Is there a thing that can be done that will not be forgiven? If so what is it?

[popsthebuilder]

Do you have a point or did you just intend to quote a Bible version that has a distinct lithsp...

I actually had a lot more and also some transliterated Hebrew showing that GOD actually merciful.

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

How do you say grace is of GOD is you believe only a very small amount of total souls will ever be saved?

Why preach if you believe none can choose to follow?




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[popsthebuilder]

God is all knowing.
The elect are exactly the number God chose before the foundation of the world.
The purpose of the elect is to show God’s grace and sovereignty.
The Bible says the angels long to understand grace because God provides no grace to the fallen angels. For them their doom is certain.
I notice you once again create a red herring to avoid your dilemma.

"The elect are exactly the number God chose before the foundation of the world.

The purpose of the elect is to show God’s grace and sovereignty. "



Outstanding. Don't worry about the number of elect if you don't know it. The fact that you mentioned their purpose is great....I feel better now....for now....

And who does GOD want to know about HIS grace and sovereignty?

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[MennoSota]

I actually had a lot more and also some transliterated Hebrew showing that GOD actually merciful.

For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

How do you say grace is of GOD is you believe only a very small amount of total souls will ever be saved?

Why preach if you believe none can choose to follow?




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The last question is easy. God says so.
Grace is God giving to us what we don't deserve. It is unmerited favor.
If God were obligated to give humans what they don't deserve, it would not be grace. Grace is gracious because God chooses to whom He will be gracious. If God were obligated to be gracious to anyone who chose Him, then it would be forced upon Him by someone greater than Himself. The one choosing would have the power and authority and God would merely be a subservient genie. This, by the way, is the god you have created for yourself when you demand your free-will.

 

[MennoSota]

"The elect are exactly the number God chose before the foundation of the world.

The purpose of the elect is to show God’s grace and sovereignty. "



Outstanding. Don't worry about the number of elect if you don't know it. The fact that you mentioned their purpose is great....I feel better now....for now....

And who does GOD want to know about HIS grace and sovereignty?

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All can know about His grace and sovereignty. Only those whom God chooses will receive His grace. The rest consider it foolishness. Why is this? Because only God's sheep hear His voice and respond. The rest cannot hear and they cannot see. They live in darkness and never come in to God's glorious light.
You seem confused by this. Does what I share sound foolish to you?

 

[popsthebuilder]

The last question is easy. God says so.
Grace is God giving to us what we don't deserve. It is unmerited favor.
If God were obligated to give humans what they don't deserve, it would not be grace. Grace is gracious because God chooses to whom He will be gracious. If God were obligated to be gracious to anyone who chose Him, then it would be forced upon Him by someone greater than Himself. The one choosing would have the power and authority and God would merely be a subservient genie. This, by the way, is the god you have created for yourself when you demand your free-will.

I demand nothing. Free will is observable.

The rest of your statement didn't make sense to me.

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[popsthebuilder]

All can know about His grace and sovereignty. Only those whom God chooses will receive His grace. The rest consider it foolishness. Why is this? Because only God's sheep hear His voice and respond. The rest cannot hear and they cannot see. They live in darkness and never come in to God's glorious light.
You seem confused by this. Does what I share sound foolish to you?

Not at all.

Does all sins of man being forgiven sound foolish to you?

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[MennoSota]

I demand nothing. Free will is observable.

The rest of your statement didn't make sense to me.

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Your ignorance causes you to imagine you observe free-will.
If you had free-will, you would always run from God.

 

[MennoSota]

Not at all.

Does all sins of man being forgiven sound foolish to you?

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It seems you are a universalist, in which case you should enjoy talking with Hitler, Mao, Stalin and PolPot in heaven.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Your ignorance causes you to imagine you observe free-will.
If you had free-will, you would always run from God.

That makes since seeing as how I called on GOD and GOD did answer.

Not that I am saying it wasn't always GOD'S will for such to happen or that HE didn't know exactly when and how and why it would happen.

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[popsthebuilder]

It seems you are a universalist, in which case you should enjoy talking with Hitler, Mao, Stalin and PolPot in heaven.

So that's a yes....sad

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[JPPT1974]

God does forgive no matter what. Big or small. He gives us grace big or small of our mistakes. He is perfect and eternal. Leave it at that.

 

[MennoSota]

That makes since seeing as how I called on GOD and GOD did answer.

Not that I am saying it wasn't always GOD'S will for such to happen or that HE didn't know exactly when and how and why it would happen.

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According to the Bible, God called on you and you answered. I think I will take God's word over yours.

 

[MennoSota]

So that's a yes....sad

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You're sad that you are a universalist?

 

[MennoSota]

God does forgive no matter what. Big or small. He gives us grace big or small of our mistakes. He is perfect and eternal. Leave it at that.

Indeed, God chooses according to His will and He is no respecter of persons. He chooses big or small and he always chooses corrupt sinners to redeem. That's why it's grace.

 

[popsthebuilder]

According to the Bible, God called on you and you answered. I think I will take God's word over yours.

So you are saying I ran from GOD at some previous point? When I didn't know HIM?

please explain

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[popsthebuilder]

You're sad that you are a universalist?

So you see how you are accusing me without understanding my faith or doctrine?

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[popsthebuilder]

Indeed, God chooses according to His will and He is no respecter of persons. He chooses big or small and he always chooses corrupt sinners to redeem. That's why it's grace.

I would like very much to speak (or rather listen) about the duty of the elect of GOD please(with scriptural reference of course).

And for my own clarification; though the elect are for ordained to do GOD'S Will; that doesn't mean that all others are damned by default to you personally (would actually love scripture for this too if indeed your stance).



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[MennoSota]

So you are saying I ran from GOD at some previous point? When I didn't know HIM?

please explain

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What does the Bible say?
"No one seeks God, not even one."
I'm saying you couldn't even hear God until He called you and chose you.
Your failure to not know God, never stopped God from knowing you and choosing you despite your wicked heart. That's grace. Unmerited favor. God giving you what you don't deserve.

 

[MennoSota]

So you see how you are accusing me without understanding my faith or doctrine?

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I am simply hearing what you are saying.
Are you a universalist? You said that all sins of man are forgiven.

 

[MennoSota]

I would like very much to speak (or rather listen) about the duty of the elect of GOD please(with scriptural reference of course).

And for my own clarification; though the elect are for ordained to do GOD'S Will; that doesn't mean that all others are damned by default to you personally (would actually love scripture for this too if indeed your stance).



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What confuses you about "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"? What don't you understand when God says "you were dead in your trespasses and sins"? How much more do you need before you believe God?