Survey reveals Evangelicals drifting from scripture

[Lanman87]

Thirdly: it has only been the catholic leaders who have openly accepted worldly positions in defiance of The Holy Sriptures and sound doctrine.

I don't know about that. The United Methodist Church is in the process of splitting over gay marriage. Many of the "mainline" Protestant churches have either accepted "Social Justice" theology or embraced the LGBTQ ideology. The local Episcopal church in my city host the local LGBTQ groups meetings.

In short, they have rejected traditional Christian Morality and "The five solas" in favor of a cultural gospel and morality.

So it is not only Catholic leaders who have openly accepted worldly positions in defiance of the Holy Scriptures and sound doctrine.

We non-Catholic Christians have our own issues. Be it the influence of word of Faith televangelist theology on one side or liberal/cultural theology on the other.

 

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I don't know about that. The United Methodist Church is in the process of splitting over gay marriage. Many of the "mainline" Protestant churches have either accepted "Social Justice" theology or embraced the LGBTQ ideology. The local Episcopal church in my city host the local LGBTQ groups meetings.

In short, they have rejected traditional Christian Morality and "The five solas" in favor of a cultural gospel and morality.

So it is not only Catholic leaders who have openly accepted worldly positions in defiance of the Holy Scriptures and sound doctrine.

We non-Catholic Christians have our own issues. Be it the influence of word of Faith televangelist theology on one side or liberal/cultural theology on the other.

I serve with the Methodist conference.
And I assure you that they have no plans to abandon the sanctity of marriage.

[ "Many of the "mainline" Protestant churches have either accepted "Social Justice" theology or embraced the LGBTQ ideology. The local Episcopal church in my city host the local LGBTQ groups meetings."]

As for the episcopalian denomination and others.
Show evidence to prove your statement

 

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I serve with the Methodist conference.
And I assure you that they have no plans to abandon the sanctity of marriage.

[ "Many of the "mainline" Protestant churches have either accepted "Social Justice" theology or embraced the LGBTQ ideology. The local Episcopal church in my city host the local LGBTQ groups meetings."]

As for the episcopalian denomination and others.
Show evidence to prove your statement

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/religion/2018/07/13/episcopal-church-same-sex-gay-marriage/761572002/.

United Methodist Church Announces Proposal to Split Over Gay Marriage

With split over gay marriage delayed, United Methodists face a year in limbo

US Presbyterian church recognises gay marriage

 

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https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/religion/2018/07/13/episcopal-church-same-sex-gay-marriage/761572002/.

United Methodist Church Announces Proposal to Split Over Gay Marriage

With split over gay marriage delayed, United Methodists face a year in limbo

US Presbyterian church recognises gay marriage

Providing secular sources from media platforms is far from the definition of evidence.
Thankyou for providing to my point about wolves in sheeps clothing.


[" The local Episcopal church in my city host the local LGBTQ groups meetings."]

My specific question was for you to provide evidence that the Episcopal congregation nearest your labode has hosted LGBTQ events.

 

[Lanman87]

Providing secular sources from media platforms is far from the definition of evidence.
Thankyou for providing to my point about wolves in sheeps clothing.


[" The local Episcopal church in my city host the local LGBTQ groups meetings."]

My specific question was for you to provide evidence that the Episcopal congregation nearest your labode has hosted LGBTQ events.

You are just going to have to take my word for it. A co-worker of mine is part of the group and I was checking on his facebook page last year and saw that they were having a meeting at the Episcopal church. I have neither the time or desire to track it down. I don't know if that group is even still in existence, but I do know they either do or did meet at the local Episcopal church.

 

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You are just going to have to take my word for it. A co-worker of mine is part of the group and I was checking on his facebook page last year and saw that they were having a meeting at the Episcopal church. I have neither the time or desire to track it down. I don't know if that group is even still in existence, but I do know they either do or did meet at the local Episcopal church.

Sorry,
But I don't accept hearsay accounts as evidence.

And I ll give advice to yourself and other readers here.
Missinformation is a well known military tact used in both psychological and spiritual warfare.

Blessing Always

 

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Providing secular sources from media platforms is far from the definition of evidence.
Thankyou for providing to my point about wolves in sheeps clothing.

Would the Episcopal Diocese of Newark web page suffice?

Same-Sex Marriage Guidelines | The Episcopal Diocese of Newark

or how about the Episcopal Churches official website?

LGBTQ in the Church

or how about the United Methodist page that says the 2020 conference (that never happened because of COVID) will deal with the issue of "separation" to form "new expressions of Methodism"

What is the Church's position on homosexuality? | The United Methodist Church

 

[Lanman87]

Sorry,
But I don't accept hearsay accounts as evidence.

It's not hearsay. I am the witness, I saw it myself. Now, you can say I'm lying and that's fine. But I know what I saw.

 

[Lanman87]

But I don't accept hearsay accounts as evidence.

But I did an quick google and found this. Notice the location of the Pride Coaltions event.

Athens Pride Coalition

I also checked the churches calendar and they are still having the "Free2Be" youth meetings on Tuesday nights. Apparantly Free2Be is a LGBTQ support group. Saint Timothy's

 

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Would the Episcopal Diocese of Newark web page suffice?

Same-Sex Marriage Guidelines | The Episcopal Diocese of Newark

or how about the Episcopal Churches official website?

LGBTQ in the Church

or how about the United Methodist page that says the 2020 conference (that never happened because of COVID) will deal with the issue of "separation" to form "new expressions of Methodism"

What is the Church's position on homosexuality? | The United Methodist Church

Does the Newark episcopal congregation have an address?

 

[Lanman87]

Does the Newark episcopal congregation have an address?

It's on their website under "contact us".

 

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It's on their website under "contact us".

Found it.
And after a quick view I find the buildings architecture to be inordinately new looking.
I will contact them personally.
And will contact the city to find out more info.

 

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1/3 of Evangelicals don't believe Jesus is God? That's a horrible outcome and is showing that people are straying from Christianity while still claiming to be believers. What's also shocking is that they believe Jesus was created! It's the trend of moving away from creeds and the biblical truths that the creeds teach.

Basic math dissmisses this polls numbers and assertions.
It's a farce of disception used by media platforms in order to sway readers to believe something that is entirely contrary to The Truth and sound doctrine.
It's the old adadage of, he jumped off the bridge/cliff, so follow the broad path as all the other christians have.

It's quite obvious that this poll is a lie from the enemy.

Steer clear of facehook lamech'en

 

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It's not hearsay. I am the witness, I saw it myself. Now, you can say I'm lying and that's fine. But I know what I saw.

[ "You are just going to have to take my word for it. A co-worker of mine is part of the group and I was checking on his facebook page last year and saw that they were having a meeting at the Episcopal church."]

Definition of HEARSAY

rumor; hearsay evidence… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

The testimony in brackets above is the definitive of hearsay/gossip/ slander.

As I mentioned before.
It's best to steer clear of facehook and certain media platforms that promote mighty(q) accusations against the Holy Body of The Faithfull.

Blessings Always

 

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[ "You are just going to have to take my word for it. A co-worker of mine is part of the group and I was checking on his facebook page last year and saw that they were having a meeting at the Episcopal church."]

Definition of HEARSAY

rumor; hearsay evidence… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

The testimony in brackets above is the definitive of hearsay/gossip/ slander.

As I mentioned before.
It's best to steer clear of facehook and certain media platforms that promote mighty(q) accusations against the Holy Body of The Faithfull.

Blessings Always

It is not gossip if I am the witness. It would only be hearsay if I told you what someone else told me without validating it for myself. At any rate, I provided the link to where I saw the Pride Event at the local Episcopal church so now it is a moot point.

Now you may not think those things "openly accepted worldly positions in defiance of The Holy Sriptures and sound doctrine" but I certainly do.

 

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It's a farce of disception used by media platforms in order to sway readers to believe something that is entirely contrary to The Truth and sound doctrine.

Just curious, how does reporting a survey that says people aren't believing truth and sound doctrine trying to sway people to believe something that is contrary to truth and sound doctrine?

Ligioner Ministries (Presbyterian) and Lifeway (Southern Baptist) are two of the most conservative organizations defending of truth and sound doctrine in the Evangelical church today. The call of this survey is not to believe false teachings it is a call for the church to re-focus the teaching of "truth and sound doctrine" because, for whatever reason, some who call themselves Christian aren't following the historic and Biblical teaching of Christianity. In particular, the Christological teachings that have been a part of Christianity since the Apostolic age.

 

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Just curious, how does reporting a survey that says people aren't believing truth and sound doctrine trying to sway people to believe something that is contrary to truth and sound doctrine?

Ligioner Ministries (Presbyterian) and Lifeway (Southern Baptist) are two of the most conservative organizations defending of truth and sound doctrine in the Evangelical church today. The call of this survey is not to believe false teachings it is a call for the church to re-focus the teaching of "truth and sound doctrine" because, for whatever reason, some who call themselves Christian aren't following the historic and Biblical teaching of Christianity. In particular, the Christological teachings that have been a part of Christianity since the Apostolic age.

To answer your question in the first paragraph.
Simple.
The poll itself is deceptive.

Questioning with healthy skepticism brings a person to an understanding of such dishonesty.

Where are the stats for the number of people who answered the poll.
Where are stats on age, gender, demographics, location, and how the poll was administered.

 

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To answer your question in the first paragraph.
Simple.
The poll itself is deceptive.

Questioning with healthy skepticism bring a person to an understanding of such dishonesty.

Where are the stats for the number of people who answered the poll.
Where are stats on age, gender, demographics, location, and how the poll was administered.

Here

 

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Here

Nothing to see there but percentages.

Not a single answer to any of my questions.

 

[Lanman87]

Nothing to see there but percentages.

Not a single answer to any of my questions.

From the site:

• A demographically balanced online panel was used for interviewing American adults.
• 3002 surveys were completed March 10-18, 2020.
• The sample provides 95% confidence that the sampling error from the online panel does not exceed ±2.0%.
• Margins of error are higher when filters are applied.
• Results are weighted to balance gender, age, ethnicity, income, region, and religion.

It has every question asked (you can even answer the questions yourself) and if you click on data explorer you can see how different ages, genders, regions, Density of the population, education levels, income levels, marital status, ethnicity, religious affiliation, belief (self identify as evangelical or not), and church attendance answered the questions.

Do you have other questions?