Shunning

[MoreCoffee]

You quoted an answer from Scripture. Is that not a good enough answer?

It is a statement. do you think it is a good one?

 

[Arsenios]

Shunning seems gentler than the Old Testament equivalent ... stoning.

... and, yes, I choose to confront and then have nothing to do with (shun) the goats, false teachers and wolves that enter the congregation to sow mischief and harm God’s people. (But only because stoning them is illegal).

I agree!

Why light a candle...???

When you can curse the darkness!!!

Lord have Mercy!


Arsenios

 

[MennoSota]

Shunning seems gentler than the Old Testament equivalent ... stoning.

... and, yes, I choose to confront and then have nothing to do with (shun) the goats, false teachers and wolves that enter the congregation to sow mischief and harm God’s people. (But only because stoning them is illegal).

I find a nice drop of LSD on a wafer will do wonders in regards to stoning...

 

[MennoSota]

I agree!

Why light a candle...???

When you can curse the darkness!!!

Lord have Mercy!


Arsenios

The Lord has no mercy on the unjust and the unjustified. But...he does have patience with the prodigal children who have run off to feed their own carnal desires.

 

[Arsenios]

The Lord has no mercy on the unjust and the unjustified. But...he does have patience with the prodigal children who have run off to feed their own carnal desires.

The unjust and unjustified are all prodigals...

The just and justified cannot be prodigals...


A.

 

[MennoSota]

The unjust and unjustified are all prodigals...

The just and justified cannot be prodigals...


A.

Nope, they aren't. They are not adopted and therefore have no inheritance. It is God who, by grace, adopts and calls the elect, his children. They are the sheep. Those whom God does not choose to graciously adopt are the goats who remain under the curse. Since they are not adopted, they are not prodigals...they are all the others outside of the family whom the Father does not look for because they are not his children.

 

[Jason76]

Well, it is the case that shunning is true Biblical teaching. However, though, much like in the verse about "The Woman in Adultery" - the people shunning could be in sin themselves. Churches often practice gossip, bully people - all sorts of bad things. Anyway, as with "The Woman in Adultery", the people cannot shun or do any other punishment without blatant hypocrisy.

Shunning seems gentler than the Old Testament equivalent ... stoning.

... and, yes, I choose to confront and then have nothing to do with (shun) the goats, false teachers and wolves that enter the congregation to sow mischief and harm God’s people. (But only because stoning them is illegal).

The people who would be stoned nowadays were probably - as mentioned above - abused so much - that the rebellion is highly justified.

I suppose past stoning was mainly dealing with a rough culture - kind of like a gang-banger one - where it was better for "God to sort out the dead.".

 

[pinacled]

Some Christian groups practise various forms of shunning for former members. Some people who are members of Christian groups will shun even if their group does not explicitly teach it. I've seen books and handbooks that mention this passage as the reason for shunning:

As I have written to you in an epistle: "Do not associate with fornicators," certainly not with the fornicators of this world, nor with the greedy, nor with robbers, nor with the servants of idolatry. Otherwise, you ought to depart from this world. But now I have written to you: do not associate with anyone who is called a brother and yet is a fornicator, or greedy, or a servant of idolatry, or a slanderer, or inebriated, or a robber. With such a one as this, do not even take food. For what have I to do with judging those who are outside? But do not even you yourselves judge those who are inside? For those who are outside, God will judge. But send this evil person away from yourselves. [1 Corinthians 5:9-13]​

What is your practise and what do you make of saint Paul's words in the passage?

If by shunning you mean sound doctrine involving a wolf/dog/Sorcerors being escorted by force if neccessary to the outer court of darkness.

The answer would be yes; permissible .

 

[MoreCoffee]

If by shunning you mean sound doctrine involving a wolf/dog/Sorcerors being escorted by force if neccessary to the outer court of darkness.

The answer would be yes; permissible .

If the alleged "wolf/dog/sorcerer" is one's son, daughter, brother, sister, mother, or father what then? And what does it mean to be a wolf, a dog, or a sorcerer?