Water on Mars

[Vanilla]

http://www.space.com/17048-water-on-mars.html

Oh the scifi feels. What can you say about this news? What if there really were life on Mars?

Also, there's http://www.mars-one.com/ would you guys be willing to settle there? eep:

 

[MarkFL]

Yes, I heard something about that the other day...exciting news.

There is a lot of evidence that there used to be oceans on Mars, but Mars lost its magnetic field due to internal cooling and without a magnetic field its atmosphere was stripped away by the solar wind. I'm sure many of you are aware that there is speculation that life on Earth was seeded by a fragment of rock dislodged from Mars by an impact and landing on Earth.

From what I have read, the best hope for life outside of Earth in our solar system is Jupiter's moon Europa, which is thought to have a vast global ocean beneath it's outer crust of ice. Because of internal friction caused by tidal forces resulting from Jupiter's gravitational field, there is no shortage of internal heat either. And we know that life doesn't need sunlight to exist, because we have found such life here on Earth near deep-sea vents.

 

[popsthebuilder]

I think life was on mars at one time. I think it anialated itself through war brought about by greed and hunger for domination and manipulation. Just an opinion. Not backed by any credible source.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[MoreCoffee]

http://www.space.com/17048-water-on-mars.html

Oh the scifi feels. What can you say about this news? What if there really were life on Mars?

Also, there's http://www.mars-one.com/ would you guys be willing to settle there? eep:

I like it here on Earth

 

[MarkFL]

If the terraforming of Mars had been successfully completed, then I would like to visit Mars, but I wouldn't want to live there permanently.

 

[MoreCoffee]

If the terraforming of Mars had been successfully completed, then I would like to visit Mars, but I wouldn't want to live there permanently.

It would be good for setting high-jump records after the terra-forming

 

[MarkFL]

It would be good for setting high-jump records after the terra-forming

LOL! But the moon-dwellers would beat us.

 

[MoreCoffee]

LOL! But the moon-dwellers would beat us.

Yes, but their dwelling is unlikely to be terra-formed as easily ... or maybe not ... where would all the 'air' comes from?

 

[MarkFL]

Yes, but their dwelling is unlikely to be terra-formed as easily ... or maybe not ... where would all the 'air' comes from?

They would likely live under great pressurized domes, I would think.

 

[MoreCoffee]

They would likely live under great pressurized domes, I would think.

Then the Martians might win an 'open air' competition

 

[Alithis]

no ones been there in the past and no ones terraforming anything.

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. Psalm 115:16

 

[MoreCoffee]

no ones been there in the past and no ones terraforming anything.

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. Psalm 115:16

Well there is that, but don't be a spoil sport about our flights of fancy!

 

[MarkFL]

no ones been there in the past and no ones terraforming anything.

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. Psalm 115:16

So you would also deny that men have walked on the moon?

 

[Alithis]

So you would also deny that men have walked on the moon?

did i say that ?..read carefully what i said -its only what..?12 words?

 

[MarkFL]

did i say that ?..read carefully what i said -its only what..?12 words?

Do you not consider the Moon to be a part of the heavens? You have likely forgotten, but you also posted a verse after your 12 words, that imply the heavens are off limits to us. See, I read what you posted more thoroughly than you did. :smashfreakb:

 

[Alithis]

Do you not consider the Moon to be a part of the heavens? You have likely forgotten, but you also posted a verse after your 12 words, that imply the heavens are off limits to us. See, I read what you posted more thoroughly than you did. :smashfreakb:

odd , i never interpreted the heavens as off limits ... just that they are not for us .might be why we can't breath and it is the single most hostile environment there is to us short of living inside an active volcano.

:smashfreakb:..<--- i like that haha ,,

 

[Tigger]

Our God is an amazing creator and we are but scratching the surface of that creation.

 

[psalms 91]

Yes, there is much we still do not know

 

[Josiah]

Yes, I heard something about that the other day...exciting news.

There is a lot of evidence that there used to be oceans on Mars, but Mars lost its magnetic field due to internal cooling and without a magnetic field its atmosphere was stripped away by the solar wind.

I'm sure many of you are aware that there is speculation that life on Earth was seeded by a fragment of rock dislodged from Mars by an impact and landing on Earth.

From what I have read, the best hope for life outside of Earth in our solar system is Jupiter's moon Europa, which is thought to have a vast global ocean beneath it's outer crust of ice. Because of internal friction caused by tidal forces resulting from Jupiter's gravitational field, there is no shortage of internal heat either. And we know that life doesn't need sunlight to exist, because we have found such life here on Earth near deep-sea vents.

Good stuff...

I make a solid point of NOT discussing science stuff at sites like this, but I'll just add that to ME this "discovery" is not terribly significant: something more for the press than anything.

My degree is NOT in biology and so I have NO credentials whatsoever here..... but I PERSONALLY am of the OPINION (because I have NOTHING to support it) that "life" (see note below) probably does exist on Mars (which to ME is reason to perhaps NOT make a return trip to such).... long ago, it seems to have been rather "Earth-like" and I suspect life may have evolved there, too. But the planet largely "died" (It seems not completely). IMO, this does not mean that life terminated - but it MAY mean that "life found a way" to adapt to the changing planet. There may be very elementary life - perhaps very different than anything on Earth - probably enough underground to not be impacted by the solar radiation; in other words, we're unlikely to find anything on the surface.

Now, "life" is a vague thing. My sister, who has a Ph.D. in biology, is quick to point out that there is no standard definition of life (of what is or is not "life").... and that in recent history, we've become aware that "life" can be very weird - very UNLIKE the sort of thing we thought "life" was 50 years ago. Who knows what "life" may look like on Mars or Europa - or even possibly Venus. We should not expect life that looks just like a German with pointed ears and the ability to do mind melts.

When "life" suddenly appears where it didn't - interacting with the existing ecology - disaster can result! We have horror stories just on our own planet, with earthly life. Who can possibly even IMAGE what would happen if alien life suddenly entered the Earth's biological ecology.... Can we prevent this, absolutely? Of course, it's POSSIBLE this has already happened - a lot, quite naturally (and we're still here) but there are some big (and very, very potentially dangerous) question marks here.


I'll exit now....



- Josiah

 

[tango]

There most definitely is water on Mars. If this isn't proof I don't know what is: