Can we start calling things evil?

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Not sure if the is the place to post this so if not, please move.

We see so much in the news about people shooting people and most recently the shooting in Charlotte. One of the first things I see is people wondering if the person was mentally ill. Now, anyone who goes off and kills others would be mentally ill at that moment. What I don't understand is why we can't refer to these people as evil and sinful with no respect for human life. This recent one got into a group and then decided blacks have no right to live. In my opinion, people who shoot others, especially these premeditated ones don't have respect for human life and don't put much of a value on others. The root cause of all of it is sin and pure evilness.

I am not questioning that there are those who may have mental health issues, but why does that have to always be the first thought. Many more people with those issues do not go around killing others. Because of this, I got to thinking that the issue is much deeper.
 

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What you say is true and as to why I dont know. I wonder why mental illness isnt attributed to evil spirits as it should be but I guess to many would take offense at the truth.
 

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...I wonder why mental illness isnt attributed to evil spirits as it should be but I guess to many would take offense at the truth.

If that's the truth, then there must be evidence to lead us to claim this as fact...what evidence is there that mental evidence is caused by malevolent spirits? If you believe this by faith, then that's fine, but we cannot parade beliefs based on faith as fact. :D

Neurologists have much more compelling evidence that it is a problem of brain chemistry, specifically neurotransmitters. When brain chemistry is altered via chemical therapy, vast improvement in mental health is often the result. Or when we take an otherwise healthy brain and bombard it with chemicals such as heroine that affect neurotransmitters, then unfavorable changes in mental health can occur.
 

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I saw one of the interviews of the killer's friend and he was black. So, this is really deeper like you said.
 

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At one time, mental illness was attributed to evil spirits. Like MarkFL stated, science has shown that it is because of brain chemistry. Because of the fall of man (in Adam), we have all these issues.

People like this guy have listened to whatever lies Satan has been telling him and went down that path of doing what is evil. It is really amazing how the members of this church responded and have extended forgiveness. This does not mean this person gets away with it. He still has to suffer the consequences of committing this evil act. I also feel that because of the way the church and community responded, it has been a time of mourning, forgiveness and peace.
 

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Do people really no what causes the chemical imbalance? Who is to say that an increased pattern of negative or evil thought did not cause the deterioration in the chemicals of the brain?

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Do people really know what causes the chemical imbalance? Who is to say that an increased pattern of negative or evil thought did not cause the deterioration in the chemicals of the brain?

I would say the imbalance is the cause of the deterioration of thought, rather than the deterioration of thought causing the imbalance...but then I am not a neuroscientist.

You raise an excellent point in that there is a great lack of understanding of chemical imbalances, and in fact you are hinting at another emerging hypothesis. It should be noted that the pharmaceutical behemoths have a real vested interest in promoting the chemical imbalance theory so that their multi-billion dollar industries can thrive.

Real science needs to be done to gain a better understanding. :D
 

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Science wont be able to prove evil regardless of if evil caused an imbalance or an imbalance caused evil. Really they are one and the same. It is possible that negative thoughts slowly cause an imbalance which could in turn cause a further downward spiral and a snowball effect until a conclusion is inevitable.

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Science is the only means we have for determining the truth about physiology and its impact on behavior, however we decide to label different types of behavior.
 

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Not sure if the is the place to post this so if not, please move.

We see so much in the news about people shooting people and most recently the shooting in Charlotte. One of the first things I see is people wondering if the person was mentally ill. Now, anyone who goes off and kills others would be mentally ill at that moment. What I don't understand is why we can't refer to these people as evil and sinful with no respect for human life. This recent one got into a group and then decided blacks have no right to live. In my opinion, people who shoot others, especially these premeditated ones don't have respect for human life and don't put much of a value on others. The root cause of all of it is sin and pure evilness.

I am not questioning that there are those who may have mental health issues, but why does that have to always be the first thought. Many more people with those issues do not go around killing others. Because of this, I got to thinking that the issue is much deeper.
I agree that most with mental illness don't go around killing and committing violent crimes, more of the mentally ill are actually hiding inside from the pressures of society. I don't know exactly what pure evil is but it sure was an evil act to kill those people in Charlotte.
 

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If that's the truth, then there must be evidence to lead us to claim this as fact...what evidence is there that mental evidence is caused by malevolent spirits? If you believe this by faith, then that's fine, but we cannot parade beliefs based on faith as fact. :D

Neurologists have much more compelling evidence that it is a problem of brain chemistry, specifically neurotransmitters. When brain chemistry is altered via chemical therapy, vast improvement in mental health is often the result. Or when we take an otherwise healthy brain and bombard it with chemicals such as heroine that affect neurotransmitters, then unfavorable changes in mental health can occur.
I agree but are not doctors put here to help us until we can be healed by the healer?
 
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