Odë:hgöd
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• Gen 22:11-12a . .Then an angel of God called to him from heaven: Abraham!
Abraham! And he answered: Here I am. And he said: Do not raise your hand
against the lad, or do anything to him.
There are some who feel that the angel stopped Abraham at this point because he
misunderstood the instructions God gave to him back in verse 2; which were: "Take
your son, your favored one, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah,
and offer him there as a burnt offering"
But an interpretation of that nature impugns the quality of Abraham's spiritual
acumen as a man whom God said in Gen 20:7 was a prophet. Abraham no doubt
understood his Master perfectly and knew just what he was expected to do. He had
three days to pray about it and request confirmation.
Abraham was supposed to kill Isaac, and that is exactly what he tried to do, and
would have done; had not the angel stopped him in the nick of time. And the angel
stopped him not because it was wrong. No. The angel stopped Abraham from killing
Isaac because He had seen enough.
• Gen 22:12b . . For now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld
your son, your favored one, from me.
The words: "not withheld . . . from me" indicate Abraham's compliance with the
instructions he was given back in Gen 22:1-2.
Although the instructions originated with God, they didn't come to Abraham directly
from God, rather, via an angel of God; which are not always celestial beings, viz:
angels of God are sometimes apparitions, e.g. smoke, fire, earthquakes, voices,
horns, wind, and humans. (It is required that people respect those kinds of divine
appearances as it they are God himself in person.)
FAQ: Isn't God omniscient, and doesn't He have an ability to scan the future? Then
why did the voice say "now I know". Doesn't God always know everything there is
to know?
A: Knowing things as a spectator is quite a bit different than knowing things by
omniscience. God sometimes favors seeing things for Himself in real time, as an
eyewitness.
Of course God knew in advance that Abraham would go thru with offering his son,
but that kind of knowing doesn't always satisfy God. No, sometimes He prefers to
be on-site and observe things unfold as current events.
So although God knew by His intellect that Abraham would comply with the angel's
instructions, now He also has a first-hand knowledge of Abraham's compliance by
personal experience, i.e. God, via the angel, was there in the bleachers, so to
speak, watching all the action from first to last.
• Gen 22:13 . .When Abraham looked up, his eye fell upon a ram, caught in the
thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram and offered it up as a
burnt offering in place of his son.
The covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy a few centuries later would not have allowed Abraham
to substitute a ram for Isaac. (Lev 27:28-29)
According to a documentary I recently watched on NetFlix; approximately 2,000
Muslim butchers assemble for Mecca every year and slaughter something like
700,000 to 800,000 sheep to commemorate the ram that Abraham sacrificed in his
son's stead. Islam of course believes the son was Ishmael instead of Isaac.
The animals aren't consumed by the hajis. Instead; they're processed, packaged,
and shipped to poor people around the world. Well; it would be nice if some of the
people of Somalia and North Korea got a number of those sheep because they
could sure use them. Ironically, Islamic militants have been thwarting efforts to get
aid to the Somalian people. Where's the spirit of Mecca in that?
• Gen 22:14 . . And Abraham named that site Adonai-yireh, whence the present
saying: On the mount of God there is vision.
Chabad dot org translates that like this:
"And Abraham named that place, The Lord will see, as it is said to this day: On the
mountain, the Lord will be seen."
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• Gen 22:11-12a . .Then an angel of God called to him from heaven: Abraham!
Abraham! And he answered: Here I am. And he said: Do not raise your hand
against the lad, or do anything to him.
There are some who feel that the angel stopped Abraham at this point because he
misunderstood the instructions God gave to him back in verse 2; which were: "Take
your son, your favored one, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah,
and offer him there as a burnt offering"
But an interpretation of that nature impugns the quality of Abraham's spiritual
acumen as a man whom God said in Gen 20:7 was a prophet. Abraham no doubt
understood his Master perfectly and knew just what he was expected to do. He had
three days to pray about it and request confirmation.
Abraham was supposed to kill Isaac, and that is exactly what he tried to do, and
would have done; had not the angel stopped him in the nick of time. And the angel
stopped him not because it was wrong. No. The angel stopped Abraham from killing
Isaac because He had seen enough.
• Gen 22:12b . . For now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld
your son, your favored one, from me.
The words: "not withheld . . . from me" indicate Abraham's compliance with the
instructions he was given back in Gen 22:1-2.
Although the instructions originated with God, they didn't come to Abraham directly
from God, rather, via an angel of God; which are not always celestial beings, viz:
angels of God are sometimes apparitions, e.g. smoke, fire, earthquakes, voices,
horns, wind, and humans. (It is required that people respect those kinds of divine
appearances as it they are God himself in person.)
FAQ: Isn't God omniscient, and doesn't He have an ability to scan the future? Then
why did the voice say "now I know". Doesn't God always know everything there is
to know?
A: Knowing things as a spectator is quite a bit different than knowing things by
omniscience. God sometimes favors seeing things for Himself in real time, as an
eyewitness.
Of course God knew in advance that Abraham would go thru with offering his son,
but that kind of knowing doesn't always satisfy God. No, sometimes He prefers to
be on-site and observe things unfold as current events.
So although God knew by His intellect that Abraham would comply with the angel's
instructions, now He also has a first-hand knowledge of Abraham's compliance by
personal experience, i.e. God, via the angel, was there in the bleachers, so to
speak, watching all the action from first to last.
• Gen 22:13 . .When Abraham looked up, his eye fell upon a ram, caught in the
thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram and offered it up as a
burnt offering in place of his son.
The covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy a few centuries later would not have allowed Abraham
to substitute a ram for Isaac. (Lev 27:28-29)
According to a documentary I recently watched on NetFlix; approximately 2,000
Muslim butchers assemble for Mecca every year and slaughter something like
700,000 to 800,000 sheep to commemorate the ram that Abraham sacrificed in his
son's stead. Islam of course believes the son was Ishmael instead of Isaac.
The animals aren't consumed by the hajis. Instead; they're processed, packaged,
and shipped to poor people around the world. Well; it would be nice if some of the
people of Somalia and North Korea got a number of those sheep because they
could sure use them. Ironically, Islamic militants have been thwarting efforts to get
aid to the Somalian people. Where's the spirit of Mecca in that?
• Gen 22:14 . . And Abraham named that site Adonai-yireh, whence the present
saying: On the mount of God there is vision.
Chabad dot org translates that like this:
"And Abraham named that place, The Lord will see, as it is said to this day: On the
mountain, the Lord will be seen."
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