Saved from what?

[popsthebuilder]

That doesn't mean you where never saved. It means you took it for granted.

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[Hammster]

Why are you so interested in word games. You can loose your salvation.

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What is someone saved from that loses their salvation?

 

[popsthebuilder]

What is someone saved from that loses their salvation?

Nothing.

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[Hammster]

That doesn't mean you where never saved. It means you took it for granted.

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Not relevant.

 

[Hammster]

Nothing.

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Thanks.

 

[Alithis]

I'm not interested in why they may have "lost" their salvation. My point is that someone cannot be saved from hell if they end up there. Not if God is truly omniscient.

if a man is puled from the ocean ..he is saved from drowning ..if he jumps off the boat he is then doomed to drown again ..
if a man is saved from his sin and the death it brings and he then jumps back into his sin.. he will suffer the second death .

the doctrine that once saved you will always be saved no matter what you do is nothing more then a teaching easy on the ears asked for by those who have no desire to repent of their sin because they love their sin . we are ever being saved as we walk in obedience as we stay on the boat .. the ark that is the lord Jesus -there ,our salvation is as sure as the day we received it .. get off the boat to your own peril but do not teach falsely that you can get off the boat and remain saved .it simply is not the truth of the Gospel .albeit it SOUNDS so NICE .

 

[Hammster]

If a man is saved from the ocean, and then thrown back in, he still drowns.

 

[Hammster]

if a man is puled from the ocean ..he is saved from drowning ..if he jumps off the boat he is then doomed to drown again ..
if a man is saved from his sin and the death it brings and he then jumps back into his sin.. he will suffer the second death .

the doctrine that once saved you will always be saved no matter what you do is nothing more then a teaching easy on the ears asked for by those who have no desire to repent of their sin because they love their sin . we are ever being saved as we walk in obedience as we stay on the boat .. the ark that is the lord Jesus -there ,our salvation is as sure as the day we received it .. get off the boat to your own peril but do not teach falsely that you can get off the boat and remain saved .it simply is not the truth of the Gospel .albeit it SOUNDS so NICE .

And I've never taught that.

 

[popsthebuilder]

So what is the point of the op then?

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[popsthebuilder]

Are you trying to insinuate that go's isn't omnipotent, or omniscient? Cus that's not too cool.

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[popsthebuilder]

God, not go's

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[Hammster]

Are you trying to insinuate that go's isn't omnipotent, or omniscient? Cus that's not too cool.

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The OP is straight forward. Perhaps you should read it again.

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

If a man is saved from the ocean, and then thrown back in, he still drowns.

Now that wasn't so hard was it?
If a man is saved from Hell, then (through unrepentant sin) is thrown back in, he still burns.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Oh. Yeah free will is a real thing. You never answered me though. I can't say that free will isn't real though. It's really obvious that we have the power to make our own desisions.

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[Hammster]

Now that wasn't so hard was it?
If a man is saved from Hell, then (through unrepentant sin) is thrown back in, he still burns.

Then in that analogy, we are in hell when we are saved?

 

[Hammster]

Oh. Yeah free will is a real thing. You never answered me though. I can't say that free will isn't real though. It's really obvious that we have the power to make our own desisions.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

You may start a thread on free will if you'd like. That's not the topic of this thread.

 

[psalms 91]

However it does pertain to what you are trying so hard to seperate from it

 

[Hammster]

However it does pertain to what you are trying so hard to seperate from it

Not at all. The issue isn't why someone might "lose" their salvation. The issue is what were they actually saved from if they end up in hell.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Not at all. The issue isn't why someone might "lose" their salvation. The issue is what were they actually saved from if they end up in hell.

Frankly it is an unintelligible, partial question that has no relevance in reality at all.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

 

[Hammster]

Frankly it is an unintelligible, partial question that has no relevance in reality at all.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

It's possible to understand if you take the time and step away from your traditions.