Slaves of Christ.

[MoreCoffee]

In the holy scriptures the expression "a slave of Christ" is common among Christians but what does it mean and how does one live as such a slave?

James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came to Jesus and said to him,
"Teacher, we want you to do for us whatever we ask of you."
He replied, "What do you wish me to do for you?"
They answered him, "Grant that in your glory
we may sit one at your right and the other at your left."
Jesus said to them, "You do not know what you are asking.
Can you drink the cup that I drink
or be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?"
They said to him, "We can."
Jesus said to them, "The cup that I drink, you will drink,
and with the baptism with which I am baptized, you will be baptized;
but to sit at my right or at my left is not mine to give
but is for those for whom it has been prepared."
When the ten heard this, they became indignant at James and John.
Jesus summoned them and said to them,
"You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles
lord it over them,
and their great ones make their authority over them felt.
But it shall not be so among you.
Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant;
whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all.
For the Son of Man did not come to be served
but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many." (Mark 10:35-45)​

 

[visionary]

Slaves have no life of their own, they are at their master's bidding for His good pleasure.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Slaves have no life of their own, they are at their master's bidding for His good pleasure.

I think slaves have their own loves, interests, hopes, and dreams.

 

[psalms 91]

and then their were those slaves who willingly chose to spend their lives withtheir masters. Do you think that perhaps that is what was being referred to when it says slaves of Christ?

 

[MoreCoffee]

and then their were those slaves who willingly chose to spend their lives withtheir masters. Do you think that perhaps that is what was being referred to when it says slaves of Christ?

Somehow the idea of slavery is very unattractive.

 

[Lamb]

Slavery in biblical times wasn't exactly the same as to how we remember American slavery with beatings and deprivations. People back then went into slavery to work off debts and once that was done they were freed.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Slavery in biblical times wasn't exactly the same as to how we remember American slavery with beatings and deprivations. People back then went into slavery to work off debts and once that was done they were freed.

Roman slavery wasn't all that good; consider Spartacus (the 1960s film) ...

 

[Lamb]

I'm not talking about Roman slavery. Think separately with the Jews and how they viewed it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I'm not talking about Roman slavery. Think separately with the Jews and how they viewed it.

Saint Paul was writing about Roman slavery.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You can be a slave to sin, or a slave to God. None can have two masters. As they are opposite, one leads to end and the other leads to purity and life.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[MoreCoffee]

You can be a slave to sin, or a slave to God. None can have two masters. As they are opposite, one leads to end and the other leads to purity and life.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

I think you're right that one serves on or the other yet the idea that a slave has no life of his/her own seems like an overstatement of the more moderate view taught in holy scripture.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I think you're right that one serves on or the other yet the idea that a slave has no life of his/her own seems like an overstatement of the more moderate view taught in holy scripture.

It surprises me that you find direction under God to be that of moderation based on scripture. I don't care for the word slave either. To be wholly under God is to follow his will wholly leaving no room for your own wants whatsoever. It's not technically a hard line not to be crossed but we are to work continually with perseverance towards the direction given by God. Thankfully he is merciful.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[pinacled]

In the holy scriptures the expression "a slave of Christ" is common among Christians but what does it mean and how does one live as such a slave?

James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came to Jesus and said to him,
"Teacher, we want you to do for us whatever we ask of you."
He replied, "What do you wish me to do for you?"
They answered him, "Grant that in your glory
we may sit one at your right and the other at your left."
Jesus said to them, "You do not know what you are asking.
Can you drink the cup that I drink
or be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?"
They said to him, "We can."
Jesus said to them, "The cup that I drink, you will drink,
and with the baptism with which I am baptized, you will be baptized;
but to sit at my right or at my left is not mine to give
but is for those for whom it has been prepared."
When the ten heard this, they became indignant at James and John.
Jesus summoned them and said to them,
"You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles
lord it over them,
and their great ones make their authority over them felt.
But it shall not be so among you.
Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant;
whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all.
For the Son of Man did not come to be served
but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many." (Mark 10:35-45)
​

I believe slave of Christ has a misleading connotation.


Yeshua/Jesus is speaking of the 12 and himself.
Which should help in Understanding the 12 Foundations and 12 pearls

But it is not so among you: but whosoever would become great among you, shall be your minister;

and whosoever would be first among you, shall be servant of all.

For the Son of man also came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

And they come to Jericho: and as he went out from Jericho, with his disciples and a great multitude, the son of Timaeus, Bartimaeus, a blind beggar, was sitting by the way side.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

I believe slave of Christ has a misleading connotation.


Yeshua/Jesus is speaking of the 12 and himself.
Which should help in Understanding the 12 Foundations and 12 pearls

But it is not so among you: but whosoever would become great among you, shall be your minister;

and whosoever would be first among you, shall be servant of all.

For the Son of man also came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

And they come to Jericho: and as he went out from Jericho, with his disciples and a great multitude, the son of Timaeus, Bartimaeus, a blind beggar, was sitting by the way side.

Good thing. As I read, Christ is speaking of being a slave to all, not merely to Christ. If he were speaking of me, too, then I'd really be in trouble. Thanks for pointing that out... :/

 

[pinacled]

Good thing. As I read, Christ is speaking of being a slave to all, not merely to Christ. If he were speaking of me, too, then I'd really be in trouble. Thanks for pointing that out... :/

I was just pointing out the word itself. Slave vs Servant.
Like the word minister.
Contrast...

 

[pinacled]

In the holy scriptures the expression "a slave of Christ" is common among Christians but what does it mean and how does one live as such a slave?

James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came to Jesus and said to him,
"Teacher, we want you to do for us whatever we ask of you."
He replied, "What do you wish me to do for you?"
They answered him, "Grant that in your glory
we may sit one at your right and the other at your left."
Jesus said to them, "You do not know what you are asking.
Can you drink the cup that I drink
or be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?"
They said to him, "We can."
Jesus said to them, "The cup that I drink, you will drink,
and with the baptism with which I am baptized, you will be baptized;
but to sit at my right or at my left is not mine to give
but is for those for whom it has been prepared."
When the ten heard this, they became indignant at James and John.
Jesus summoned them and said to them,
"You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles
lord it over them,
and their great ones make their authority over them felt.
But it shall not be so among you.
Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant;
whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all.
For the Son of Man did not come to be served
but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many." (Mark 10:35-45)​

This is an excellent subject for Study..

Look at the Imagery provided and take count.
12 Disciples.
1 ask to be on the Left. The other on the Right.
Leaving 5 under each.
Now Compared with Numbers.

-Reuben; Elizur the son of Shedeur.
Reuben, were forty and six thousand and five hundred.
-Simeon; Shelumiel the son of Zurishaddai.
Simeon, were fifty and nine thousand and three hundred.
-Judah; Nahshon the son of Amminadab.
Judah, were threescore and fourteen thousand and six hundred.
- Issachar; Nethaneel the son of Zuar.
Issachar, were fifty and four thousand and four hundred.
-Zebulun; Eliab the son of Helon.
Zebulun, were fifty and seven thousand and four hundred.

Ephraim;
Elishama the son of Ammihud:
Ephraim, were forty thousand and five hundred.

Manasseh
; Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur.
Manasseh, were thirty and two thousand and two hundred.

-Benjamin; Abidan the son of Gideoni.
Benjamin, were thirty and five thousand and four hundred.
-Dan; Ahiezer the son of Ammishaddai.
Dan, were threescore and two thousand and seven hundred.
-Asher; Pagiel the son of Ocran.
Asher, were forty and one thousand and five hundred.
-Gad; Eliasaph the son of Deuel.
Gad, were forty and five thousand six hundred and fifty.
-Naphtali; Ahira the son of Enan.
Naphtali, were fifty and three thousand and four hundred.