mississippi redneck I should just shut up. As a part of one new man I am trying to share.

eddif

Is a valley a single eye?

 

[eddif]

I guess I better use the biblical description for what for what happened on the day of Pentecost.
Acts 2:17 kjv
17. And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Days not just a day. For Paul he got information for years. Peter recognized the things hard to be understood that Paul spoke.

Peter got the vision / dream to go to the Gentiles.

The Gentiles received the Holy Spirit just like the Jews did.

Acts 10:44 kjv
44. While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word.
45. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

When Jewish disciples received the Holy Spirit they began to give higher level understanding that had been contained in the Law of Moses. The good news / gospel of what Jesus accomplished.

It was, however, the 1400s (?) before there was another major outbreak of Jewish understanding in a big way. Was it perfect, No. Did / does it lead to understanding Jesus? Yes in some cases. All of a sudden food laws become spiritual food of the word of God.

The Gentiles of today sometimes say ( oh that is a metaphorical statement ). And thus they yawn and do not try to see how the statement ties into the things hidden in the Law. When the Law is placed in your heart and mind the hidden things of the law come alive. It is not carnal reasoning.

Everyone evaluate what is being said. Give biblical judgements. Do not allow error.
But
Do hear truth. Do hear the hidden things of Ezekiels prophecy ( I will put my Law in their hearts and minds). Hearts and minds of Jew and Gentile alike. Not vain imaginations, but solid doctrine.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[eddif]

Is a valley a single eye?

Joel 3:14 kjv
14. Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

Valley of death
Valley of decision

maybe other valleys.
eddif

 

[eddif]

Isaiah 40:4
4. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

this calls for understanding.

eddif

 

[eddif]

Isaiah 40:4
4. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

this calls for understanding.

eddif

When we become convinced of sin we descend into a valley of depression.

In the depression we enter the valley of decision where we confess our sin.

We are filled with Jesus and are raised up.

if we think it is our works (and over exalt ourselves) we are brought lower .

The crooked paths of false doctrine are straightened as we follow Jesus.

The rubble of arguments between Jew and gentile, male and female, bond and free are leveled to allow smooth passage

I Peter 5:10
10. But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

From time to time there may be a little street repair:
Pot holes may appear that have to be filled.
Landslides of false doctrine have to be cleared.
But
In Christ differences can be settled.

Just never fall into lukewarm ness.

eddif

 

[eddif]

Matthew 23:12 kjv
12. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Yes mountains exist, but higher level parallels exist also.

 

[eddif]

Psalms 91:1 kjv
1. He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

One canopy may be in a valley shadow till the mountain is loweredthen both be in the shadow.

Symbolism does have limitations. Jesus is the reality that casts the shadows. Jesus is solid.

Gentile traditions are terrible at times. I try and not quote them.

 

[pinacled]

Psalms 91:1 kjv
1. He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

One canopy may be in a valley shadow till the mountain is loweredthen both be in the shadow.

Symbolism does have limitations. Jesus is the reality that casts the shadows. Jesus is solid.

Gentile traditions are terrible at times. I try and not quote them.

With what david spoke of concerning the canopy shade in psalm 23

Do you see 2 olive trees like a laying on of hands as an anointing?

 

[eddif]

Are you able to visualize 2 olive mounds with
trees atop each having their canopy grafted together?

)( )(

Is this a part of where you are headed?

https://www.andrews.edu/library/car/cardigital/Periodicals/AUSS/1982-3/1982-3-06.pdf

If it is a part, then Phillip and the Ethiopian Eunuch (scriptural insight over time) will be a part. Shrinking the camel to fit through the eye will ger me in trouble again.

This thread will take months to deal with it all. You will have to help unravel and thread the needle. Jesus fits in the eye, but getting others into the kingdom will go against a lot of traditions.

Mississippi redneck nobody
eddif

 

[pinacled]

Is this a part of where you are headed?

https://www.andrews.edu/library/car/cardigital/Periodicals/AUSS/1982-3/1982-3-06.pdf

If it is a part, then Phillip and the Ethiopian Eunuch (scriptural insight over time) will be a part. Shrinking the camel to fit through the eye will ger me in trouble again.

This thread will take months to deal with it all. You will have to help unravel and thread the needle. Jesus fits in the eye, but getting others into the kingdom will go against a lot of traditions.

Mississippi redneck nobody
eddif

The hint of thread is camel' hair.

 

[pinacled]

Is this a part of where you are headed?

https://www.andrews.edu/library/car/cardigital/Periodicals/AUSS/1982-3/1982-3-06.pdf

If it is a part, then Phillip and the Ethiopian Eunuch (scriptural insight over time) will be a part. Shrinking the camel to fit through the eye will ger me in trouble again.

This thread will take months to deal with it all. You will have to help unravel and thread the needle. Jesus fits in the eye, but getting others into the kingdom will go against a lot of traditions.

Mississippi redneck nobody
eddif

There are 2 mountains where a blessing or curse are spoken.
And The Lord of Lights ask that a person chose a mountain of life.
Where one mountain is thrown into the sea and the other is split into 2 resulting in Olive mounds and a valley with root steps.

Blessings Always

 

[pinacled]

Think of the rez(hint of) camel hair garment that is drash(seeking) of the needles eye by a preist .

When a certain number of camels carry a message the Torah of Spirit is heard.

Blessings Always

 

[eddif]

Is this the type of your authority?

The Symbolism of Light - Jewish Theological Seminary

As the menorah shines with all eight candles on this Shabbat Hanukkah, I am inspired to reflect on the powerful spiritual metaphor of light in the Jewish tradition.

www.jtsa.edu

IMHO

Side notes in Torah to a Jewish person are scripture.
All a Gentile has is Pentateuch (with no side notes)

All a Jew has is the New Testament ( with no side notes).

What a gentile thinks he has is modern side notes by their denominations favorite respectedthe authors. The Gentiles side notes.

What Jew and gentile alike have in common is the New Testament. We can speculate on what is said but our final authority can not be IMHO
Jewish teaditions
Ot
Gentile traditions

The Jewish traditions I try and accept are statements in the NT. Those statements make me sound terribly Jewish to a died in the wool gentile denominational person reading from their book of church order.

The gentile traditions I try and accept are made mostly by: Jewish Paul, Jewish Jesus, Jewish Peter, and Jewish council of Apostles statements about Gentiles. These statements make Gentiles think I am Jewish.

I am therefore pressured by:
Jews saying Spirit the Holy wrote our side notes
And
Gentiles saying the Holy Spirit wrote our side notes.

One new Man is very hard to fit through the eye of a needle.

Jesus left Heaven and conceived of the Holy Spirit easily fits through the eye in His humble condition.

The born again humbled Jew and Gentile may fit through the eye of the Kingdom needle but the arrogant (?).

mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[Lamb]

Is this the type of your authority?

The Symbolism of Light - Jewish Theological Seminary

As the menorah shines with all eight candles on this Shabbat Hanukkah, I am inspired to reflect on the powerful spiritual metaphor of light in the Jewish tradition.

www.jtsa.edu

IMHO

Side notes in Torah to a Jewish person are scripture.
All a Gentile has is Pentateuch (with no side notes)

All a Jew has is the New Testament ( with no side notes).

What a gentile thinks he has is modern side notes by their denominations favorite respectedthe authors. The Gentiles side notes.

What Jew and gentile alike have in common is the New Testament. We can speculate on what is said but our final authority can not be IMHO
Jewish teaditions
Ot
Gentile traditions

The Jewish traditions I try and accept are statements in the NT. Those statements make me sound terribly Jewish to a died in the wool gentile denominational person reading from their book of church order.

The gentile traditions I try and accept are made mostly by: Jewish Paul, Jewish Jesus, Jewish Peter, and Jewish council of Apostles statements about Gentiles. These statements make Gentiles think I am Jewish.

I am therefore pressured by:
Jews saying Spirit the Holy wrote our side notes
And
Gentiles saying the Holy Spirit wrote our side notes.

One new Man is very hard to fit through the eye of a needle.

Jesus left Heaven and conceived of the Holy Spirit easily fits through the eye in His humble condition.

The born again humbled Jew and Gentile may fit through the eye of the Kingdom needle but the arrogant (?).

mississippi redneck
eddif

More anti-Gentile rhetoric? I mean, I've told you before that Lutherans study Hebrew/Jews and their ways so they aren't studying Gentile ways or notes.