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Maybe they gave God permission to heal them but forgot to give God permission to abolish sickness in the first place. One or other of them was saying that God can only do what we permit him to do, so maybe God is sitting in heaven wringing his hands wishing we'd just get with it.

Poor God. It must stink to have all that power and be subject to man.


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All I had to see was the words televangelist, and ridiculous. Nuff said. I'll take your word for it. Any claiming to teach the word yet take a profit past living expenses or reasonable wages is a liar and an idol worshipper. We are to give. If one acquires monetary abundance they are to give the excess. The fact that they live in needless material luxury is a testament to their greedy bad works. Damn them.

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Poor God. It must stink to have all that power and be subject to man.


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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.
 

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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.

He was the chief among sinners, after all.


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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.

When you crossthread a bolt it becomes useless
 

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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.

There's that. And, why in the heck are these WoF folks getting sick in the first place?


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Because a lack of faith is contagious.
 

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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.

There's that. And, why in the heck are these WoF folks getting sick in the first place?


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Why did Paul Crouch die at age 79? That's a bit off from 120.


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That statement is the coldest one I have ever read in your post.
Why don't you dig him up and ask him?
 

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That statement...

I recommend gathering all your thoughts together first, and then respond to the relevant quotes all in the same post (using the multi-quote feature), rather than posting multiple times in a row, and accumulating quotes from previous posts to which you are no longer responding. :)
 

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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.

There's that. And, why in the heck are these WoF folks getting sick in the first place?


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Why did Paul Crouch die at age 79? That's a bit off from 120.


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Oooh! Oooh! Pick me!

I wonder how "Lie #1 - Clearly, it’s healing, not sickness, that glorifies God!" fits in with "Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

If only Gloria Copeland could have lived 2000-odd years ago so she could have put that half-wit Paul straight on a few things.
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[2 Corinthians: 13. 3. Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you. 4. For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. 5. Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 6. But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. 7. Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates. 8. For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. 9. For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection. -

If you can read this thank a teacher.
If you will understand it thank God.

It was the oh pick me that brought teachers to mind.
 

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Cross-threading a little here, but maybe Paul forgot to give God permission to heal Timothy? That would explain a lot of things.

There's that. And, why in the heck are these WoF folks getting sick in the first place?


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Why did Paul Crouch die at age 79? That's a bit off from 120.


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Oooh! Oooh! Pick me!

I wonder how "Lie #1 - Clearly, it’s healing, not sickness, that glorifies God!" fits in with "Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me."

If only Gloria Copeland could have lived 2000-odd years ago so she could have put that half-wit Paul straight on a few things.

I recommend gathering all your thoughts together first, and then respond to the relevant quotes all in the same post (using the multi-quote feature), rather than posting multiple times in a row, and accumulating quotes from previous posts to which you are no longer responding. :)

Well thank you.
 

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Because a lack of faith is contagious.

So they get sick because they lose their salvation?


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Well thank you.

Self-editing helps, too. That way, the proper person is credited with the quote. And we can tell where their quote ends and your statement begins.


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Because a lack of faith is contagious.

Really?

If your faith can't cope with people following the Scriptural call to test all things, how does it cope in the real world where people join in unison to declare that God doesn't even exist?

Although if a lack of faith truly is contagious maybe that's what went wrong for poor Timothy.
 

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When you crossthread a bolt it becomes useless

... except we're not talking about bolts here.

If you hit a Ming vase with a club hammer it becomes useless but that means nothing without context. Club hammers are useful tools, they just aren't ideally suited for moving Ming vases.

Once again you make a point that isn't relevant to the discussion.
 

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Page 34 and I'm lost here. What are we talking about??? :dunno:
 

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Hello, I'm new here and, mostly, new to Christianity. I'm searching for examples of false teachers to avoid along with the specific examples that show them to be a false teacher. I desire to read and understand the Bible and to live according to it's teachings, but I am afraid of being led astray by false teachers.

I welcome the experience and knowledge of other Christians in order to help my understanding and/or guidance in where to start, which is why this topic sparked my interest. But, as a beginner and eager student, I would like more examples of teachers/teachings to avoid.

I know my answer lies in my reading the Bible and in understanding it, but I would eventually like to join a church in order to grow as a Christian, but am afraid of being misled by false teachers or joining the "wrong" church. I have always wondered why and have been confused as to why there are so many denominations; which one(s) is/are correct, which should I join to help my growth...? So I have mainly been inclined to just keep to myself in my growth as a Christian...but I don't think this is the right way; it's really not going anywhere and I need some help.

So, examples of false teachers and the specific examples of what makes them false teachers would be very helpful to me and much appreciated. :)


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I can't think of any big name television preachers that I am fond of.
 

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I watch Joyce Meyer. She preaches using the Bible and uses Scripture. She seems to be on the up and up.
 
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