Judgement upon a new moon

[Stravinsk]

What statement?

Yes,
I could easily tell time while observing the sun, moon, and stars
The sun for 24 hr days.
The moon for months.
And the stars for seasons.

Blessings Always

So tell me what day the Sabbath falls this week, and how the sun moon and stars tell you this.

You said earlier the holy days are fixed. So I'm asking how you determine the Sabbath day by your statement (referencing sun/moon/stars) in the scenario you were disoriented and didn't know the day of the week/month etc and couldn't find out by contact with some other person. Clear enough?

 

[pinacled]

You said earlier the holy days are fixed. So I'm asking how you determine the Sabbath day by your statement (referencing sun/moon/stars) in the scenario you were disoriented and didn't know the day of the week/month etc and couldn't find out by contact with some other person. Clear enough?

A shabbat is within 7 cycles of the sun.
An unchanging constant that constitutes the birth of a nation.
Counting the evenings and mornings till shabbat reveals a number of pearls.

The scenario you have proposed is called a hypothetical.

Again.
Why have you called a full moon a new moon?
Please clarify

 

[Stravinsk]

A shabbat is within 7 cycles of the sun.
An unchanging constant that constitutes the birth of a nation.
Counting the evenings and mornings till shabbat reveals a number of pearls.

Eh, o k. So describe a "sun cycle" and how you find the exact day of the Sabbath within 7 of them if you are completely without knowledge of what day it is and can only find out without referencing technology, society or a person connected to such....

The scenario you have proposed is called a hypothetical.

It is, but not unrealistic. People often forget what day it is living in modern society (especially, say, during vacations or other periods where they may not be very active/sticking to a schedule etc), and have to find out via their computer, watch, or other persons. The scenario I described eliminates all of these. Maybe you're in a war torn land, fell asleep and forgot the day. The electricity has been knocked out, and it will be at least a month before you can venture into any gathering of other humans with sense of safety. Find the Sabbath in this period without someone who knows for sure the day and without any tech devices.

Again.
Why have you called a full moon a new moon?
Please clarify

Why do you call the "new moon" something other than a full moon? Because that's what the dictionary or Wikipedia says, or Nasa, or it's what "everyone knows"?

 

[pinacled]

Eh, o k. So describe a "sun cycle" and how you find the exact day of the Sabbath within 7 of them if you are completely without knowledge of what day it is and can only find out without referencing technology, society or a person connected to such....




It is, but not unrealistic. People often forget what day it is living in modern society (especially, say, during vacations or other periods where they may not be very active/sticking to a schedule etc), and have to find out via their computer, watch, or other persons. The scenario I described eliminates all of these. Maybe you're in a war torn land, fell asleep and forgot the day. The electricity has been knocked out, and it will be at least a month before you can venture into any gathering of other humans with sense of safety. Find the Sabbath in this period without someone who knows for sure the day and without any tech devices.


Why do you call the "new moon" something other than a full moon? Because that's what the dictionary or Wikipedia says, or Nasa, or it's what "everyone knows"?

In the last paragraph your response reveals a lack of pearls.
Consider that upon the 4th yom Both the sun and moon were new.
Then explore further as how 7 yammin were given light from the beginning.

Far as I can see.
The entire 7 yammin were lit by shabbat.
A shabbat preceding shabbat.
The 4 cycles of the moon remind a person to divide night and day in remembrence of a day star.
Though a person feels a number of Pearl's are an insult.
They should rest in faith with a promised inheritance.

Do you know how many children leah bore?

 

[Stravinsk]

In the last paragraph your response reveals a lack of pearls.
Consider that upon the 4th yom the moon was new.
Then explore further as how 7 yammin were given light from the beginning.

Please show me the Genesis passage (or a reference to it) that proves what cycle (percentage of light) the moon was in on the 4th day.

As for pearls and counting/having them, you seem to be referencing some religious literature I am unaware of (at least insofar as days are concerned).

Far as I can see.
The entire 7 yammin were lit by shabbat.
A shabbat preceding shabbat.
The 4 cycles of the moon remind a person to divide night and day in remembrence of a day star.
Though a person feels a number of Pearl's are an insult.
They should rest in faith with a promised inheritance.

Do you know how many children leah bore?

You are avoiding the question. That's fine. It's difficult, I understand. Let me guess, you are a messianic jew who keeps a Saturday Sabbath and has fellowship with others who do the same?

 

[pinacled]

Please show me the Genesis passage (or a reference to it) that proves what cycle (percentage of light) the moon was in on the 4th day.

As for pearls and counting/having them, you seem to be referencing some religious literature I am unaware of (at least insofar as days are concerned).


You are avoiding the question. That's fine. It's difficult, I understand. Let me guess, you are a messianic jew who keeps a Saturday Sabbath and has fellowship with others who do the same?

I fellowship with many congregations.

As for counting days.
A Males birth is a first yom(day) a light.
After the second shabbat they're made whole and recognized as apart of the covenant.

Then in contrast there are the daughters who are considered a new moon shabbat.

Do you remember what our Lord spoke of concerning leaving and clinging?

 

[Stravinsk]

I fellowship with many congregations.

As for counting days.
A Males birth is a first yom(day) a light.
After the second shabbat they're made whole and recognized as apart of the covenant.

Then in contrast there are the daughters who are considered a new moon shabbat.

Do you remember what our Lord spoke of concerning leaving and clinging?

Just to be clear, what day is Sabbath(shabbat) to you this week. Is it every day, or a specific day, because your language in posts like this and earlier definitions are in conflict.

 

[pinacled]

Just to be clear, what day is Sabbath(shabbat) to you this week. Is it every day, or a specific day, because your language in posts like this and earlier definitions are in conflict.

The birth of a nation shabbat was yesterday.

My shabbat is another yom.

What day where you born?

 

[Stravinsk]

The birth of a nation shabbat was yesterday.

My shabbat is another yom.

What day where you born?

Forget about a "birth of a nation". What day (yom) is your shabbat for this week?

 

[pinacled]

Forget about a "birth of a nation". What day (yom) is your shabbat for this week?

Shalo'yom shlishi

 

[Stravinsk]

Shalo'yom shlishi

So Tuesday. Will it also be Tuesday next week? For all the weeks to come?

 

[pinacled]

So Tuesday. Will it also be Tuesday next week? For all the weeks to come?

Yes,
In cycles of 7 for eternity.

 

[pinacled]

So Tuesday. Will it also be Tuesday next week? For all the weeks to come?

Are you afraid of the new moon?

 

[Stravinsk]

Yes,
In cycles of 7 for eternity.

So then, can you answer either of the scenarios I posted earlier with reference to the day you keep as shabbat, and tell me how you find it when you have been disoriented and do not know the day, without technology, without other people? Or will you keep avoiding this question?

 

[pinacled]

So then, can you answer either of the scenarios I posted earlier with reference to the day you keep as shabbat, and tell me how you find it when you have been disoriented and do not know the day, without technology, without other people? Or will you keep avoiding this question?

One shabbat is a bow.
Then there are a number of arrows within the quiver resting within another shabbat.

Do you know the number of arrows that bless?

 

[Stravinsk]

One shabbat is a bow.
Then there are a number of arrows within the quiver resting within another shabbat.

Do you know the number of arrows that bless?

lol. O k I have my answer to the question I posted in the previous post.

 

[pinacled]

lol. O k I have my answer to the question I posted in the previous post.

How so?

 

[pinacled]

lol. O k I have my answer to the question I posted in the previous post.

Using acronyms tells me that you concede defeat

 

[Stravinsk]

How so?

Because you will not defend the day you consider the Shabbat in any scenario where you have been disoriented, forgotten what day it is, and have no way (through technology, or other people) of finding it. That could be knocked out and on a deserted island. That could be put unconscious for a number of days in a war torn area by some falling debris and waking without electricity or other people around to tell you what day it is.

You said earlier the holy days are fixed and also acknowledge that Genesis is true when the sun and moon determine "days, years, seasons". Yet you will not tell me how you use them to determine your Tuesday rest day.

You also stated that on the 4th day (of the Creation Genesis week) the moon was "new", and have yet to show either in Genesis (or a reference to Genesis) what state the moon was in for that day in Creation week.

Instead, I am treated to bows and quivers, rhetoric about pearls and asked my day of birth.

I think the laughter is beyond justified. lol

 

[pinacled]

Because you will not defend the day you consider the Shabbat in any scenario where you have been disoriented, forgotten what day it is, and have no way (through technology, or other people) of finding it. That could be knocked out and on a deserted island. That could be put unconscious for a number of days in a war torn area by some falling debris and waking without electricity or other people around to tell you what day it is.

You said earlier the holy days are fixed and also acknowledge that Genesis is true when the sun and moon determine "days, years, seasons". Yet you will not tell me how you use them to determine your Tuesday rest day.

You also stated that on the 4th day (of the Creation Genesis week) the moon was "new", and have yet to show either in Genesis (or a reference to Genesis) what state the moon was in for that day in Creation week.

Instead, I am treated to bows and quivers, rhetoric about pearls and asked my day of birth.

I think the laughter is beyond justified. lol

I'm glad to find curiousity amongst fear.

A new moon has secrets