"Holy Laughter"

[Josiah]

Since this is not nearly as well known as "Speaking in Tongues", you might benefit from reading the information below before commenting....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_laughter

https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-laughter.html



Here's a video....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKK1PpRbSRw



Have you heard of this? Seen this? Done this?

What do you make of this?

This happens in close association with "Tongues". Is it related? Similar? Why/why not?

Is this a "Gift of the Holy Spirit" or something else?

How might your congregation respond to such as a part of your worship?



- Josiah

 

[Imalive]

Yes that was funny. I got totally healed from stuff from the past. I remember once when a guy and I had that in church in the Toronto time some ppl stood above us and I guess they thought we were not there or something while laying on the floor. They said: only unstable people need this. We don't. That's funny, come to think of it.
Good times when I spent hours a day in prayer and was totally in love w Jesus. I miss it.

 

[Josiah]

Just to be clear: I don't AT ALL mean this to be critical or funny or to "make fun" of anything......

 

[Imalive]

Just to be clear: I don't AT ALL mean this to be critical or funny or to "make fun" of anything......

LOL well in this case that doesnt matter cuz in Toronto we did that too. It was just no sight and you couldn't help join. Yes I've done it. I've been to Toronto and such meetings. We had it in our church in that time mainly w weekends where ppl could heal up from stuff from the past and meet God. Not during the meeting, but afterwards, in the break during dinner. So much happened and it was all so serious and then we couldnt stop laughing. And once at Ellel where a guy told me my twin brother died and they were so serious and anti holy laughter, but my mom and I just couldnt stop so we ran out during a real serious lesson and laughed outside in the woods. God just healed me up.
They said in Toronto you shouldnt pray in tongues but only receive, which I still find weird.
Now I don't go to such meetings anymore cause I don't know what to trust anymore, but I do know God just healed me up from stuff then and I got more on fire, pray, read the Bible, tell ppl about Jesus.
But ppl do it theirselves too and if nothing else happens and ppl are only having fun, what's the use? My ex went to a WOF Bible school and they had fire nights for christians to laugh and have fun and act weird and he said: this is only for christians anyway, why dont we instead go out to the marketplace and preach the gospel? and they did that.
I have it seen it in a healing meeting in Holland with a bunch of depressed ppl who came for healing and all couldn't stop laughing. That was awesome. It's not a gift of the Spirit, if God causes it it's just that He heals your emotions or He heals you from trauma or depression. The joy of the Lord is my strength. God Himself spins around for joy. Don't know the text.

 

[Albion]

I am thinking now of that other thread about theology in which you said that some people just leave books like Corinthians out of their consideration (and posts) if they oppose the idea of the gifts being for our times, etc.

With that in mind, I have to think that if *Holy Laughter* were really a divine gift, it would have been mentioned in Corinthians along with the other gifts of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Imalive]

I am thinking now of that other thread about theology in which you said that some people just leave books like Corinthians out of their consideration (and posts) if they oppose the idea of the gifts being for our times, etc.

With that in mind, I have to think that if *Holy Laughter* were really a divine gift, it would have been mentioned in Corinthians along with the other gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Yes it's not one of the gifts. It's just emotions being healed I think or just the joy of the Lord or just ppl laughing.

 

[Lamb]

I see no scriptural basis for "holy laughter" but I have found a couple verses that were distorted to try to prove their case. It's just not in the bible.

 

[NewCreation435]

I think it is a form of hysteria and would leave a place if people were acting like that. I see nothing in the Bible that promotes it.

 

[Imalive]

I see no scriptural basis for "holy laughter" but I have found a couple verses that were distorted to try to prove their case. It's just not in the bible.

Yeah they thought the apostles were drunk LOL but they use that text to say everything goes. Some went too far. One preacher was just laying on the floor on the street here after a meeting and they put a bottle of wine next to him and made a pic. That's just mocking. And always this 'I'm drunk in the Spirit', why say drunk?? Those ppl who said that about the apostles were mocking. Why on earth do it too and call being filled w the Holy Spirit being drunk? I haven't followed it for years anymore, but I saw one weirdo say he was high on the Holy Spirit, like taking a joint. Ehmm nope. I believe you can experience joy of the Lord, but a movie like Josiah posted, it's weird. And Rodney said to that Bam guy w the tattoos that he shouldn't tell ppl that angel visited him, no, I stay away from that stuff. Toronto had great stuff, God really touched me, but Derek Prince said there was mixture and they didnt test anything. I never saw barking dogs there but lately I saw it on a video from the beginning and it made me think of that text, although it doesn't make sense, cause they did bark.

His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.

 

[MoreCoffee]

People can do whatever they please in this matter. It isn't something I do nor approve of doing but since they are free to do as they please with their own laughter they can laugh all they like. If they say God made me do it I don't think that God did. But they say all sorts of things nowadays so what does it matter in the end. If some Charismatics and Pentecostals say they are having a "third wave of the Spirit" okay. I do not think their laughing is anything from the Spirit of God but nobody can stop them from claiming that it is.

 

[Imalive]

If God heals you from traumatic stuff you can get filled w His joy. But everyone just hysterically laughing all the time and all the weird stuff going on in those churches nowadays, I can't imagine Jesus and the apostles doing that. One service I went to was just plain New Age, I dont think he even mentioned Jesus and all those ppl were like: halleluja!
They could have been full of joy on pentecost, but I don't think Peter was saying: look John a glory cloud! Lets film it and have fun! oh wait I'm going to heaven w my angel friend have a roller coaster ride. Ah he left some feathers. That is charismania. If even leaders don't test anything the flesh and the devil have free play. Also with tongues. That guy that tested them said ppl ask and then they say: if you ask your Father for the Holy Spirit He won't give you a devil, if you ask a fish you get no stone. But if there's mixture and no testing in a place and everyone can just lay hands on everyone (you have no idea how their life is, sometimes even witches creep in, hey ppl lets all lay hands on each other, great), then ppl can even get demonic tongues or they want to fit in and make it up. I believe God can fill ppl w joy and that He gives tongues, but not that everything just goes.

 

[tango]

Since this is not nearly as well known as "Speaking in Tongues", you might benefit from reading the information below before commenting....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_laughter

https://www.gotquestions.org/holy-laughter.html



Here's a video....


Have you heard of this? Seen this? Done this?

What do you make of this?

This happens in close association with "Tongues". Is it related? Similar? Why/why not?

Is this a "Gift of the Holy Spirit" or something else?

How might your congregation respond to such as a part of your worship?



- Josiah

I don't see any Scriptural precedent for it or anything quite like it. The only time I've seen it was on a video that featured Rodney Howard-Browne. It disturbed me so badly I couldn't even stand to stay in the room for more than a few minutes, so I left and went to the main reception area. I still felt badly disturbed so I left the building completely.

I fully realise my own sensations are far from a universal theology but personally I don't want anything to do with it, and I don't want anything to do with Rodney Howard-Browne either. For the record (in case it's not already clear from my other posts) I have no issue with tongues, with prophecies, with miracles. I have major issues with this.


From what I have seen of it my view is that it's nothing to do with the Holy Spirit at all - I saw nothing that gave any glory to God at all, just people falling around rendered more or less incapable of any form of useful function while attention focused on the presenter.

 

[Josiah]

It's certainly not an experience I've witnessed or know much about..... But it's close association with Tongues has made me WONDER (I choose that word deliberately) if MAYBE (I choose that word deliberately) Holy Laughter and Tongues aren't - essentially - the same thing, just slightly different in manifestation? One can opinion that both are divine gifts or.... not. I think both CAN be a "benefit" to the one doing it but I fail to see how either blesses the church. Just thoughts. It was the other thread on Tongues that caused me to think of this and create this thread.....

 

[tango]

It's certainly not an experience I've witnessed or know much about..... But it's close association with Tongues has made me WONDER (I choose that word deliberately) if MAYBE (I choose that word deliberately) Holy Laughter and Tongues aren't - essentially - the same thing, just slightly different in manifestation? One can opinion that both are divine gifts or.... not. I think both CAN be a "benefit" to the one doing it but I fail to see how either blesses the church. Just thoughts. It was the other thread on Tongues that caused me to think of this and create this thread.....

I suspect the main reason for any association with tongues (they aren't two things I would personally associate, for the record) is that the "holy laughter" is typically associated with the fringes of the uberpentecostal and hypercharismatic churches that are also very big on tongues.

 

[Albion]

I suspect the main reason for any association with tongues (they aren't two things I would personally associate, for the record) is that the "holy laughter" is typically associated with the fringes of the uberpentecostal and hypercharismatic churches that are also very big on tongues.

They are associated with such churches, it's true, but I think Josiah's point is correct.

It's the similarity between the two phenomena themselves which matters more (and is what he was emphasizing, I believe).

 

[Imalive]

It's certainly not an experience I've witnessed or know much about..... But it's close association with Tongues has made me WONDER (I choose that word deliberately) if MAYBE (I choose that word deliberately) Holy Laughter and Tongues aren't - essentially - the same thing, just slightly different in manifestation? One can opinion that both are divine gifts or.... not. I think both CAN be a "benefit" to the one doing it but I fail to see how either blesses the church. Just thoughts. It was the other thread on Tongues that caused me to think of this and create this thread.....

No, they said all the time: don't speak in tongues, you have to receive. They made fun of ppl testing stuff with the Bible. I've been to Rodney here. Ppl came in and walked away angry. He said: Great, the religious are gone. Now there's room for others. He was so rude it wasn't funny. I wouldn't go to such a meeting now, no way, but if everyone would start to laugh in our church I'd think itd be fine. Noone does anymore though. Everyone has gotten too scared because of all of the weirdness.
With tongues you don't have that. Ppl spoke in tongues years before all this stuff. I've seen a church split over the Toronto stuff.

 

[hotrhymez]

i seen youtube videos of this before and always thought those dudes were crazy..but thats just my opinion. Is this stuff even biblical?

Though if it helps ya worship God then cool i guess.....not my thing bro, sorry

 

[MoreCoffee]

Is online holy-laughter possible in a text only environment?

 

[Imalive]

Is online holy-laughter possible in a text only environment?

Why not? We need some of that. But they don't have that LOL smiley here.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Why not? We need some of that. But they don't have that LOL smiley here.

I suppose one could type "hahahahahahahaha hahaha hehehe hohoho hahahaha hohohoh hahaha hehehe hehehe hahaha hohohoho ..."