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What if the theologian had a personal encounter with the Holy One?
Then he is more than a theologian and his transformation in behavior, thinking, verbiage and in writings will reflect the knowledge from the encounter.
 

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Then he is more than a theologian and his transformation in behavior, thinking, verbiage and in writings will reflect the knowledge from the encounter.

Does that mean he or she would agree with you? :flowers1:
 

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What if the theologian had a personal encounter with the Holy One?
You would think that individual would be good to go. Patience and perseverance though.

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Does that mean he or she would agree with you? :flowers1:
Probably in the same way Peter and Paul agreed, not necessarily. The foundation upon which they rest their faith is larger and stronger, but that doesn't mean the the fringe is the same, because encounters with God are about subjects close to the heart. For some people it is one thing, for others it is about something else. Not everyone gets John the Revelation type of experience, sometimes it is the prayer shawl eye opener for a soon coming change in attitude towards your fellow man, and other times it is conversation with an angel [ entertaining an angel unawares]. Does that mean that they would agree with me? Actually, I have found that when spiritual experienced people meet, they "know" that God has been with them, and we connect on a level that is not theology but reality. It is always a blessing to connect.
 

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Probably in the same way Peter and Paul agreed, not necessarily. The foundation upon which they rest their faith is larger and stronger, but that doesn't mean the the fringe is the same, because encounters with God are about subjects close to the heart. For some people it is one thing, for others it is about something else. Not everyone gets John the Revelation type of experience, sometimes it is the prayer shawl eye opener for a soon coming change in attitude towards your fellow man, and other times it is conversation with an angel [ entertaining an angel unawares]. Does that mean that they would agree with me? Actually, I have found that when spiritual experienced people meet, they "know" that God has been with them, and we connect on a level that is not theology but reality. It is always a blessing to connect.
Truth, very astute
 

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Probably in the same way Peter and Paul agreed, not necessarily. The foundation upon which they rest their faith is larger and stronger, but that doesn't mean the the fringe is the same, because encounters with God are about subjects close to the heart. For some people it is one thing, for others it is about something else. Not everyone gets John the Revelation type of experience, sometimes it is the prayer shawl eye opener for a soon coming change in attitude towards your fellow man, and other times it is conversation with an angel [ entertaining an angel unawares]. Does that mean that they would agree with me? Actually, I have found that when spiritual experienced people meet, they "know" that God has been with them, and we connect on a level that is not theology but reality. It is always a blessing to connect.

Saint Paul appears to think their disagreement was far from a fringe matter, he says, "When Peter came to Antioch, I told him face to face that he was wrong. He used to eat with Gentile followers of the Lord, until James sent some Jewish followers. Peter was afraid of the Jews and soon stopped eating with Gentiles. He and the other Jews hid their true feelings so well that even Barnabas was fooled. But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone and said: Peter, you are a Jew, but you live like a Gentile. So how can you force Gentiles to live like Jews?" (Galatians 2:11-14 CEV)
 

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Saint Paul appears to think their disagreement was far from a fringe matter, he says, "When Peter came to Antioch, I told him face to face that he was wrong. He used to eat with Gentile followers of the Lord, until James sent some Jewish followers. Peter was afraid of the Jews and soon stopped eating with Gentiles. He and the other Jews hid their true feelings so well that even Barnabas was fooled. But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone and said: Peter, you are a Jew, but you live like a Gentile. So how can you force Gentiles to live like Jews?" (Galatians 2:11-14 CEV)
Today, it would be considered a fringe matter since this issue is hardly ever brought up in churches, nor can it be found in their doctrines.
 

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Today, it would be considered a fringe matter since this issue is hardly ever brought up in churches, nor can it be found in their doctrines.
It is revealed and pertinent in that one will not be able to bring unity under God through Christ without being of the law fully and without sin as they will be circumcised of sin and reborn in the spirit wholly under God by way of sacrifice of sin within self and release and payment for previous sin as it is paid for by the sacrifice of the Christ the son of God.

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Today, it would be considered a fringe matter since this issue is hardly ever brought up in churches, nor can it be found in their doctrines.

Doesn't that only show how far from apostolic faith are today's values.
 

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Doesn't that only show how far from apostolic faith are today's values.
Yep.. far in the wrong direction.. it should still be very important, but alas Acts 15 rules mostly don't even enter into today's Christian mind... in fact, thinking about all that delicious rare steak with blood still running in it... hmmm.. most do not see the connection.
 

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Yep.. far in the wrong direction.. it should still be very important, but alas Acts 15 rules mostly don't even enter into today's Christian mind... in fact, thinking about all that delicious rare steak with blood still running in it... hmmm.. most do not see the connection.

You think the decisions of Acts 15 are pivotal?
 

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You think the decisions of Acts 15 are pivotal?
Example... but in the minds of most Christians it is not pivotal to their own personal lives.
 

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Example... but in the minds of most Christians it is not pivotal to their own personal lives.

Very few Christians in English speaking lands violate the few rules expressed in the letter.
 

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Very few Christians in English speaking lands violate the few rules expressed in the letter.
Act 15:20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols,
The slaughter of a halal animal is called "zabihah" and there are certain guidelines to follow: Allah's (God's) name must be pronounced during slaughter. Offering food is one of the oldest and most common rituals in Buddhism and have you ever wondered why you find Buddha in restaurants.
from sexual immorality
We all know those who claim to be Christian and practice those things that are considered sexually immoral.
1 Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
And with current pressure on for Pastor to condone same sex by performing marriage ceremonies, sexual immorality is gaining ground. Sexual immorality is defined pretty clearly by Yeshua in
Matthew 5:28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.,
and we know many adulteries and adulterers within the Christian community going from the priests and pastors on down through the ranks.
from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
Like I said before, many Christians love a blood steak. No thought is given to the fact that we are suppose to not consume blood. Never is it preached from the pulpit that it is not ok. In fact, none of the above is preached in Churches. Acts 15 is only used as an excuse to void the law.

Every image of some biblical character is an idol.
 

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Seems to me that if you try hard you'll be able to find fault in everything, even in God himself.
 

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The slaughter of a halal animal is called "zabihah" and there are certain guidelines to follow: Allah's (God's) name must be pronounced during slaughter. Offering food is one of the oldest and most common rituals in Buddhism and have you ever wondered why you find Buddha in restaurants. We all know those who claim to be Christian and practice those things that are considered sexually immoral.And with current pressure on for Pastor to condone same sex by performing marriage ceremonies, sexual immorality is gaining ground. Sexual immorality is defined pretty clearly by Yeshua in and we know many adulteries and adulterers within the Christian community going from the priests and pastors on down through the ranks.Like I said before, many Christians love a blood steak. No thought is given to the fact that we are suppose to not consume blood. Never is it preached from the pulpit that it is not ok. In fact, none of the above is preached in Churches. Acts 15 is only used as an excuse to void the law.

Every image of some biblical character is an idol.
All sin is idolatry as it all places something against God's will over gods will.

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James 1:2-4 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
 
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