Issues of the Reformation: Priesthood of All Believers

Josiah

simul justus et peccator
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jun 12, 2015
Messages
13,927
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Lutheran
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Issues of the Reformation: Priesthood of All Believers



Some background is essential….

There are two inseparable issues here: Priesthood (or ministry) and Vocation (or one’s work). The western church in Luther’s day had STRONG teachings on both, and Luther challenged both in one of the least understood aspects of the Reformation. Let’s review both, as they existed before Luther.


MINISTRY. In the Old Testament, there were two clear classes of believers – the priests and the people. The Old Testament stresses this vast difference, even with long, detailed descriptions of what priests are to wear and what “tribe” they must be from. Priests offered the sacrifices in the Temple and were key to the sacrificial system in place at that time (For Jews, all this ended in 70 AD when the Temple was destroyed; Judaism no longer has priests).

Even though Christ was the last and the “High Priest” who offered the last and final Sacrifice (on the Cross), some of this attitude carried over into the New Testament Church and developed highly. By the early Middle Ages, there were two (well, actually 3) classes of Christians, and the division was sharp. There were the lowly believers, whose “job” was mostly to listen and obey. Even the worship service increasingly omitted them. Then (WAY over on the other end of things) were the priests (they came in two classes – the Pope/Archbishops/Bishops and then the local parish priests). By virtue of the Sacrament of Ordination that the Roman Church owned and administered, they were “super” Christians with supernatural (even magical) powers and unique spiritual abilities. A bit like the priests of the Old Testament, they offered sacrifices for the people and serve as “go-betweens” between God and the regular Christians. By Luther’s day, the gulf between these was enormous.

Luther (an ordained priest) would really rock the boat on this one…. as we’ll see.


WORK. In the beginning, the Jews taught that work was essentially divine punishment (some are apt to agree on Monday morning). They pointed to after the Fall when God told Adam that he’d need to till the soil and deal with the weeds. Work certainly had a practical function (hey, we all gotta eat) but theologically, it was part of our fallen, broken world… and paradise was portrayed as the place where there is no work (“work” being a four-letter word).

The Greeks and Romans had a much more pragmatic (and less religious) view of work. They saw the world as one very big, complex machine with zillions of parts. Each one of us is a cog in that machine. And it’s critical that we do our job and do it well. This not only helps the whole thing work but ultimately helps us, too. A part of this is to know your role, your ‘part’ or job or status – and not “buck” the system (there was a class aspect to this). The Roman church pretty much combined the two, but placed more importance on class and a bit less emphasis on pain/punishment/suffering. It often cranked out as a religious embrace of the Greco-Roman philosophy.

There was a sharp distinction between two entirely different types of work/service: Secular and Sacred. Secular stuff was for the lowly and was a part of the fallen world and directed to and for people here on earth. It was necessary (that eating thing) and could be quite elevated (the king for example) but it’s still secular, worldly and temporal (not too important in the great scheme of things). On a whole other plain was the Sacred work done by monks, nuns, priests, bishops and the Pope; this was work done for God and has eternal consequence. The most lowly, simple thing done by the clergy in Sacred work far out ranked the most impressive thing done by a king.

Luther would radically disagree in a teaching often called “Vocatio.” More on that later.



+ WE are Priests +


1 Peter 2:9 proclaims, “YOU (all) are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s own people, in order that all of you may proclaim the mighty acts of him who called YOU out of darkness and into his marvelous light.” Luther said, “Whoever comes out of the water of Baptism is a consecrated priest.” In a sense, in Baptism, ALL are called to faith, community AND ministry, Called and equipped for lives of prayer, service and proclamation. ALL baptized believers are priests, ministers and missionaries…. ALL baptized believers are a royal priesthood, God’s own people…. ALL baptized believers are called to proclaim the mighty works of Jesus!

Now…. don’t throw the baby out with the bath water! The New Testament stresses the role and importance of the clergy, even stating the requirements for pastors, bishops and other clergy. Lutherans do NOT join with Mormons, Quakers and some others who deleted all this stuff from the New Testament in a passion to get rid of the clergy. No. Indeed, Luther spent most of his ministry training pastors (he was mostly a seminary professor). But the “issue” is FUNCTION, not identity. It’s not that pastors have magical or supernatural abilities, or that they are in a spiritual class all unto themselves…. It’s that they have a distinctive ministry of service. Especially in the public setting of worship, especially in the congregation, they have an important function. Luther certainly retained Ordination but this doesn’t elevate the person to some superior class and infuse him with special spiritual (even magical) powers, it means he is now in a God-established office in the church – with all the rights, responsibilities and privileges involved in the performance of that ministry. Pastors (and other clergy) – by virtue of their Office - are worthy of great respect but they are not a special class of believers (and can’t do magic).

Lutherans strongly reject the “anti-clericalism” and “democratic egalitarianism” found say among Mormons, Quakers and some forms of Protestantism. Only bad comes from deleting so much of the New Testament that teaches and establishes the Office of Pastor, and only bad from driving a wedge between pastors and people. Lutherans not only fully retain the Office of Pastor but hold such in great esteem. WE are ALL ministers of Jesus…. simply in different roles (and thus we are not all pastors; all pastors are ministers/priests but not all ministers/priests are pastors). We are ALL equal brothers and sisters in Christ, equally His own people, here to serve God and each other in our various roles.

Similarly, Lutherans see this as a corporate, community, “team” thing. While most Protestants call this “the priesthood of the believer,” Lutherans reject that, it’s “the priesthood of ALL believers!” We reject the individualism so rapid in much of modern Protestantism, the “God and ME” emphasis (Lutheran proverb: “It’s not Jesus and me but Jesus and we”). Lutherans reject the ‘private judgement, private interpretation, private faith’ abuse sadly found in some Christian circles. It’s not a matter of some isolated individual person (or denomination) helping self but rather the whole community of believers united in faith and love serving and working and growing together especially through the local congregation. The Priesthood of All Believers is a team thing, a corporate thing.

The Priesthood of All Believers is not about me being special or me being my OWN priest….. it’s about all of us together being in service to others. We are ministers NOT for our own sake or so we can bless ourselves or by-pass the church and the pastor, it’s so we can SERVE one another with the gifts of the Spirit and the promises of the Gospel along with all God’s people. We can pray for our neighbor….. We can serve our neighbor…. We can strengthen our neighbor with the Gospel of God’s love and salvation…. We can forgive our neighbor who comes with a heavy-heart. It is the antithesis of self pointing to self, self serving self, self circumventing the church. Like Christ, the High Priest, we are to empty ourselves and take the form of a servant for others. Luther quoted Philippians 2:5-11.

There were many immediate practical implications. For example, Luther encouraged the laity to be involved in worship (not just quietly sitting there listening to the priest, cantor and choir do their thing…. in Latin), and changed the language of the worship service from Latin to whatever language the laity actually use (and understood). Luther encouraged all to sing (and wrote a lot of hymns himself). Even Luther’s claim that pastors may marry flows from this concept. He encouraged ALL to pray for each other, ALL to minister to their neighbors, ALL to proclaim the Gospel to unbelievers and to encourage the weak believers, ALL to forgive those who come to them with repentance and faith.


... continues in next post....
 

Josiah

simul justus et peccator
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jun 12, 2015
Messages
13,927
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Lutheran
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
... continued from above....



+ WE are God’s Servants +

In Matthew 25:40, Jesus proclaims, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ In Colossians 3:23-24, we read, “Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not only for men, knowing that you are serving the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Luther steadfastly rejected the sharp “secular vs. sacred” distinction of work/service/ministry so prevalent in the world into which he was born. Luther looked not to after the Fall (when God made that weed comment) but to before the Fall when God appointed Adam and Eve to care for God’s garden, caretakers of God’s Creation. ALL service done from faith and love is ministry! ALL we do for others in loving, faithful service is sacred – indeed, also a service to God! The housewife serves God as she feeds her (um, God’s) children just as the priest serves God as he teaches God’s Word to God’s children. The distinction is not one of rank but of function.

This was not a demotion of ministry in the church, it was a promotion of ministry in the family, community and world. Luther had at least as high a view of churchy service as did the Roman Church of his day, it’s just he saw ALL service done out of faith and love as equally ministry. Our ministry together is one of service to and for each other; how we do that depends on the opportunities God has set before us and the gifts God has given to us, our “vocatio” as Luther put it (“Vocatio” is Latin for Calling).

Thus, in Lutheranism, we don’t limit one’s Calling from God to just some high office in the church. Nope. We ALL have a Divine Call (in fact, a lot of them!). Our vocatio may be as a husband, a father and grandfather, a plumber, a citizen, a neighbor, a church member… most of us have a whole lot of vocatios (dozens if not hundreds) – situations and opportunities (indeed, CALLINGS from God Himself) that God has placed before us that allow us to be His hands, His heart, His servants for His people…. Blessed to be a blessing. All this is ministry (the word simply means “service”). And all this is for Jesus. Ministry isn’t divine punishment or some mechanical cog in a machine…. Ministry is the privilege of serving God by serving His children: in the church, in the home, in the community.

Yes, in this fallen/broken world, our work (ministry/service/vocation) will encounter problems, suffering and even pain (thus the “weed” comment after the fall), just as Jesus’ vocatio meant the Cross. But that doesn’t diminish the holiness of the work. Remember: although He doesn’t have to, God typically works through means. God provides food for His children through farmers and ranchers, truck drivers and grocery clerks. God provides healing through doctors and nurses and pharmacists. God provides for peace through wise rulers and police and the military. Get it? It’s GOD’S work…. done by God’s people…. for God’s people…via their vocatio. All of it is serving God. All of it is Sacred. All of it is a divine Calling. Just different functions. And beware of the distinctions we make (say by our various payments for such work)… have the trash man stop coming to your home and you’ll soon learn how important his work really is. And while our vocatio often involves difficulties (because of the Fall and sin), this isn’t all bad; it encourages us to actively serve (few have the opportunity to be lazy, self-absorbed, self-serving bums – although we all probably know a few); the reality forces us to work (perhaps long, hard work). And work is good – as it flows from faith and love, as it serves others and thus God. And the end of the work day, say “This I’ve done for others and thus God.” Then go home and enjoy what others and thus God have done for you.



Comments?



- Josiah



.
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,206
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
"the priesthood of Christians" was not a reformation issue. The real issue was "Protestant denial of sacrificial priesthood in Christianity"
 

NewCreation435

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
5,045
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
I have heard the priesthood of the believer taught in both Baptist and Methodist churches I have attended. A verse that comes to mind is Ephesians 2:10. "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." The emphasis there being that even our good works were prepared ahead of time for us by God. They not only give us work to do, but help us to stay in the path that God wants us to walk in.

And of course 1 Corinthians 13 teaches us that the primary motivator for that path is love, love of God and love of others.
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,206
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Israel was a nation of priests.
 

atpollard

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 6, 2017
Messages
2,573
Location
Florida
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Baptist
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Israel was a nation of priests.
Could you provide a verse, because not everyone in Israel was a decendent of Aaron. All were not even Levites. I seem to remember a LOT of rules about Priests and the temple in the OT.
 

atpollard

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 6, 2017
Messages
2,573
Location
Florida
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Baptist
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
"the priesthood of Christians" was not a reformation issue. The real issue was "Protestant denial of sacrificial priesthood in Christianity"
Could you define "sacrificial priesthood"?
I assume you do not mean the human sacrifice of Priests ... because I am opposed to that. :bishop1:
 

MoreCoffee

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jul 13, 2015
Messages
19,206
Location
Western Australia
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Catholic
Political Affiliation
Moderate
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Could you define "sacrificial priesthood"?
I assume you do not mean the human sacrifice of Priests ... because I am opposed to that. :bishop1:

I too am opposed to human sacrifice (Christ alone excepted).

V. The Sacramental Sacrifice Thanksgiving, Memorial, Presence

1356 If from the beginning Christians have celebrated the Eucharist and in a form whose substance has not changed despite the great diversity of times and liturgies, it is because we know ourselves to be bound by the command the Lord gave on the eve of his Passion: "Do this in remembrance of me."[SUP]181[/SUP]

1357 We carry out this command of the Lord by celebrating the memorial of his sacrifice. In so doing, we offer to the Father what he has himself given us: the gifts of his creation, bread and wine which, by the power of the Holy Spirit and by the words of Christ, have become the body and blood of Christ. Christ is thus really and mysteriously made present.

1358 We must therefore consider the Eucharist as:
- thanksgiving and praise to the Father;
- the sacrificial memorial of Christ and his Body;
- the presence of Christ by the power of his word and of his Spirit.

Thanksgiving and praise to the Father

1359 The Eucharist, the sacrament of our salvation accomplished by Christ on the cross, is also a sacrifice of praise in thanksgiving for the work of creation. In the Eucharistic sacrifice the whole of creation loved by God is presented to the Father through the death and the Resurrection of Christ. Through Christ the Church can offer the sacrifice of praise in thanksgiving for all that God has made good, beautiful, and just in creation and in humanity.

1360 The Eucharist is a sacrifice of thanksgiving to the Father, a blessing by which the Church expresses her gratitude to God for all his benefits, for all that he has accomplished through creation, redemption, and sanctification. Eucharist means first of all "thanksgiving."

1361 The Eucharist is also the sacrifice of praise by which the Church sings the glory of God in the name of all creation. This sacrifice of praise is possible only through Christ: he unites the faithful to his person, to his praise, and to his intercession, so that the sacrifice of praise to the Father is offered through Christ and with him, to be accepted in him.

The sacrificial memorial of Christ and of his Body, the Church

1362 The Eucharist is the memorial of Christ's Passover, the making present and the sacramental offering of his unique sacrifice, in the liturgy of the Church which is his Body. In all the Eucharistic Prayers we find after the words of institution a prayer called the anamnesis or memorial.

1363 In the sense of Sacred Scripture the memorial is not merely the recollection of past events but the proclamation of the mighty works wrought by God for men.[SUP]182[/SUP] In the liturgical celebration of these events, they become in a certain way present and real. This is how Israel understands its liberation from Egypt: every time Passover is celebrated, the Exodus events are made present to the memory of believers so that they may conform their lives to them.

1364 In the New Testament, the memorial takes on new meaning. When the Church celebrates the Eucharist, she commemorates Christ's Passover, and it is made present the sacrifice Christ offered once for all on the cross remains ever present.[SUP]183[/SUP] "As often as the sacrifice of the Cross by which 'Christ our Pasch has been sacrificed' is celebrated on the altar, the work of our redemption is carried out."[SUP]184[/SUP]

1365 Because it is the memorial of Christ's Passover, the Eucharist is also a sacrifice. the sacrificial character of the Eucharist is manifested in the very words of institution: "This is my body which is given for you" and "This cup which is poured out for you is the New Covenant in my blood."[SUP]185[/SUP] In the Eucharist Christ gives us the very body which he gave up for us on the cross, the very blood which he "poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."[SUP]186[/SUP]

1366 The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross, because it is its memorial and because it applies its fruit:

[Christ], our Lord and God, was once and for all to offer himself to God the Father by his death on the altar of the cross, to accomplish there an everlasting redemption. But because his priesthood was not to end with his death, at the Last Supper "on the night when he was betrayed," [he wanted] to leave to his beloved spouse the Church a visible sacrifice (as the nature of man demands) by which the bloody sacrifice which he was to accomplish once for all on the cross would be re-presented, its memory perpetuated until the end of the world, and its salutary power be applied to the forgiveness of the sins we daily commit.[SUP]187[/SUP]​

1367 The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: "The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different." "In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner."[SUP]188[/SUP]

1368 The Eucharist is also the sacrifice of the Church. the Church which is the Body of Christ participates in the offering of her Head. With him, she herself is offered whole and entire. She unites herself to his intercession with the Father for all men. In the Eucharist the sacrifice of Christ becomes also the sacrifice of the members of his Body. the lives of the faithful, their praise, sufferings, prayer, and work, are united with those of Christ and with his total offering, and so acquire a new value. Christ's sacrifice present on the altar makes it possible for all generations of Christians to be united with his offering.

...
...

1381 "That in this sacrament are the true Body of Christ and his true Blood is something that 'cannot be apprehended by the senses,' says St. Thomas, 'but only by faith, which relies on divine authority.' For this reason, in a commentary on Luke 22:19 ('This is my body which is given for you.'), St. Cyril says: 'Do not doubt whether this is true, but rather receive the words of the Savior in faith, for since he is the truth, he cannot lie.'"[SUP]210[/SUP]

Godhead here in hiding, whom I do adore

Masked by these bare shadows, shape and nothing more,

See, Lord, at thy service low lies here a heart

Lost, all lost in wonder at the God thou art.


Seeing, touching, tasting are in thee deceived;
How says trusty hearing? that shall be believed;
What God's Son has told me, take for truth I do;
Truth himself speaks truly or there's nothing true.211
181 ⇒ 1 Cor 11:24-25.
182 Cf. ⇒ Ex 13:3.
183 Cf. ⇒ Heb 7:25-27.
184 LG 3; cf. ⇒ 1 Cor 5:7.
185 ⇒ Lk 22:19-20.
186 ⇒ Mt 26:28.
187 Council of Trent (1562): DS 1740; cf. ⇒ 1 Cor 11:23; ⇒ Heb 7:24, ⇒ 27.
188 Council of Trent (1562): DS 1743; cf. ⇒ Heb 9:14, ⇒ 27.
...
210 St. Thomas Aquinas, STh III, 75, 1; cf. Paul VI, MF 18; St. Cyril of
Alexandria, In Luc. 22, 19: PG 72, 912; cf. Paul VI, MF 18.
211 St. Thomas Aquinas (attr.), Adoro te devote; tr. Gerard Manley
Hopkins.​
 

Albion

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Sep 1, 2017
Messages
7,760
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Anglican
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
The issue here, as I understand it, is the scriptural concept of the priesthood of all believers. That is to say, it's not about anyone allegedly re-sacrificing Christ upon the altar.

Because of the Reformation and its emphasis upon re-establishing the principle, many people suppose that the idea was new at that time, yet the concept of the priesthood of all believers is as old as the church itself and is to be found even among churches, both East and West, that have bishops in Apostolic Succession.
 
Last edited:

TurtleHare

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 29, 2015
Messages
1,057
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
"the priesthood of Christians" was not a reformation issue. The real issue was "Protestant denial of sacrificial priesthood in Christianity"

It was Luther's denial of that sacrificial priesthood that gave way to seeing biblical truth of the priesthood of all believers and those two things aren't separated but one follows the other accordingly, don't you see it?
 

Josiah

simul justus et peccator
Valued Contributor
Joined
Jun 12, 2015
Messages
13,927
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Lutheran
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Of course, the priesthood of all believers was so radically offensive to the power brokers in the RC Denomination because it undermines the very basis of their powering lordship over other Christians, their special and unique (even magical) powers and their necessity as intermediaries and "brokers" between God and those lowly, ordinary, limited, pur Christians.
 
Top Bottom