Spiritual Eyes

[k0de]

Not everyone gets spiritual eyes. How important is to not merely read scriptures with fleshly eyes and not understand them?

Word from the master goes like this:

Luke 10: 23. Then he turned to his disciples and said privately, "Blessed are the eyes that see what you see.

The word blessed is a be·at·i·tude a supreme blessedness.

24. For I tell you that many prophets and kings wanted to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it."

Wow many didn't see it. I'll save the hearing part of the phrase for another thread.

Luke 11: 34. Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are healthy, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are unhealthy, your body also is full of darkness.

Again the word blessed is a be·at·i·tude a supreme blessedness. And again I'll save hearing for another thread.

Matthew 13: 16. But blessed are your eyes because they see,and your ears because they hear.

Again the word blessed is a be·at·i·tude a supreme blessedness. And again I'll save hearing for another thread.

But to every theologian on Christian Theology important words from the master.

Here it is:

Luke 24: 31. Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight.

32. They asked each other, "Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?"

Questions:

Is merely reading scriptures with fleshly eyes and not understanding them. Is there any profit unless the scriptures are open from the master?

And are these scriptures only applying to the people of the kingdom of God as per MAD?

What you say?

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[Lamb]

And are these scriptures only applying to the people of the kingdom of God as per MAD?

Maybe I'm not fully awake yet, but what is MAD?

 

[k0de]

Maybe I'm not fully awake yet, but what is MAD?

Mid Act's dispensation some new Chrisanity sect in 1900 century. Like you I'm not fully awake either just learning about their theology.

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[MennoSota]

One would have to accept the proposition of dispensationalism before one could even attempt to agree with MAD.
Since I view scripture as covenant based with salvation by grace through faith being the means of election from Adam on forward, I have nothing to say about a small variant view within the dispensational camp.

 

[NewCreation435]

These verses are talking about those who have the Holy Spirit and through the enabling of the Holy Spirit have their eyes open and are able to see spiritual things. Those of the world don't understand spiritual things. It says in 1 Corinthians that the words of the cross are foolishness to those who are perishing. This is because their understanding is darkened.
I don't know what MAD is either.

 

[Albion]

I still am wondering what a professed Agnostic has in mind with that opening post.

 

[psalms 91]

Dont know about MAD but it says we are to worship God in spirit and in truth so yes it is only with the Holy Spirit opening our understanding that we can get the spiritual meaning of what Jesus said for there is a natural meaning and a spiritual meaning

 

[tango]

I still am wondering what a professed Agnostic has in mind with that opening post.

The agnostic icon could just be a Tapatalk default.

 

[k0de]

These verses are talking about those who have the Holy Spirit and through the enabling of the Holy Spirit have their eyes open and are able to see spiritual things. Those of the world don't understand spiritual things. It says in 1 Corinthians that the words of the cross are foolishness to those who are perishing. This is because their understanding is darkened.
I don't know what MAD is either.

I like what you said here. I haven't heard that from anyone else about these scriptures.



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[k0de]

I still am wondering what a professed Agnostic has in mind with that opening post.

Professed Agnostic? Explain

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[k0de]

The agnostic icon could just be a Tapatalk default.

Ok yes I'm a Christian. Haven't been able to make changes on my profile through Tapatalk app. Away from my computer.

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[k0de]

One would have to accept the proposition of dispensationalism before one could even attempt to agree with MAD.
Since I view scripture as covenant based with salvation by grace through faith being the means of election from Adam on forward, I have nothing to say about a small variant view within the dispensational camp.

What is the difference between the two?

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[MennoSota]

What is the difference between the two?

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Dispensationalism says God works in his creation in different ways at different times. Each "age" has seen God act differently, especially with humanity. There are many groups who have broken down those "ages" into small time frames at their own arbitrary whim. My guess is that the Mid Acts theory of dispensationalism has declared something in the middle of the book of Acts where God started doing something differently.
Dispensationalism is less than 150 years old and stems from Arminianism and the camp meeting concepts that sprung out of Charles Finney and other radical Arminians/Pelagians.

 

[k0de]

Dispensationalism says God works in his creation in different ways at different times. Each "age" has seen God act differently, especially with humanity. There are many groups who have broken down those "ages" into small time frames at their own arbitrary whim. My guess is that the Mid Acts theory of dispensationalism has declared something in the middle of the book of Acts where God started doing something differently.
Dispensationalism is less than 150 years old and stems from Arminianism and the camp meeting concepts that sprung out of Charles Finney and other radical Arminians/Pelagians.

Thank you.

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[pinacled]

Not everyone gets spiritual eyes. How important is to not merely read scriptures with fleshly eyes and not understand them?

Word from the master goes like this:

Luke 10: 23. Then he turned to his disciples and said privately, "Blessed are the eyes that see what you see.

The word blessed is a be·at·i·tude a supreme blessedness.

24. For I tell you that many prophets and kings wanted to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it."

Wow many didn't see it. I'll save the hearing part of the phrase for another thread.

Luke 11: 34. Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are healthy, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are unhealthy, your body also is full of darkness.

Again the word blessed is a be·at·i·tude a supreme blessedness. And again I'll save hearing for another thread.

Matthew 13: 16. But blessed are your eyes because they see,and your ears because they hear.

Again the word blessed is a be·at·i·tude a supreme blessedness. And again I'll save hearing for another thread.

But to every theologian on Christian Theology important words from the master.

Here it is:

Luke 24: 31. Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight.

32. They asked each other, "Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?"

Questions:

Is merely reading scriptures with fleshly eyes and not understanding them. Is there any profit unless the scriptures are open from the master?

And are these scriptures only applying to the people of the kingdom of God as per MAD?

What you say?

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There's nothing like kings and priest with an inheritance of keen eyes on the Heart.
They will only listen to the 7 thunders and the Holy One. who holds 7 stars in His hand.

And with charity of Fire the altars are lit with Living Water.

Ah, the comforting power of the Ruach hakodosh and voice of many waters roaring The Royal Torah to all nations.

Thankyou