Can your bible make you into a bigot and a 'jerk'?

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I must add to a condition that has occurred due to the recent marriage laws.

Many Churches will teach that you must obey the law of the land.

They will quote render unto Cesasar ...

I find this a bit amusing due to religious zelots being judgemental on others for breaking the law of the he land.

This circumstance is a result of legalism,and creates hypocrisy.

I am of the opinion that it is not really very hard to read and apply scripture in such a way that one need never become a bigot or act unjustly and cruelly towards others. The Westminster Confession of faith says it kind of pithily this way "yielding obedience to the commands, trembling at the threatenings, and embracing the promises of God for this life, and that which is to come." Those words are part of the chapter on saving faith and describe what such a faith does in response to the revealed will of God. If reading holy scripture changes us internally by drawing us to obey its commands, tremble at its threads, and embrace its promises then we will not be cruel to others because a commandment appears to justify a cruel act instead we'd yield obedience to the command in how we live and what we do rather than punishing, persecuting, or otherwise seeking to impose our 'reading' of the commandment on them.

 

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I must add to a condition that has occurred due to the recent marriage laws.

Many Churches will teach that you must obey the law of the land.

They will quote render unto Cesasar ...

I find this a bit amusing due to religious zelots being judgemental on others for breaking the law of the he land.

This circumstance is a result of legalism,and creates hypocrisy.

In our church, we teach that we are to obey the law of the land unless it goes against God. If the law of the land was that you had one day where you could steal anything, would you still do it. God tells we are not to steal. The same would apply to this.

 

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When the law is perverted then a Christyian does not need to obey as it goes against what God said.

 

[MoreCoffee]

In our church, we teach that we are to obey the law of the land unless it goes against God. If the law of the land was that you had one day where you could steal anything, would you still do it. God tells we are not to steal. The same would apply to this.

When the law is perverted then a Christyian does not need to obey as it goes against what God said.

I believe that it is important for individual christians not to take the lessons of the bible and apply them to other people. Even if other people sin and do wrong let the legitimate authorities deal with it unless it is an emergency - like stopping somebody harming yourself, your family, or another person when no authority is available to stop them. The new covenant does not appoint individual christians as police or executioner in moral matters and especially not in theological matters.

 

[psalms 91]

I believe that it is important for individual christians not to take the lessons of the bible and apply them to other people. Even if other people sin and do wrong let the legitimate authorities deal with it unless it is an emergency - like stopping somebody harming yourself, your family, or another person when no authority is available to stop them. The new covenant does not appoint individual christians as police or executioner in moral matters and especially not in theological matters.

However it does tell us to judge within the church and I dont know about you but I will not go against what I believe to be true to be PC or legal.

 

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However it does tell us to judge within the church and I don't know about you but I will not go against what I believe to be true to be PC or legal.

I think that holy scripture tells the church's leaders to exercise authority and to deal with notorious offenders and serious offences but the faithful who do not hold an office of authority are not called to act against others hastily and by their own authority. And for people outside of the church isn't holy scripture clear in saying that God will judge?

 

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I think that holy scripture tells the church's leaders to exercise authority and to deal with notorious offenders and serious offences but the faithful who do not hold an office of authority are not called to act against others hastily and by their own authority. And for people outside of the church isn't holy scripture clear in saying that God will judge?

Exactly which is why I said within the church, however we should not sit back idly and allow or accept that which we know to be wrong. As for judging I think Paul had a lot to say on that

 

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Exactly which is why I said within the church, however we should not sit back idly and allow or accept that which we know to be wrong. As for judging I think Paul had a lot to say on that

No 'sitting by' is implied in not acting on one's own authority as if the church were a vigilante group.

 

[psalms 91]

No 'sitting by' is implied in not acting on one's own authority as if the church were a vigilante group.

Do you mena like abortion, or same sex marriage? We should just sit back and by our silence imply consent to it? I think not nor do I think Jesus ever intended for us to do that. Why would He upset the tables of the moneychangers if we are to be silent on what is wrong? Why would He tell the woman and others to go and sin no more, was He judging?

 

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Do you mena like abortion, or same sex marriage? We should just sit back and by our silence imply consent to it? I think not nor do I think Jesus ever intended for us to do that. Why would He upset the tables of the moneychangers if we are to be silent on what is wrong? Why would He tell the woman and others to go and sin no more, was He judging?

Obviously one can say whatever one pleases and protestant however one likes provided that all is done within the law. And equally clearly people can ignore the protests and refuse to listen to what is said.